payitforward wrote:DCZards wrote:tontoz wrote:I bet the Spurs take him if he is available.
What does that have to do with who the Zards draft?
Well, if they pick before us it will affect who's still available....
OTOH, calling someone a "shrimp guard" has nothing to offer either. Nor does suggesting "we need to draft upside" -- what else would anyone draft?
Don't get me wrong -- I agree with J-Ves that there's no guarantee Sheppard is "a starter in this league." In fact there's no guarantee that anyone picked at any spot in any draft will be successful in the NBA at all! The future simply doesn't come with a guarantee of any kind.
In any case, we don't need a single "savior pick."
We have exactly 1 player on this squad whom we can maybe count on to be an above average NBA player going forward: Deni Avdija. & we have 1 kid for whom we have high hopes long term: Bilal Coulibaly.
Of course there may be a couple of surprises in the current ragtag bunch - why not? But I wouln't count on it, & the genuine information out of this season is that we are starting over. Period.
We need to come out of this draft with at least 3 promising rookies. 4 would be a lot better, but we can't come away with fewer than 3.
IMO the BANG FOR THE BUCK portion of this draft is in the 18-33 range. If we can trade back, perhaps with the Pelicans for 18 & 21, and then move up from 51... Maybe package 51 & a future 2nd, or maybe a Tyus S&T to add another pick in that range.
IDEALLY, I'd like to come away with 4 players in this tier...
Kyshawn George
Carlton Carrington
Tidjane Salaun
Yves Missi
Kel’el Ware
DaRon Holmes II
Adem Bona
Pacome Dadiet
Hunter Sallis
Jamir Watkins
Melvin Ajinca
Ryan Dunn
Ok. For example, IMO an ideal draft would come away with
Kyshawn George
Kel’el Ware
Pacome Dadiet
Hunter Sallis
2 high upside versatile wings with length, a multi-skilled big, and an athletic guard. I am telling you, That portion of this years draft is THE SWEET SPOT!
The only players I like at the top, that I view as true top 10 prospects are Stephon Castle and Cody Williams. So if we can only add 1 more pick in that 18-33 range and we come away with something like Castle, Missi, Salaun would I be happy? Yes! Or Cody + Holmes + Carrington. Yes I'd be very happy. But to me the objective should be to get as many picks in that 18-33 range as possible, including a 2 for 1 swap if we can trade down. I'd rather come away with Kyshawn George AND Missi or Carrington AND Ware than Castle, or Williams, or Sheppard or Topic or whoever.
One scenario I see that I like is if we get #1 or #2 and can deal it to the Jazz for #8, 29, 32. I'd love that! And wed still have our 51, maybe trade up from there, or use it on a draft and stash. But this rebuild, basically adding one or two good young building blocks isn't going to do it. We need an overhaul of young prospects with potential upside, we should be taking as many swings as possible, and coming out of this draft with at least 4 or 5 players.