2024 NBA Playoffs Round 1 Game 2: (5) Orlando Magic at (4) Cleveland Cavaliers - Cavs up 1-0

[Bakomagic]

For the series...

Isaac 4/15 FG
Cole 0/11 FG
Carter 2/10 FG
Ingles 1/4 FG
Fultz 0/4 FG

Damn, this is the real issue, people have their agendas and look to blame other things.

We won this year with our depth not talent. Usually young players and bench players play better at home, hopefully we find a way to protect home court!

[fateis007]

Man, I am pretty suprised how much reaching is going on here to tackle any shade to Mosley. We literally havent played one good quarter, havent had the lead once, and have guys coming off the bench with 0-2 points in both games combined.

It would be ENTIRELY different if we didn't look absolutely dreadful top to bottom, and were just being outclassed. But we look like total **** and I have seen enough to try something new, like put 2 guys we had success with into the game.

96 minutes of this trash is more then enough to see Mosley is **** clueless.

Your schtick is tiring.

It's odd is all. That we can play this bad, and somehow just want to entirely blame the players and not the ecosystem created for them. It's like a total chicken or the egg issue. Are coaches really that infallible, that they don't even get blame when they can barely put together a plan that generates 80 points? My god, im not even sure why some of them make 10's of millions if im sitting here listening to some of you.

Yea, Paolo struggled, everyone is struggling. But this has been total hot garbage, and not just anyone's, but Coach Mosleys plan. He is literally drawing up their plays.

[Knightro]

6 turnovers for Paolo, 6 for Franz. Franz 5 for 17. Isaac useless, Cole useless, Wendell can't shoot, Fultz unplayable, Ingles underwhelming.

Only lost by 10 and outscored them the final 3 quarters.

*shrug*

This is why I think it’s a winnable series. There are some things that we should be able to clean up. Figuring out how to handle Allen and Mobley on the boards will make a huge difference. Having some guys hit some shots will make a huge difference.

I’m hoping home court gives them the confidence to close some of those margins.

The Cavs could also shoot the ball better/closer to their average and just blow the Magic right off the court too.

[Black and Blue]

For the series...

Isaac 4/15 FG
Cole 0/11 FG
Carter 2/10 FG
Ingles 1/4 FG
Fultz 0/4 FG

Even by lackluster supporting cast standards…that is downright impressive.

I can forgive some of the play due to people being young and being in their first playoffs, but Mosely has literally no one on the roster to turn to for help in this series. I think Coach is going to put some pressure on the front office to remake this roster to avoid this situation.

[RookieStar]

Anyway, taking another break from the game thread. Even though I'm retiring as mod, I would definitely get banned.

Let's just say our fans are not the brightest bunch.

You are retiring SOUL?

Also... look at the bright sode, its when we get the idiotic trollish fans back is when you know our team is good.

When we are struggling they dont bother to show up. Lol

[ogmagicfan]

Man, I am pretty suprised how much reaching is going on here to tackle any shade to Mosley. We literally havent played one good quarter, havent had the lead once, and have guys coming off the bench with 0-2 points in both games combined.

It would be ENTIRELY different if we didn't look absolutely dreadful top to bottom, and were just being outclassed. But we look like total **** the ENTIRE TIME and I have seen enough to try something new, like put 2 guys we had success with into the game.

96 minutes of this trash is more then enough to see Mosley is **** clueless.

I'm understanding that theres a fundemental misunderstanding in what coaches influence on the game is

To you, & handful of other posters, coaches who are good/great make their team win, regardless of circumstances/personnel.

Thats just outright ridiculous. You're simultaneously overestimating the impact of coaches and underestimating players impact on outcomes of games.

[RookieStar]

Carter 1-6 from three, Jonathan Isaac 1-7.

This can’t be the plan

Nope but ita what the Cavs defense are giving us.

What’s most annoying is that they’re more willing 3pt shooters than either Harris or Cole or Ingles who are the guys we want to see launching more. They all get looks, they’re just passing them up. Harris developed the world’s slowest gather and lift tonight for some reason.

Harris is gun shy and Cole/Jingles wants to show the world their playmaking and dribbling abilities rather than the boring chuck 3s

[Howard Mass]

Back in 1997, The Magic had a bad first two games in Miami.

Then, Darrell Armstrong was put n and Penny Hardaway just took over.

Things looked bleak then down 2-0 and The Magic almost won that series.

The bad offensive starts are hurting this team but the offensive setup is pretty dreadful and this team misses what Markelle Fultz previously brought to them. Unfortunately, some injuries and his shot has regressed badly to the point that TOS he has might be back even worse than it was.

They need someone who can run the offense and not constantly have the forwards bringing up the ball.

I would really like to see Anthony Black get a shot here to help with this and some other players to give this team a spark.

It doesn't look good but it's far from over.

[pepe1991]

6 turnovers for Paolo, 6 for Franz. Franz 5 for 17. Isaac useless, Cole useless, Wendell can't shoot, Fultz unplayable, Ingles underwhelming.

Only lost by 10 and outscored them the final 3 quarters.

*shrug*

This is why I think it’s a winnable series. There are some things that we should be able to clean up. Figuring out how to handle Allen and Mobley on the boards will make a huge difference. Having some guys hit some shots will make a huge difference.

I’m hoping home court gives them the confidence to close some of those margins.

The Cavs could also shoot the ball better/closer to their average and just blow the Magic right off the court too.

Cavs were up by 20 in both games, lets not pretend game 1 nor game 2 were all that close.

In game 1 Cavs missed 15 three point shots in a row and still held nice lead, in this game we went on 13-0 run in 4th quater, yet Cavs were still up by 9 with 3 min to play.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Don’t worry guys. Jeff Weltman is totally comfortable with just bringing back everyone.

Nah they’re not that dense.

Weltman quite literally went on record just 6 days ago saying he was comfortable running it back next season.

"We’re gonna slow simmer it and continue to invest in the players we have on our roster. Grow and develop them. We’ll always be opportunistic and seeking out the next ways to improve the team and if we can take a leap, we will. But I have no problem in doubling down on these guys right now. It’s kind of like what we committed to early on."

Was his exact quote.

Hopefully these past two games changed his opinion.

[SOUL]

Yea, Paolo struggled, everyone is struggling. But this has been total hot garbage, and not just anyone's, but Coach Mosleys.

The criticism is palatable when it's spread around evenly. I don't even like Fultz or WCJ as players compared to other guys and yet they are clearly not the SINGULAR reason we lose games. There is a lot babying of our core players when it comes to taking ownership of responsibility. Some people don't talk about the front office at all and go straight to coaching. If you've done that, I've missed it.

Hell, even I know our offense is **** and so when the playoffs crank up the defensive pressure and try to exploit a team full of bad shooters, zero volume shooters, and no real point guards, my question is what sort of magic (no pun intended) can coaches conjure to fix that issue?

If I see way better coaches than Mose struggle with bad offenses, then I will rightfully criticize him when I feel like we have good offensive pieces. Just like I didn't criticize young players/rookies sucking until we had actual expectations or I saw them be consistent enough to have expectations.

[Rainwater]

Yeah, I am done with these takes. I loved the fight at the end with Franz and Paolo. Future looks bright if the right moves are made. Have fun guys, going to watch the lakers game.

[RookieStar]

Don’t worry guys. Jeff Weltman is totally comfortable with just bringing back everyone.

Nah they’re not that dense.

Weltman quite literally went on record just 6 days ago saying he was comfortable running it back next season.

"We’re gonna slow simmer it and continue to invest in the players we have on our roster. Grow and develop them. We’ll always be opportunistic and seeking out the next ways to improve the team and if we can take a leap, we will. But I have no problem in doubling down on these guys right now. It’s kind of like what we committed to early on."

Was his exact quote.

Who was that GM of ours who did exactly the opposite of what he says on the media?

Like he said something like our guys gonna grow and win together and next day 2 guys are emptying their locker room.

[Bensational]

6 turnovers for Paolo, 6 for Franz. Franz 5 for 17. Isaac useless, Cole useless, Wendell can't shoot, Fultz unplayable, Ingles underwhelming.

Only lost by 10 and outscored them the final 3 quarters.

*shrug*

This is why I think it’s a winnable series. There are some things that we should be able to clean up. Figuring out how to handle Allen and Mobley on the boards will make a huge difference. Having some guys hit some shots will make a huge difference.

I’m hoping home court gives them the confidence to close some of those margins.

The Cavs could also shoot the ball better/closer to their average and just blow the Magic right off the court too.

Could do, momentum swings both ways. It’s just a matter of who’s got the answer for the opposing defense in a clash of two strong defensive teams.

[SOUL]

Anyway, taking another break from the game thread. Even though I'm retiring as mod, I would definitely get banned.

Let's just say our fans are not the brightest bunch.

You are retiring SOUL?

Also... look at the bright sode, its when we get the idiotic trollish fans back is when you know our team is good.

When we are struggling they dont bother to show up. Lol

I retired in 2019 but came back for a playoff series and never un-retired. I need a year or two off because I'm getting busier, but I'll still be active.

[ChosenSavior]

Need to dial up the intensity in Orlando. Franz was terrible in the 2nd half but Paolo was terrible on both ends. I hated his body language in this game. These two have to raise their level of play, otherwise we will continue to score in the 80s.

Coach Mose made some changes in the 2nd half that I liked. There is zero reason to play Fultz and Mose made sure of that by not playing him. Cole HAS to play better and establish a scoring presence to elevate our bench production. Ultimately our main rotation guys especially P5 and Franz have to play better.

Series isn't over yet.

[Message Boar]

The series doesn’t start until a home team loses. Remember that.

Well it's about to be over when a home team loses, too.

[Optimus_Steel]

Tough lesson but needed lesson, you take your licks and get better

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It is the way of the NBA unless something crazy happens

[ibraheim718]

Nah they’re not that dense.

Weltman quite literally went on record just 6 days ago saying he was comfortable running it back next season.

"We’re gonna slow simmer it and continue to invest in the players we have on our roster. Grow and develop them. We’ll always be opportunistic and seeking out the next ways to improve the team and if we can take a leap, we will. But I have no problem in doubling down on these guys right now. It’s kind of like what we committed to early on."

Was his exact quote.

Who was that GM of ours who did exactly the opposite of what he says on the media?

Like he said something like our guys gonna grow and win together and next day 2 guys are emptying their locker room.

I wouldn’t read too much into what they tell the media.

Who is under contract next year?

[Darth Magic]

What is frustrating to me is that the issues we are having could have been addressed MULTIPLE TIMES! We have the assets to do it! We didn't even need to make major changes. There were players we could have gotten to improve our guard play and shooting THIS YEAR and we did nothing!