Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 3
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Now that what top seeds do. Take care of business at home, then punch them in the face on the road.
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SuperDeluxe wrote:My gawd, this thread... Are we sure it's our players who are shrinking under pressure? Because I'm seeing a lot of shrinking here.
The mind-boggling criticism of Tatum reminds me of the exact same thing about Pierce 16-17 years ago. We old timers remember. Even with the cold hard numbers in front of them, people insist! Un-freaking-believable.
Enjoy the ride, guys and gals.
Tatum is not a Superstar bro....not tier 1 superstar at least....and only overrated by Celtics homers
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OnlyTheTruth wrote:SuperDeluxe wrote:My gawd, this thread... Are we sure it's our players who are shrinking under pressure? Because I'm seeing a lot of shrinking here.
The mind-boggling criticism of Tatum reminds me of the exact same thing about Pierce 16-17 years ago. We old timers remember. Even with the cold hard numbers in front of them, people insist! Un-freaking-believable.
Enjoy the ride, guys and gals.
Tatum is not a Superstar bro....not tier 1 superstar at least....and only overrated by Celtics homers
I never said he was a superstar. I'm just happy he's a Celtic. We could do much, much, much worse than him.
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SuperDeluxe wrote:My gawd, this thread... Are we sure it's our players who are shrinking under pressure? Because I'm seeing a lot of shrinking here.
The mind-boggling criticism of Tatum reminds me of the exact same thing about Pierce 16-17 years ago. We old timers remember. Even with the cold hard numbers in front of them, people insist! Un-freaking-believable.
Enjoy the ride, guys and gals.
Same here.
I remember those days when Paul Pierce was not even recognized by some as a superstar player.
It's also true that it's a 2-way street, one loss and some of the Celtic fans are in panic mode.
One loss and the fighting spirit goes soft?
Not sure if there's a Viagra for the fighting spirit.
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The team has one championship in 38 years. Miss me with the rah-rah **** until they nut up and get another one. I’m getting old and I’m beyond tired seeing this team choke to lesser talented ones in the playoffs. The last 2 years they did. They have the most talented team on paper this year. There was nobody close to them in the regular season. If they don’t win it this year they are a disgrace to their Celtics forebears.
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Passing of the baton. KD, Lebron, Curry, Beal, Klay, (Clips foursome), Dame (?) about to be sent home early.
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Parasite wrote:The team has one championship in 38 years. Miss me with the rah-rah **** until they nut up and get another one. I’m getting old and I’m beyond tired seeing this team choke to lesser talented ones in the playoffs. The last 2 years they did. They have the most talented team on paper this year. There was nobody close to them in the regular season. If they don’t win it this year they are a disgrace to their Celtics forebears.
I get that about the rah-rah because what you're saying is true.
It's the unreal expectations that becomes an issue.
Here's the thing, the Celtic coach is bad, according to some, the Celtics can't execute in the clutch, and Tatum is not consistent, not mentally tough, not an alpha etc.
But those same folks expect the Cs to win a championship with all those flaws.
How in the world will a team with a bad coach, can't execute in the clutch, and a flawed superstar win a championship?
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Passing of the baton. KD, Lebron, Curry, Beal, Klay, (Clips foursome), Dame (?) about to be sent home early.
Phoenix is the most embarrassing.
How in the world would a team with 3 max players exit in the 1st round?
KD with another stupid decision.
All KD had to do was tell the Nets to trade him to Boston last season and KD would've been in the finals in 2023 and most likely this year also.
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Two things Doc has been elite at past few years -- deflecting blame and throwing his own guys under the bus.
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2 words for Doc and the Bucks, Lame Time!
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Fierce1 wrote:SuperDeluxe wrote:My gawd, this thread... Are we sure it's our players who are shrinking under pressure? Because I'm seeing a lot of shrinking here.
The mind-boggling criticism of Tatum reminds me of the exact same thing about Pierce 16-17 years ago. We old timers remember. Even with the cold hard numbers in front of them, people insist! Un-freaking-believable.
Enjoy the ride, guys and gals.
Same here.
I remember those days when Paul Pierce was not even recognized by some as a superstar player.
It's also true that it's a 2-way street, one loss and some of the Celtic fans are in panic mode.
One loss and the fighting spirit goes soft?
Not sure if there's a Viagra for the fighting spirit.
Paul Pierce has more balls than JT will ever have.
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OnlyTheTruth wrote:Fierce1 wrote:SuperDeluxe wrote:My gawd, this thread... Are we sure it's our players who are shrinking under pressure? Because I'm seeing a lot of shrinking here.
The mind-boggling criticism of Tatum reminds me of the exact same thing about Pierce 16-17 years ago. We old timers remember. Even with the cold hard numbers in front of them, people insist! Un-freaking-believable.
Enjoy the ride, guys and gals.
Same here.
I remember those days when Paul Pierce was not even recognized by some as a superstar player.
It's also true that it's a 2-way street, one loss and some of the Celtic fans are in panic mode.
One loss and the fighting spirit goes soft?
Not sure if there's a Viagra for the fighting spirit.
Paul Pierce has more balls than JT will ever have.
You're preaching to the choir.
Am I not called Fierce?
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This is not really about Paul Pierce or Jayson Tatum.
I think this just an overreaction after losing to Miami, which was unexpected.
It's like some of the Celtic fans here went soft after that shocker.
And FYI, JT already has a triple-double in this year's playoffs.
Just checked and Luka has no triple-double yet.
Like I said, an overreaction to an unexpected loss.
I think this just an overreaction after losing to Miami, which was unexpected.
It's like some of the Celtic fans here went soft after that shocker.
And FYI, JT already has a triple-double in this year's playoffs.
Just checked and Luka has no triple-double yet.
Like I said, an overreaction to an unexpected loss.
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Fierce1 wrote:This is not really about Paul Pierce or Jayson Tatum.
I think this just an overreaction after losing to Miami, which was unexpected.
It's like some of the Celtic fans here went soft after that shocker.
And FYI, JT already has a triple-double in this year's playoffs.
Just checked and Luka has no triple-double yet.
Like I said, an overreaction to an unexpected loss.
If the Celtics choke, and Tatum disappears like he does under pressure then the fans will turn their back on Tatum
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OnlyTheTruth wrote:Fierce1 wrote:This is not really about Paul Pierce or Jayson Tatum.
I think this just an overreaction after losing to Miami, which was unexpected.
It's like some of the Celtic fans here went soft after that shocker.
And FYI, JT already has a triple-double in this year's playoffs.
Just checked and Luka has no triple-double yet.
Like I said, an overreaction to an unexpected loss.
If the Celtics choke, and Tatum disappears like he does under pressure then the fans will turn their back on Tatum
That's how it is in sports.
But even if the Cs exit in the playoffs this year, those same Celtic fans will tune in again next season to watch the Celtics.
It's not like if JT fails Celtic fans will stop becoming Celtic fans.
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Fierce1 wrote:OnlyTheTruth wrote:Fierce1 wrote:This is not really about Paul Pierce or Jayson Tatum.
I think this just an overreaction after losing to Miami, which was unexpected.
It's like some of the Celtic fans here went soft after that shocker.
And FYI, JT already has a triple-double in this year's playoffs.
Just checked and Luka has no triple-double yet.
Like I said, an overreaction to an unexpected loss.
If the Celtics choke, and Tatum disappears like he does under pressure then the fans will turn their back on Tatum
That's how it is in sports.
But even if the Cs exit in the playoffs this year, those same Celtic fans will tune in again next season to watch the Celtics.
It's not like if JT fails Celtic fans will stop becoming Celtic fans.
I agree with that but at the same time, its time for us to win banner 18, and if its not getting done with Tatum and Brown maybe its time to make some major changes. This is the easiest path to the finals and for them to win banner 18, but they showed during the regular season that they dont have mental toughness. Every time they faced an elite team, they got spanked.
I do believe Joe Mazzulla will be the first piece to get cut if they dont win championship.
My heart tells me they dont have what it takes to beat Denver in 7 game series...maybe even Sota
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OnlyTheTruth wrote:Fierce1 wrote:OnlyTheTruth wrote:
If the Celtics choke, and Tatum disappears like he does under pressure then the fans will turn their back on Tatum
That's how it is in sports.
But even if the Cs exit in the playoffs this year, those same Celtic fans will tune in again next season to watch the Celtics.
It's not like if JT fails Celtic fans will stop becoming Celtic fans.
I agree with that but at the same time, its time for us to win banner 18, and if its not getting done with Tatum and Brown maybe its time to make some major changes. This is the easiest path to the finals and for them to win banner 18, but they showed during the regular season that they dont have mental toughness. Every time they faced an elite team, they got spanked.
I do believe Joe Mazzulla will be the first piece to get cut if they dont win championship.
My heart tells me they dont have what it takes to beat Denver in 7 game series...maybe even Sota
Saying it's time for us to win Banner 18 doesn't mean we will win Banner 18.
We can only hope for the best.
It's beyond our control.
If the Cs lose to Denver then so be it.
There are a lot of great players who didn't win a championship and there are still 10 NBA teams that have not won a championship.
The NBA is a cycle and it won't stop.
Will the end of the world come if the Cs fail to win this year?
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OnlyTheTruth wrote:SuperDeluxe wrote:My gawd, this thread... Are we sure it's our players who are shrinking under pressure? Because I'm seeing a lot of shrinking here.
The mind-boggling criticism of Tatum reminds me of the exact same thing about Pierce 16-17 years ago. We old timers remember. Even with the cold hard numbers in front of them, people insist! Un-freaking-believable.
Enjoy the ride, guys and gals.
Tatum is not a Superstar bro....not tier 1 superstar at least....and only overrated by Celtics homers
Show some respect.
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Fierce1 wrote:This is not really about Paul Pierce or Jayson Tatum.
I think this just an overreaction after losing to Miami, which was unexpected.
It's like some of the Celtic fans here went soft after that shocker.
And FYI, JT already has a triple-double in this year's playoffs.
Just checked and Luka has no triple-double yet.
Like I said, an overreaction to an unexpected loss.
After what happened last year against the heat, all the overreactions are warranted. Unexpected? Yes of course. They are playing minus their best player and confirmed celtic killer Jimmy buckets. We should have beaten them handily. That’s why you can’t let them hang around all game. They can get hot anytime from 3, and suddenly get a big lead, and we turn cold. That’s the heat’s strategy. Keep it close, or try to get a lead, and sneak out a win in the end.
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Fierce1 wrote:OnlyTheTruth wrote:Fierce1 wrote:This is not really about Paul Pierce or Jayson Tatum.
I think this just an overreaction after losing to Miami, which was unexpected.
It's like some of the Celtic fans here went soft after that shocker.
And FYI, JT already has a triple-double in this year's playoffs.
Just checked and Luka has no triple-double yet.
Like I said, an overreaction to an unexpected loss.
If the Celtics choke, and Tatum disappears like he does under pressure then the fans will turn their back on Tatum
That's how it is in sports.
But even if the Cs exit in the playoffs this year, those same Celtic fans will tune in again next season to watch the Celtics.
It's not like if JT fails Celtic fans will stop becoming Celtic fans.
This i agree. Even if JT chokes again, we will still support him next season, hoping he turns a corner. The expectation from him will be much much lower though.