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I, too, am disappointed we didn't get to see much of the Jalen-Okongwu combo.
Their numbers together were really encouraging:
Their numbers together were really encouraging:
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dms269 wrote:Our interior is extremely weak though. JJ and Okongwu are not a duo that can play together.
Debatable. Going back a couple of years, they thrive when playing together. And so does the team.
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ESPN InsiderFields was honest in February when asked about Murray and Young playing together.
"The sample size is getting larger and larger and larger and assuming you're looking at specific lineups, and defensive and offensive ratings, which can always be debated as well," he told reporters. "I can't lie to you, the numbers speak to themselves on that."
Per Cleaning the Glass, Atlanta was outscored by 6.0 per 100 possessions this season when both players were on the court together. The Hawks had a 120.7 defensive efficiency rating in their shared minutes, fifth worst among more than 225 duos to play 1,000 minutes together. The most-used lineup of Young, Murray, Bey, Johnson and Clint Capela had a net rating of minus-15.3. When both Young and Murray were off the court, Atlanta had a defensive efficiency that would have ranked second.
The Hawks went 12-11 and ranked 15th in offensive and 18th in defensive efficiency in the games Young missed with his ligament injury. Murray is entering Year 1 of a four-year, $120 million extension. His $24.8 million cap hit is $20 million less than a max player. Murray had 11 games with 20 points and 10 assists, all with Young out of the lineup. Young has two years left on his contract ($43 million and $46 million) and can become a free agent in 2026.
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This was the Hawks 'Lineup of Death' last season.
They were dominant over a 19 game span on both offense and defense.
OFF Rating: 123
DEF Rating: 109.3
NET Rating: +13.7
Swap in a true 3&D wing at SF in place of Saddiq and run that starting 5 back with an improved bench. That alone makes us more competitive.
They were dominant over a 19 game span on both offense and defense.
OFF Rating: 123
DEF Rating: 109.3
NET Rating: +13.7
Swap in a true 3&D wing at SF in place of Saddiq and run that starting 5 back with an improved bench. That alone makes us more competitive.
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Just start Okongwu already. The numbers justify his elevation to the starting 5...
Peachtree HoopsWes Morton wrote:Capela is entering the last season of his contract at just over $22 million for this year. But he is now on the wrong side of 30 with an extensive injury history, and that could prod a proactive decision to move on from him. Still, as a player with a strong defensive reputation, a team closer to contending may look to bring him in as a finishing piece.
My guess is for the Hawks to decide between moving Capela or Nance and attempt to elevate Okongwu into the starting center spot. His minutes with Jalen Johnson have been really promising, and his long term contract mean the Hawks could use the near future to see if they have a starting center in him.
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Looks like a Center who doesn't stretch the floor is a real hindrance to Jalen's production/effectiveness.
(Or maybe it's just Capela specific.
(Or maybe it's just Capela specific.
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Jamaaliver wrote:Looks like a Center who doesn't stretch the floor is a real hindrance to Jalen's production/effectiveness.
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CC will also limit DD with his paint clogging. I'm however reluctant to include a first (with our current pick debt) for players that won't be around for the long haul and will have limited trade value going forward.
Caris Lavert is really bad and is an expiring.
DFS has struggled since leaving Dallas.
Seems like a waste of a good 1st round pick to dump Hunter's money.