GelbeWand09 wrote:eyriq wrote:"September 3, 2022: Traded Ochai Agbaji, Lauri Markkanen, Collin Sexton, a 2025 1st round draft pick, a 2026 1st round draft pick, a 2027 1st round draft pick, a 2028 1st round draft pick and a 2029 1st round draft pick to the Utah Jazz for Donovan Mitchell. Cleveland also received a trade exception 2025 1st-rd pick is CLE own 2026 1st-rd pick is a right to swap 2027 1st-rd pick is CLE own 2028 1st-rd pick is a right to swap 2029 1st-rd pick is CLE own"Knightro wrote:
Are they actually though?
If it doesn’t work out with Mitchell and they’re forced to trade him, they’re left with… the same core group of Garland, Mobley and Allen that they started with?
Plus they’ll have whatever they get back for Mitchell, which will likely be significant.
I think it’s a trade you do 10 times out of 10 if you’re Cleveland.
If they let it grow organically, they’re probably stuck in no man’s land of being a 5-10 seed with no real chance to get out of the first round, but also not bad enough to get another impact player in the draft.
That's a lot of value for very little return. They went all in on a contender and now they're ready to fire their coach in the midst of an identity crisis.
Minnesota is a positive example. Everyone laughed about the Gobert trade but he was Utah's best player & the floor raiser. They added a guy to improve their weakness (Defense) & they done it without losing McDaniels, instead send a extra pick who probably will never be as good as McDaniels is unlike the Cavs losing picks & good young players to double down on small guards.
Not a perfect trade (til they win a chip) because even without McDaniels they overpaid a bit pickwise, because Goberts value was at a alltime low leaquewide, but they are a real contender now instead of a laughing stock like the last 15 years.
My question for them; is it worth moving up the championship window when Edwards is still so young and very unlikely to lead them to a chip?
What's the point of contending if you aren't really a viable contender? By the time Edwards is ready to lead them Gobert is going to be out of his prime.