PG Pacers Game 4 - Loss

ShootingtheJ · Post #101 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:03 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Giannis, Doc and Edens need to spend a week at a remote resort. Talk things over. Decide where they go.

Horst can remain here, and be brought in via ZOOM if called.

Why would you give Doc more power over our direction than Horst?

SupremeHustle · Post #102 » by **SupremeHustle** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:03 am

MiltownMadness wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:A dude won an MVP less than a decade ago who made a career of 'turbo boost', not a good take. Honestly if you take 2 mins you could prob name 10 players

wait isn't Giannis great because turbo boost? This is confusing

Nah. Not EVEN close to the same thing. I can feel your vitriol, though so I'm gonna let you cook.

Vitriol? Ok dude Yeah a guy can't be good if he gives extreme effort, great point...

Yeah. That's what I said. Extreme effort.

HKPackFan · Post #103 » by **HKPackFan** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:03 am

Matches Malone wrote:

Read on Twitter

Ouch that hurts.

And how much has Khris Middleton played same time?

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #104 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:03 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:Can we fix the thread title? It's game 4.

Having it read Game 3 seems more appropriate for this season.

as big as a fan of bud as ive been i still go back and forth about who was smarter.... him or stotts

TroyD92 · Post #105 » by **TroyD92** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:04 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Can you guys think of a player who played on Turbo Boost every play that was actually good? Asking because if AJJ doesn't calm down I'm not sure he's going to be a player.

I mean the guy is a basketball savant. He makes all the right plays. My only question with him is whether his scoring game can catch up.

Also Russell Westbrook.

Russell Westbrook was incredibly controlled. There's a difference between being fast and in control vs whatever AJJ is right now. Maybe I'm in the minority, though. All good.

I mean I don't think you're wrong. I just think he needs to be given a chance. I'd plug him in as a rotation player, but not a starter in an ideal world.

MiltownMadness · Post #106 » by **MiltownMadness** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:04 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
Nah. Not EVEN close to the same thing. I can feel your vitriol, though so I'm gonna let you cook.

Vitriol? Ok dude Yeah a guy can't be good if he gives extreme effort, great point...

Yeah. That's what I said. Extreme effort.

MB for not being able to distinguish between turbo boost and extreme effort truly.

Baddy Chuck · Post #107 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:05 am

SupremeHustle wrote:Can you guys think of a player who played on Turbo Boost every play that was actually good? Asking because if AJJ doesn't calm down I'm not sure he's going to be a player.

Pat Bev.

SupremeHustle · Post #108 » by **SupremeHustle** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:06 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Can you guys think of a player who played on Turbo Boost every play that was actually good? Asking because if AJJ doesn't calm down I'm not sure he's going to be a player.

You and I will be on a lonely island on this one. The guy is interesting as a 8-10th man long term. But he’s not the answer as a 30+mpg core player. He’s our Jose Alvarado.

You can find posts from earlier in the season where guys were calling him a point guard. :-?

Also, my question was serious. But I guess he's like Giannis and Westbrook. I dunno.

MiltownMadness · Post #109 » by **MiltownMadness** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:08 am

My problem is that AJJ is very clearly a high IQ player but struggles defensively in the NBA like most rookies, this stuff gets fixed with experience. The way you are describing him is a super athletic chicken with his head cut off, that might be the case rn but his high IQ still manages to show its ugly head

randy84 · Post #110 » by **randy84** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:08 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Given where we ended up, probably would have been more interesting to see Griffin finish the season. Then again, the players mutinied, so it wasn’t going to happen.

The issue was panicking and hiring Doc. I was optimistic because Joerger came with him, but going from Bud to Doc is a big downgrade.

SupremeHustle · Post #111 » by **SupremeHustle** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:08 am

TroyD92 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:
I mean the guy is a basketball savant. He makes all the right plays. My only question with him is whether his scoring game can catch up.

Also Russell Westbrook.

Russell Westbrook was incredibly controlled. There's a difference between being fast and in control vs whatever AJJ is right now. Maybe I'm in the minority, though. All good.

I mean I don't think you're wrong. I just think he needs to be given a chance. I'd plug him in as a rotation player, but not a starter in an ideal world.

Why are guys acting like I'm calling him a bust? I was genuinely curious. In the game thread somebody called him Dan Gadzuric. I just think the dude needs to slow down, like a lot.

MiltownMadness · Post #112 » by **MiltownMadness** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:09 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Can you guys think of a player who played on Turbo Boost every play that was actually good? Asking because if AJJ doesn't calm down I'm not sure he's going to be a player.

You and I will be on a lonely island on this one. The guy is interesting as a 8-10th man long term. But he’s not the answer as a 30+mpg core player. He’s our Jose Alvarado.

You can find posts from earlier in the season where guys were calling him a point guard.

Also, my question was serious. But I guess he's like Giannis and Westbrook. I dunno.

You asked for an example of a turbo boost player who was good in the NBA, not comparisons. Cmon bro dont paint the picture like that :lol:

msiris · Post #113 » by **msiris** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:10 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Can you guys think of a player who played on Turbo Boost every play that was actually good? Asking because if AJJ doesn't calm down I'm not sure he's going to be a player.

You and I will be on a lonely island on this one. The guy is interesting as a 8-10th man long term. But he’s not the answer as a 30+mpg core player. He’s our Jose Alvarado.

You maybe right. I would like to see if he could do more. Can he be a player that can take it to the hoop? All know I is that he can be a role player.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #114 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:10 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Can you guys think of a player who played on Turbo Boost every play that was actually good? Asking because if AJJ doesn't calm down I'm not sure he's going to be a player.

Pat Bev.

pat bev is civic si with a 8000 redline who plays nonstop in VTEC. dude doesnt have a turbo mode but boy can he rev.

ajax is like the guy with the same motor only he slapped a ebay turbo with open wastegate on that thing and hasnt tuned it yet.

thats for you guys that like to mess with cars btw :lol:

FlagsFlyForever · Post #115 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:10 am

blazza18 wrote:Personnel lost us this game and likely the series. It was always the biggest issue for us and it's been magnified when our two best players have been forced to sit out. Jon Horst has a lot to fix.

Horst doesn't have a lot to fix; he has a little to tweak and then pray for health. Giannis-Dame-Middleton is a championship trio. We don't need to be making any major moves this offseason. I believe we're very close to a second title and the worst thing we could do is try to fill holes that would be filled if our stars were healthy.

Post #116 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:11 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Can you guys think of a player who played on Turbo Boost every play that was actually good? Asking because if AJJ doesn't calm down I'm not sure he's going to be a player.

You and I will be on a lonely island on this one. The guy is interesting as a 8-10th man long term. But he’s not the answer as a 30+mpg core player. He’s our Jose Alvarado.

It's the backup QB syndrome.

MiltownMadness · Post #117 » by **MiltownMadness** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:12 am

FlagsFlyForever wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Personnel lost us this game and likely the series. It was always the biggest issue for us and it's been magnified when our two best players have been forced to sit out. Jon Horst has a lot to fix.

Horst doesn't have a lot to fix; he has a little to tweak and then pray for health. Giannis-Dame-Middleton is a championship trio. We don't need to be making any major moves this offseason. I believe we're very close to a second title and the worst thing we could do is try to fill holes that would be filled if our stars were healthy..

I'm on this wagon. Mids/giannis/Dame is disgusting in the playoffs and will likely win a title if healthy. If they can't stay healthy so be it, a big change in the big 3 personnel won't save us atp. You want to keep Dame/Giannis and Khris has way more value to us than any other team

RiotPunch · Post #118 » by **RiotPunch** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:12 am

"You'll get a better Bobby tomorrow." -Doc

Bobby:

VooDoo7 · Post #119 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:14 am

WTF is going on with this site?

Daver · Post #120 » by **Daver** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:14 am

FlagsFlyForever wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Personnel lost us this game and likely the series. It was always the biggest issue for us and it's been magnified when our two best players have been forced to sit out. Jon Horst has a lot to fix.

Horst doesn't have a lot to fix; he has a little to tweak and then pray for health. Giannis-Dame-Middleton is a championship trio. We don't need to be making any major moves this offseason. I believe we're very close to a second title and the worst thing we could do is try to fill holes that would be filled if our stars were healthy.

Agree how many games did our big 3 play together this year 10 or so 22 no midds last year it was no giannis this year no giannis n tonight no dame.Agree big 3 are healthy come PO time we have a very good chanxe to get another chip