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Re: Heat Scorch C's From 3! Game 2 Loss vs MIA 4/24 (Series tied 1-1) 

Post#181 » by fallguy » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:29 am

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Our players think it's also about luck. We are ****.

Jimmy trolling us already. Heat just won't go away.


We'll win this series. But we could definitely lose next round.

That's you joking or that's just a dumb post.

No way Orlando or Cleveland will beat the Celtics 4 times in a playoff series.


It's unlikely. But definitely possible (with Cleveland). Especially now that we see Joe is exactly as bad as he was last season. And our players don't seem any tougher for all their experience.
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Post#182 » by Setshot33 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:29 am

GrandTheftRondo wrote:Most infuriating part about the loss for me is Tatum and Brown pretty much did their jobs.

The others were horrific.

I’m not ready to make all sorts of absurd calls about the team like some in here though.

Want to see how they adjust in the next game. Still very confident in my assertion that this team is built different to previous years.

Did their jobs?

Superstars are supposed to take over games and impose their will and carry their team to a win.
When the game is physical and close, Tatum wilts.
Where was Brown down the stretch when it mattered?

This board is funny.I believe everyone here sees it, but a lot of folks don't want to admit it.
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Post#183 » by The Corey's » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:30 am

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Fierce1 wrote:It's all about the numbers.

If the Celtic owners are making money from ticket sales and whatever other things they are selling, the owners will be content to let this ride out.

Money making is the 1st priority.

Winning championships just comes in 2nd when it comes to professional sports.


Are you ever going to hold the Celtics accountable or are you perfectly content with how things continue to play out?


Dude is not really a true celtic fan. He said he watches just for entertainment. That’s why he’s like this. I don’t really take him seriously.


What's entertaining about watching the Celtics make the same mistakes over and over for the last decade?

Lol.
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Post#184 » by Fierce1 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:30 am

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That's another take I can't relate to.

What are the Celtics not doing that Sam can't resolve as Joe's number 1 man?

I was told last summer he would resolve all of the issues we saw with Joe as a rookie coach.

He solved none of them.

It's a different story.

Hiring Sam in 2022 would have eliminated Joe from the picture or at best Joe would just continue as an assistant.

Joe is very stubborn.

Even Sam Cassell won't win over Joe when it comes to who's boss.



Ok.

But what has Sam done that tells you that he should he the coach? Am I missing something? I don't recall him being a head coach anywhere at any level.

Sam is just one example.

Once I heard Ime was out and will not be coach of the Celtics, I wanted Brad to hire a veteran coach.

A rookie coach just does not make sense coaching the Jays.
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Re: Heat Scorch C's From 3! Game 2 Loss vs MIA 4/24 (Series tied 1-1) 

Post#185 » by KamikazeK » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:30 am

Fierce1 wrote:
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zoyathedestroya wrote:
Read on Twitter

Our players think it's also about luck. We are ****.

Jimmy trolling us already. Heat just won't go away.


We'll win this series. But we could definitely lose next round.

That's you joking or that's just a dumb post.

No way Orlando or Cleveland will beat the Celtics 4 times in a playoff series.

Agreed, we're going to the Finals if we don't lose this series. But that's a big If because we have a clown coaching the team.
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Post#186 » by The Corey's » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:31 am

Keep in mind that Wyc lost his ever **** loving **** last year in the ECF when the Celtics went down 0-3

It's not gonna be good if this series doesn't end in 5
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Post#187 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:31 am

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If they don't win the title this year there isn't going to be no 4 year run.

It's all about the numbers.

If the Celtic owners are making money from ticket sales and whatever other things they are selling, the owners will be content to let this ride out.

Money making is the 1st priority.

Winning championships just comes in 2nd when it comes to professional sports.


Are you ever going to hold the Celtics accountable or are you perfectly content with how things continue to play out?

we have no power. otherwise, the team would have done better with differing opinions long ago. I know I'm tired though. not giving up but not feeling rah rah all the time. we keep losing games to them like we didn't see it before.
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Post#188 » by Fierce1 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:32 am

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Triple7 wrote:
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Are you ever going to hold the Celtics accountable or are you perfectly content with how things continue to play out?


Dude is not really a true celtic fan. He said he watches just for entertainment. That’s why he’s like this. I don’t really take him seriously.


What's entertaining about watching the Celtics make the same mistakes over and over for the last decade?

Lol.

Here's thing, what you're saying is true and here we are still watching the Celtics every season, every game.

The Celtics are the ones laughing at us because we're still the ones paying to watch them play every season.
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Post#189 » by The Corey's » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:32 am

Fierce1 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:It's a different story.

Hiring Sam in 2022 would have eliminated Joe from the picture or at best Joe would just continue as an assistant.

Joe is very stubborn.

Even Sam Cassell won't win over Joe when it comes to who's boss.



Ok.

But what has Sam done that tells you that he should he the coach? Am I missing something? I don't recall him being a head coach anywhere at any level.

Sam is just one example.

Once I heard Ime was out and will not be coach of the Celtics, I wanted Brad to hire a veteran coach.

A rookie coach just does not make sense coaching the Jays.


Sam would of been a rookie head coach coming from outside the organization too.

I don't blame Brad for hiring Joe in the circumstances that lead to it. I blame him for doubling and tripling down when it's clear he really is over his head.
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Post#190 » by reload141 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:33 am

fallguy wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
Read on Twitter

Our players think it's also about luck. We are ****.

Jimmy trolling us already. Heat just won't go away.


We'll win this series. But we could definitely lose next round.


I’m more confident in the next rounds up until the Finals.

Coach Spo is the best coach in the league by far.
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Post#191 » by Triple7 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:33 am

I’ve been saying this for a long time. JT needs to work on his shot making skills. He is missing too many layups. Some of them really easy ones. A little contact, and he loses control. He could have had many and1’s if not for his poor shot making skills. He doesn’t even use the backboard that well. Guys like SGA, Luka and Ant edwards are better because they have better handles, better mid range game, and ability to still make shots even with contact. JT is just too soft and finesse. He also doesn’t have the takeover mentality like most superstars have. Sorry but that’s just the reality.
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Post#192 » by Fierce1 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:33 am

Shak_Celts wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:It's all about the numbers.

If the Celtic owners are making money from ticket sales and whatever other things they are selling, the owners will be content to let this ride out.

Money making is the 1st priority.

Winning championships just comes in 2nd when it comes to professional sports.


Are you ever going to hold the Celtics accountable or are you perfectly content with how things continue to play out?

we have no power. otherwise, the team would have done better with differing opinions long ago. I know I'm tired though. not giving up but not feeling rah rah all the time. we keep losing games to them like we didn't see it before.

True.

Unless someone here is a part of the Celtic organization, none of us here has the power.

Maybe He-Man does. :lol:
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Post#193 » by The Corey's » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:34 am

Shak_Celts wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:It's all about the numbers.

If the Celtic owners are making money from ticket sales and whatever other things they are selling, the owners will be content to let this ride out.

Money making is the 1st priority.

Winning championships just comes in 2nd when it comes to professional sports.


Are you ever going to hold the Celtics accountable or are you perfectly content with how things continue to play out?

we have no power. otherwise, the team would have done better with differing opinions long ago. I know I'm tired though. not giving up but not feeling rah rah all the time. we keep losing games to them like we didn't see it before.


No one said anything about power. What are we doing here then if our takes don't matter at the club level?

I'm not even mad about today. I'm mad about what today means when they play the Nuggets.
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Post#194 » by fallguy » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:34 am

The Corey's wrote:Keep in mind that Wyc lost his ever **** loving **** last year in the ECF when the Celtics went down 0-3

It's not gonna be good if this series doesn't end in 5


Now you are a person who understands the C's. Wyc is not some cheerful friendly guy who just rolls over for his basketball ops people. He is an alpha. And Rich Gotham is a totally different animal altogether.

Wyc demanded changes last summer after we flamed out. And Wyc is far less enamored of Joe than Brad is.
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Post#195 » by GrandTheftRondo » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:34 am

Setshot33 wrote:
GrandTheftRondo wrote:Most infuriating part about the loss for me is Tatum and Brown pretty much did their jobs.

The others were horrific.

I’m not ready to make all sorts of absurd calls about the team like some in here though.

Want to see how they adjust in the next game. Still very confident in my assertion that this team is built different to previous years.

Did their jobs?

Superstars are supposed to take over games and impose their will and carry their team to a win.
When the game is physical and close, Tatum wilts.
Where was Brown down the stretch when it mattered?

This board is funny.I believe everyone here sees it, but a lot of folks don't want to admit it.
A wise man once said "Don't be afraid to see what you see".

Porzintis and Holiday show up and the team plays better d and they win fairly comfortably.

They shouldn't need a billion points from Brown and Tatum to knock off a Butler less Heat.

Tatum missed some shots in the fourth but that wasn't why we lost.

23 3s.
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Post#196 » by Fierce1 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:35 am

The Corey's wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:

Ok.

But what has Sam done that tells you that he should he the coach? Am I missing something? I don't recall him being a head coach anywhere at any level.

Sam is just one example.

Once I heard Ime was out and will not be coach of the Celtics, I wanted Brad to hire a veteran coach.

A rookie coach just does not make sense coaching the Jays.


Sam would of been a rookie head coach coming from outside the organization too.

I don't blame Brad for hiring Joe in the circumstances that lead to it. I blame him for doubling and tripling down when it's clear he really is over his head.

Like I said, not everything is Joe's fault.

Brad has a hand in this and the players are certainly more to blame than the coach.

One thing that I haven't seen from this Celtics team is intensity like what the Knicks show every game.
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Post#197 » by The Corey's » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:35 am

Fierce1 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
Dude is not really a true celtic fan. He said he watches just for entertainment. That’s why he’s like this. I don’t really take him seriously.


What's entertaining about watching the Celtics make the same mistakes over and over for the last decade?

Lol.

Here's thing, what you're saying is true and here we are still watching the Celtics every season, every game.

The Celtics are the ones laughing at us because we're still the ones paying to watch them play every season.


I watch for entertainment. I also watch because it feeds my competitive ego.

There's many reasons to watch. I'm not the positive guy, that's other posters. But I do give credit when it's due. I don't hold the party line no matter what.

That's the difference between me and some others. It's ok to say they got it wrong when they did. It's not the end of the world.
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Post#198 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:36 am

From before the series started:

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I'm not as confident with the 5 now. It was clear what Heat was doing in the 1st Q. And we let it happen for 3 more Qs.
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Post#199 » by Fierce1 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:37 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:From before the series started:

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I'm not as confident with the 5 now. It was clear what Heat was doing in the 1st Q. And we let it happen for 3 more Qs.

So for the record, you're changing your prediction to Celtics in 6 or Celtics in 7?
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Post#200 » by Ben-N1ce » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:37 am

Triple7 wrote:I’ve been saying this for a long time. JT needs to work on his shot making skills. He is missing too many layups. Some of them really easy ones. A little contact, and he loses control. He could have had many and1’s if not for his poor shot making skills. He doesn’t even use the backboard that well. Guys like SGA, Luka and Ant edwards are better because they have better handles, better mid range game, and ability to still make shots even with contact. JT is just too soft and finesse. He also doesn’t have the takeover mentality like most superstars have. Sorry but that’s just the reality.



I enjoy how he's never on the right block when I see him do his spin move baseline and score or get fouled consanty when he is there.

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