ConSarnit wrote:You’d think having seen multiple teams make the same mistake before the Suns would have learned something.
Including the team they acquired KD from.
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ConSarnit wrote:You’d think having seen multiple teams make the same mistake before the Suns would have learned something.
LAvision wrote:They made their bed.....
Dont they have no 1st round picks till 2030? And how much could KD and Booker really get in return? They are in such a bad situation.
mademan wrote:HotelVitale wrote:ConSarnit wrote:
You’d think having seen multiple teams make the same mistake before the Suns would have learned something. If you’re going to bring in a 3rd star he better not be a score first guy. The 3rd option always get marginalized as far as scoring goes and then for them to be worth anywhere near their contract they need to have supplementary skills they can fall back on. The “good” example of this is Chris Bosh on MIA who became a very good defender and as such earned the majority of his contract. Beal is the “bad” example: not a good enough playmaker for others nor can he take the tough defensive assignments. So then you’re left paying $50m to an 18ppg scorer.
What do you guys think CP and a couple swaps (most of which likely weren't swapping) could've got them? Not defending the trade by any means but I'm not sure there were that many options for that type of package. Though the later swaps (like the 2030 one) have some value and were probably worth more than package of 2nd rounders that some vets got at the deadline this year.
They also took a gamble on Beal coming back healthy and in good form, hasn't happened that well but I always hate pissing on teams for taking swings that don't work out. (Unless you're doing the same when it does work out.) Just my taste though.
Seeing what Dallas is doing with Gafford/PJ, i think Paul and those high variance swaps couldve got them. It wasnt plainly clear that these guys were undervalued on their current teams and could provide real value as supporting pieces to offensive stars, but thats what FO's get paid for, no?
Go back 6 months and im certain Hornets and Wiz fan would give up these middling role players (Washington was considered overpaid) for the chance at gold 3-4 years from now. Beal, otoh, clearly had no place on a team with KD and Booker.
He earned it, you hater. I take Booker over my Beard right now, if offered.cpower wrote:Booker is fraud, and gave him first team all NBA in 2022 is crazy.. he was not better than Curry and Ja.
cpower wrote:Godymas wrote:Hair Jordan wrote:What era? They haven’t done sh-t.
the Devin Booker era obviously, please be serious when posting
the Devin Booker era is not as impressive as the Mike Conley era Are you going to post one about him?
TeamTragic wrote:LAvision wrote:They made their bed.....
Dont they have no 1st round picks till 2030? And how much could KD and Booker really get in return? They are in such a bad situation.
Are you an idiot? Swaps don't mean you lose every single pick.
Try harder next time and pay attention.
jazzfan1971 wrote:Are we sure that Beal still has a no trade clause? Just wondering if it goes away once traded
Godymas wrote:cpower wrote:Godymas wrote:
the Devin Booker era obviously, please be serious when posting
the Devin Booker era is not as impressive as the Mike Conley era Are you going to post one about him?
Mike Conley was not the face of his team, it was Marc Gasol, and the era was called the "Grit and Grind era" everyone knows this
are you going to continue to make stupid posts, what would you refer to the time when Steve Nash ran the Phoenix Suns and accomplished nothing outside of the regular season? A random moment in time for the Phoenix Suns or is it the Steve Nash era
cpower wrote:Godymas wrote:cpower wrote:the Devin Booker era is not as impressive as the Mike Conley era Are you going to post one about him?
Mike Conley was not the face of his team, it was Marc Gasol, and the era was called the "Grit and Grind era" everyone knows this
are you going to continue to make stupid posts, what would you refer to the time when Steve Nash ran the Phoenix Suns and accomplished nothing outside of the regular season? A random moment in time for the Phoenix Suns or is it the Steve Nash era
Mike Conley has 100 WS and played 18 seasons, Booker played 9 season and had 45 WS....he has a long way to go before he even have a legacy. lets see where he has after 15 season
The Hypnotoad wrote:If the Celtics don’t win the championship this season (and I think they will win), I can see Boston trading Jaylen Brown for Kevin Durant to go all in on getting a chip during the Tatum years. I think it’d be a bit short sighted but that would be a pretty unbeatable team for at least a couple years barring injury.
And a Booker / Brown combo would be pretty appealing to Phoenix as a prime younger core.
Archx wrote:Suns shot themselves in the foot when they traded basically entire core for Beal and KD and also in the process lost important bench players. Cam and Bridges were perfect for them and the situation with Ayton was unfortunate but probably salvagable if both parties just sat down. Instead new owner tried to play NBA 2k GM mode in real life....
Do they even have any draft picks for the next 5 years? Or only bad contracts?
Disagree on Booker having low IQ reference but if you want a true point guard, the Lakers will make it happen for you.Exp0sed wrote:Booker is a low I.Q player through and through, he should be used like a weapon because he can def score and shoot with the best of them. in that #1 seed season it was CP3 who was making most of the decisions and he was also dominating alot of the advanced stats
he's also the opposite of a competitor and a leader, so he needs a real alpha that can make the decisions for him.
imagine him next to say..Jokic? Jokic will turn him into a superstar, the same way that CP3 did and the same way Jokic is using a guy like MPJ (who has even worse I.Q and decision making but is a top 5 pure shooter who can his shot off against anyone due to his size and skill set).
you put him next to a non-leader, average I.Q bus rider like KD and a non-leader low I.Q player in Beal and that's what u get..
Suns did the stupidest thing they could have done, foregoing a tradional PG and having no leaders or players that playmake for others on this roster, just a bunch of overpaid one dimensional shooters
if used properly he could be a menace