blind prophet wrote:Any other Kings fans pretty sure Monk is gone?
Spurs. That’s a bigger threat than the Magic. If Pop is willing to pay him and give him the starting spot…he’s gone. Money, starting and throwing lobs to VW is too much to turn down.
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blind prophet wrote:Any other Kings fans pretty sure Monk is gone?
Godaddycurse wrote:Kings out: Duarte, Vezenkov, Mitchell, 13
Kings in: Caruso, DFS
Brooklyn out: DFS
Brooklyn in: Duarte, Mitchell, POR 2025-2028 LP 1st
Chicago out: Caruso, POR 2025-2028 LP 1st
Chicago in: Vezenkov, 13
Why for Brooklyn: get a 1st for DFS
Why for Chicago: combine lesser assets for another lotto pick
Why for Kings: upgrade perimeter D
Godaddycurse wrote:Kings out: Duarte, Vezenkov, Mitchell, 13
Kings in: Caruso, DFS
Brooklyn out: DFS
Brooklyn in: Duarte, Mitchell, POR 2025-2028 LP 1st
Chicago out: Caruso, POR 2025-2028 LP 1st
Chicago in: Vezenkov, 13
Why for Brooklyn: get a 1st for DFS
Why for Chicago: combine lesser assets for another lotto pick
Why for Kings: upgrade perimeter D
pillwenney wrote:OxAndFox wrote:
That is fair. And so are all the points made about him and I do agree at some point you need to make a decision on guys your going after.
I just believe if you're looking for Jerami Grant to come in and be a defender (again, he hasn't been that since his year in Denver and even then he didn't play good defense in the POs - like meaningful games people keep harping on) and take a dip in scoring IMO two things are going to happen. Jerami Grant will be unhappy with his offensive role and his trade value will plummet so you won't get value back. He wasn't happy in Denver with his offensive role and he won't be here unless he is the #2 behind Fox and the Kings will regret that. There might be better options that shake loose after the POs and when the lottery balls fall where they may.
IMO if Grant finds his way onto the Kings they are on the road to having everyone paid a tier above their output.
The positive I would say about Grant to the Kings if it did happen would be at least it's not Kuzma.
This is certainly all within the realm of possibility. But you can find negative possible outcome for any scenario. I just don't think you can really let perfect be the enemy what is, regardless, a very clear upgrade.
OxAndFox wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:Kings out: Duarte, Vezenkov, Mitchell, 13
Kings in: Caruso, DFS
Brooklyn out: DFS
Brooklyn in: Duarte, Mitchell, POR 2025-2028 LP 1st
Chicago out: Caruso, POR 2025-2028 LP 1st
Chicago in: Vezenkov, 13
Why for Brooklyn: get a 1st for DFS
Why for Chicago: combine lesser assets for another lotto pick
Why for Kings: upgrade perimeter D
Yep. Would definitely do this. Would completely change the Kings' defensive ability and would actually become a top 10 defense IMO.
Use Barnes/Huerter for 1 more defensive upgrade big that can play the 4/5 and I think you've accomplished the goals Sacramento requires.
NYG wrote:The problem is the market for PF doesn't have anyone worth 13
It's DFS, John Collins, Grant or Kuzma and none are worth 13
Edrees wrote:JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all
I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
NYG wrote:The problem is the market for PF doesn't have anyone worth 13
It's DFS, John Collins, Grant or Kuzma and none are worth 13
JRoy wrote:Are you responding to yourself?
pillwenney wrote:NYG wrote:The problem is the market for PF doesn't have anyone worth 13
It's DFS, John Collins, Grant or Kuzma and none are worth 13
There are things to do to even out the value--at least with Grant, which is who I'm most concerned with.
BlazersBroncos wrote:I like the idea of adding Duop into the discussed Grant for 13 deal. Think he is an improvement at backup C over McGee and Len.
Grant + Duop + 33 for Huerter + Duarte + 13 (PDX redirects Huerter to a 3rd team - IMO SAS for Graham and some SRP)
G - Fox / Monk / Mitchell
G - Ellis / Monk / Jones
F - Murray / Barnes / Vezenkov
F - Grant / Lyles / Barnes
C - Sabonis / Duop / Len or McGee
+ 33
SNPA wrote:I go back to what I wrote in the McNair thread.
He has three options and he must pick one and execute it successfully by no later than the deadline (should be this summer) and if he doesn’t his seat will be hot as hell if Sac misses the playoffs next year. Those three options are:
-Aquire an impactful PF that fits with Sabonis (keep Keegan)*
-Aquire a third star (can move Keegan)
-Trade one of Fox/Sabonis to create a more modern wing focused team
He has to do one of these.
*If Monk leaves just getting the PF will not be sufficient, he would have to get another playmaker too.
NYG wrote:SNPA wrote:I go back to what I wrote in the McNair thread.
He has three options and he must pick one and execute it successfully by no later than the deadline (should be this summer) and if he doesn’t his seat will be hot as hell if Sac misses the playoffs next year. Those three options are:
-Aquire an impactful PF that fits with Sabonis (keep Keegan)*
-Aquire a third star (can move Keegan)
-Trade one of Fox/Sabonis to create a more modern wing focused team
He has to do one of these.
*If Monk leaves just getting the PF will not be sufficient, he would have to get another playmaker too.
If Monk leaves, who are a few MLE-quality free agents they could sign?
NYG wrote:The problem is the market for PF doesn't have anyone worth 13
It's DFS, John Collins, Grant or Kuzma and none are worth 13
Sactowndog wrote:NYG wrote:The problem is the market for PF doesn't have anyone worth 13
It's DFS, John Collins, Grant or Kuzma and none are worth 13
Exactly. Not to mention under the new system we need cost controlled Rookie deals and we traded away last years pick, we will lose next years pick. For cap management purposes no way I’m trading 13 and certainly not for any of those guys.
Sactowndog wrote:NYG wrote:The problem is the market for PF doesn't have anyone worth 13
It's DFS, John Collins, Grant or Kuzma and none are worth 13
Exactly. Not to mention under the new system we need cost controlled Rookie deals and we traded away last years pick, we will lose next years pick. For cap management purposes no way I’m trading 13 and certainly not for any of those guys.
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