TheSuzerain wrote:The Trae plan offers some tangible hope. Which is more than I can say about our current plan.
IMO, the Trae plan is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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TheSuzerain wrote:The Trae plan offers some tangible hope. Which is more than I can say about our current plan.
jnrjr79 wrote:TheSuzerain wrote:The Trae plan offers some tangible hope. Which is more than I can say about our current plan.
IMO, the Trae plan is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
jnrjr79 wrote:sco wrote:jnrjr79 wrote:
Salary dump makes a lot more sense given where the Bulls are right now. Trading for either of those guys is just willfully remaining mid.
Young, in particular, seems to me to be a net negative player.
I would prefer a rebuild, but I'm 100% sure AK won't, so this would be next best thing IMO.
I would also prefer a rebuild and also agree that AK is not going to do it, but I think swapping Zach for Young makes the Bulls worse. Randle might make them better.
coldfish wrote:Zach should file a complaint. Some of those non calls were battery complaints.
Stratmaster wrote:Will Perdue says asinine things, and his pants are way too short.
sco wrote: New Orleans has to be one of the, if not THE hardest city to eat healthy. I think they fry the water.
MrSparkle wrote:Brooklyn needs to win games, cause they don’t own picks. I think Zach, Caruso and Vuc would be intriguing, lower-cost additions to their Mikal-led team.
We would want Claxton and Cam Johnson, latter whom is injury prone (head’s up). But a S&T and parallel swap could work. Big issue is they have no picks to move. 3rd team could make things more interesting, esp. if Simmons, Lonzo are involved for expiring cap relief to the 3rd party.
Muzbar wrote:MrSparkle wrote:Brooklyn needs to win games, cause they don’t own picks. I think Zach, Caruso and Vuc would be intriguing, lower-cost additions to their Mikal-led team.
We would want Claxton and Cam Johnson, latter whom is injury prone (head’s up). But a S&T and parallel swap could work. Big issue is they have no picks to move. 3rd team could make things more interesting, esp. if Simmons, Lonzo are involved for expiring cap relief to the 3rd party.
Brooklyn own picks from Phoenix and Philly.
I would imagine they'd want to keep Claxton, especially to help cover for LaVines deficiencies on defense.
Day'Ron Sharpe is a player I'd like back in return for Zach though, good young C.
patryk7754 wrote:Full Tank for Cooper Flagg
Trade 1:
Lavine to the Grizzlies for Clarke, Kennard, Williams and a 1st
Trade 2:
Vucevic to the Mavs for Green, Kleber, and a protected 1st
Trade 3:
White to the Nets for Schroder and a 1st
Trade 4:
Caruso to the Cavs for Niang and two 1sts
Roster:
Schroder/Carter
Kennard/Ayo
Green/Williams
Clarke
Kleber
Muzbar wrote:Ok, it's that time of year again, time for another crazy Muzbar trade idea!!!
Bulls receive:
Clint Capela (Atl)
Chris Paul (GSW)
Jonathan Kuminga (GSW)
Moses Moody (GSW)
Jett Howard (Orl)
Warriors receive:
Nikola Vucevic (Chi)
Alex Caruso (Chi)
Joe Ingles (Orl)
AJ Griffin (Atl)
Magic receive:
Trae Young (Atl)
Hawks receive:
Zach LaVine (Chi)
Jalen Suggs (Orl)
Jonathan Isaac (Orl)
FRP (Orl)
FRP (GSW)
Bulls go full youth with a splatter of vets on expiring contracts. Rotation looks like:
Ayo/Paul/Carter/Ball*
White/Moody/Bitim
Williams/Howard/Terry
Kuminga/Phillips
Capela/11th?
Magic get an actual PG in Trae who can shoot from 3 and set the table for Franz and Paolo.
Warriors retool with Vucevic next to Draymond and Caruso next to Curry (or off the bench as 6th man) plus the swap out a disgruntled Moody for Griffin and kick the tires on him. Ingles is a good shooter so therefore fits GS fine.
Hawks pair Murray with LaVine which I think is a better pairing than Trae/Murray or Trae/LaVine plus a young talent in Suggs who can play with either Zach or Dejounte, Hawks can then move Okongwu to the starting C spot with Issac backing him up.
Maybe one of those FRPs can be re-routed to Chicago instead but these moves make the Bulls young (I know, OMG another rebuild, but we want to stay mediocre!!!) plus it gives the Bulls 70-80 million in expirings (maybe more) some of which could be used to sign somebody to add to the young core.
Have at me!!!
jc23 wrote:Goran + Lonzo + Zach = the Dragon Ball Z line up.
ChiefILL53 wrote:Muzbar wrote:Ok, it's that time of year again, time for another crazy Muzbar trade idea!!!
Bulls receive:
Clint Capela (Atl)
Chris Paul (GSW)
Jonathan Kuminga (GSW)
Moses Moody (GSW)
Jett Howard (Orl)
Warriors receive:
Nikola Vucevic (Chi)
Alex Caruso (Chi)
Joe Ingles (Orl)
AJ Griffin (Atl)
Magic receive:
Trae Young (Atl)
Hawks receive:
Zach LaVine (Chi)
Jalen Suggs (Orl)
Jonathan Isaac (Orl)
FRP (Orl)
FRP (GSW)
Bulls go full youth with a splatter of vets on expiring contracts. Rotation looks like:
Ayo/Paul/Carter/Ball*
White/Moody/Bitim
Williams/Howard/Terry
Kuminga/Phillips
Capela/11th?
Magic get an actual PG in Trae who can shoot from 3 and set the table for Franz and Paolo.
Warriors retool with Vucevic next to Draymond and Caruso next to Curry (or off the bench as 6th man) plus the swap out a disgruntled Moody for Griffin and kick the tires on him. Ingles is a good shooter so therefore fits GS fine.
Hawks pair Murray with LaVine which I think is a better pairing than Trae/Murray or Trae/LaVine plus a young talent in Suggs who can play with either Zach or Dejounte, Hawks can then move Okongwu to the starting C spot with Issac backing him up.
Maybe one of those FRPs can be re-routed to Chicago instead but these moves make the Bulls young (I know, OMG another rebuild, but we want to stay mediocre!!!) plus it gives the Bulls 70-80 million in expirings (maybe more) some of which could be used to sign somebody to add to the young core.
Have at me!!!
I dont hate it. My only question is, does this work in a trade machine? Seems like the bulls are taking in more salary than they're sending out.
jump wrote:Even if financially possible, it’s absurd to think one could get four teams to agree to anything like this. Hard enough to get two teams to make a deal.
Charlesareed wrote:I’d trade Zach ball caurso carter Craig picks for KD & Royce O’Neal or Josh okogie
Resign ddr & pat
Coby
Ayo
DDR
KD
Vuc
A bench of Javonte green pat Drummond Terry bitim Philips shango O’Neal/okogie & drell
MisterRoy wrote:ChiefILL53 wrote:Muzbar wrote:Ok, it's that time of year again, time for another crazy Muzbar trade idea!!!
Bulls receive:
Clint Capela (Atl)
Chris Paul (GSW)
Jonathan Kuminga (GSW)
Moses Moody (GSW)
Jett Howard (Orl)
Warriors receive:
Nikola Vucevic (Chi)
Alex Caruso (Chi)
Joe Ingles (Orl)
AJ Griffin (Atl)
Magic receive:
Trae Young (Atl)
Hawks receive:
Zach LaVine (Chi)
Jalen Suggs (Orl)
Jonathan Isaac (Orl)
FRP (Orl)
FRP (GSW)
Bulls go full youth with a splatter of vets on expiring contracts. Rotation looks like:
Ayo/Paul/Carter/Ball*
White/Moody/Bitim
Williams/Howard/Terry
Kuminga/Phillips
Capela/11th?
Magic get an actual PG in Trae who can shoot from 3 and set the table for Franz and Paolo.
Warriors retool with Vucevic next to Draymond and Caruso next to Curry (or off the bench as 6th man) plus the swap out a disgruntled Moody for Griffin and kick the tires on him. Ingles is a good shooter so therefore fits GS fine.
Hawks pair Murray with LaVine which I think is a better pairing than Trae/Murray or Trae/LaVine plus a young talent in Suggs who can play with either Zach or Dejounte, Hawks can then move Okongwu to the starting C spot with Issac backing him up.
Maybe one of those FRPs can be re-routed to Chicago instead but these moves make the Bulls young (I know, OMG another rebuild, but we want to stay mediocre!!!) plus it gives the Bulls 70-80 million in expirings (maybe more) some of which could be used to sign somebody to add to the young core.
Have at me!!!
I dont hate it. My only question is, does this work in a trade machine? Seems like the bulls are taking in more salary than they're sending out.
It doesn’t work for Orlando or GS, financially.
Sent from somewhere you’ve never been.
Muzbar wrote:MisterRoy wrote:ChiefILL53 wrote:
I dont hate it. My only question is, does this work in a trade machine? Seems like the bulls are taking in more salary than they're sending out.
It doesn’t work for Orlando or GS, financially.
Sent from somewhere you’ve never been.
Um, it absolutely works financially for all teams.
jnrjr79 wrote:Muzbar wrote:MisterRoy wrote:It doesn’t work for Orlando or GS, financially.
Sent from somewhere you’ve never been.
Um, it absolutely works financially for all teams.
I think it'll only work for GSW if they let Klay walk. Otherwise, they'd project to be a 2nd apron team that can't aggregate salaries in a trade.