UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Has everyone come around to Holland being the best pick at 6 (assuming no Sarr)?
Yeah, I think he's the best upside swing at that point in the draft.
He's at the top of my wishlist of players besides Sarr.
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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Has everyone come around to Holland being the best pick at 6 (assuming no Sarr)?
BC_IS_A_PLAYA wrote:jonas sucks, his dad should have got a vasectomy
Jcity08 wrote:I wonder where Filipowski will be drafted, his game intrigues me.
MainEvent wrote:Who do we like out of the bigs who have floor spacing potential @19? Ware, Smith, Filipowski or da Silva? (is he more 3 than 4?)
+ theres also Holmes and Chomche
19. Toronto Raptors (via Pacers): Tyler Smith
Previous Mock Draft Spot: No. 20
Team: Ignite
Position: PF
Size: 6'11", 224 lbs
Age: 19
Nationality: American
Pro comparison: Channing Frye
There will be a long list of teams trying to get Tyler Smith in for workouts. His production and shooting this year felt unexpected, but it earned scouts' attention, given the obvious appeal to a 6'11" forward who made 58 threes in 43 games.
There are some questions about his defensive upside and whether he'll be a threat to put the ball on the floor. In the mid-to-late first round, though, there should be enough teams interested in just adding a surefire, frontcourt shotmaker and finisher.
31. Toronto Raptors (via Pistons): Jaylon Tyson
Previous Mock Draft Spot: No. 31
Team: California
Position: SF/PF
Size: 6'7", 215 lbs
Age/Year: 21, Junior
Nationality: American
Pro comparison: Caleb Martin
Jaylon Tyson figures to get looks from teams starting in the mid-to-late first round after a breakout season averaging 19.6 points and 3.5 assists.
A 30.1 percent usage on a 13-19 California team does cast a cloud over his statistical production. But the eye test clearly shows a scorer with NBA traits and skills, including 6'7" size, ball-handling for creation/playmaking and tough shotmaking.
Tyson should be able to help himself by standing out during NBA combine scrimmages.
OAKLEY_2 wrote:PoundTown wrote:MEDIC wrote:Castle reminds me of Norman Powell with better court vision and passing ability.
The way he moves out there and his size also reminds me of norm. Norm couldn’t shoot at Stephons age either. Norm was a bit longer and a bit more explosive though, but stephon better defender feel wise and better overall feel, as you mentioned the court vision/ passing. I still think stephons workouts will determine a lot, specifically how much you believe he can improve as a shooter. If he can become the shooter norm is, he’d be a pretty impactful player but that’s a big if.
I think Castle, if we keep our pick, is a homerun. He seems a better reader of what is going on in a game where Norm was often head down leading a charge. Later Norm was completely different than early Norm. Better and more consistent shooter. More efficient too. Hard to recall Norm as the 4th developed piece by Masai. We think of Paskal, Fred, OG and forget Norm. Norm was the first to go of this last talent pool. Poetl should be in this group but he left for Kawhi so him coming back is the last of that group. Masai got very lucky with these players but he was never prepared to pay some or all them max and near max deals. I bet he wanted to pay OG but OG was his only bonafide trade chip.
DG88 wrote:Wasserman ran tankathon and we lost our pick in the mock as we fell to 7th with the Spurs taking Rob Dillingham
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10118310-2024-nba-mock-draft-lottery-simulation-and-full-2-round-predictions19. Toronto Raptors (via Pacers): Tyler Smith
Previous Mock Draft Spot: No. 20
Team: Ignite
Position: PF
Size: 6'11", 224 lbs
Age: 19
Nationality: American
Pro comparison: Channing Frye
There will be a long list of teams trying to get Tyler Smith in for workouts. His production and shooting this year felt unexpected, but it earned scouts' attention, given the obvious appeal to a 6'11" forward who made 58 threes in 43 games.
There are some questions about his defensive upside and whether he'll be a threat to put the ball on the floor. In the mid-to-late first round, though, there should be enough teams interested in just adding a surefire, frontcourt shotmaker and finisher.31. Toronto Raptors (via Pistons): Jaylon Tyson
Previous Mock Draft Spot: No. 31
Team: California
Position: SF/PF
Size: 6'7", 215 lbs
Age/Year: 21, Junior
Nationality: American
Pro comparison: Caleb Martin
Jaylon Tyson figures to get looks from teams starting in the mid-to-late first round after a breakout season averaging 19.6 points and 3.5 assists.
A 30.1 percent usage on a 13-19 California team does cast a cloud over his statistical production. But the eye test clearly shows a scorer with NBA traits and skills, including 6'7" size, ball-handling for creation/playmaking and tough shotmaking.
Tyson should be able to help himself by standing out during NBA combine scrimmages.
Raptorfan2012 wrote:OAKLEY_2 wrote:PoundTown wrote:
The way he moves out there and his size also reminds me of norm. Norm couldn’t shoot at Stephons age either. Norm was a bit longer and a bit more explosive though, but stephon better defender feel wise and better overall feel, as you mentioned the court vision/ passing. I still think stephons workouts will determine a lot, specifically how much you believe he can improve as a shooter. If he can become the shooter norm is, he’d be a pretty impactful player but that’s a big if.
I think Castle, if we keep our pick, is a homerun. He seems a better reader of what is going on in a game where Norm was often head down leading a charge. Later Norm was completely different than early Norm. Better and more consistent shooter. More efficient too. Hard to recall Norm as the 4th developed piece by Masai. We think of Paskal, Fred, OG and forget Norm. Norm was the first to go of this last talent pool. Poetl should be in this group but he left for Kawhi so him coming back is the last of that group. Masai got very lucky with these players but he was never prepared to pay some or all them max and near max deals. I bet he wanted to pay OG but OG was his only bonafide trade chip.
I think Castle is going to take a hit once measurements come out - I do not believe he is 6'6; closer to 6'4 is my guess.
Raptorfan2012 wrote:OAKLEY_2 wrote:PoundTown wrote:
The way he moves out there and his size also reminds me of norm. Norm couldn’t shoot at Stephons age either. Norm was a bit longer and a bit more explosive though, but stephon better defender feel wise and better overall feel, as you mentioned the court vision/ passing. I still think stephons workouts will determine a lot, specifically how much you believe he can improve as a shooter. If he can become the shooter norm is, he’d be a pretty impactful player but that’s a big if.
I think Castle, if we keep our pick, is a homerun. He seems a better reader of what is going on in a game where Norm was often head down leading a charge. Later Norm was completely different than early Norm. Better and more consistent shooter. More efficient too. Hard to recall Norm as the 4th developed piece by Masai. We think of Paskal, Fred, OG and forget Norm. Norm was the first to go of this last talent pool. Poetl should be in this group but he left for Kawhi so him coming back is the last of that group. Masai got very lucky with these players but he was never prepared to pay some or all them max and near max deals. I bet he wanted to pay OG but OG was his only bonafide trade chip.
I think Castle is going to take a hit once measurements come out - I do not believe he is 6'6; closer to 6'4 is my guess.
DG88 wrote:Wasserman ran tankathon and we lost our pick in the mock as we fell to 7th with the Spurs taking Rob Dillingham
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10118310-2024-nba-mock-draft-lottery-simulation-and-full-2-round-predictions19. Toronto Raptors (via Pacers): Tyler Smith
Previous Mock Draft Spot: No. 20
Team: Ignite
Position: PF
Size: 6'11", 224 lbs
Age: 19
Nationality: American
Pro comparison: Channing Frye
There will be a long list of teams trying to get Tyler Smith in for workouts. His production and shooting this year felt unexpected, but it earned scouts' attention, given the obvious appeal to a 6'11" forward who made 58 threes in 43 games.
There are some questions about his defensive upside and whether he'll be a threat to put the ball on the floor. In the mid-to-late first round, though, there should be enough teams interested in just adding a surefire, frontcourt shotmaker and finisher.31. Toronto Raptors (via Pistons): Jaylon Tyson
Previous Mock Draft Spot: No. 31
Team: California
Position: SF/PF
Size: 6'7", 215 lbs
Age/Year: 21, Junior
Nationality: American
Pro comparison: Caleb Martin
Jaylon Tyson figures to get looks from teams starting in the mid-to-late first round after a breakout season averaging 19.6 points and 3.5 assists.
A 30.1 percent usage on a 13-19 California team does cast a cloud over his statistical production. But the eye test clearly shows a scorer with NBA traits and skills, including 6'7" size, ball-handling for creation/playmaking and tough shotmaking.
Tyson should be able to help himself by standing out during NBA combine scrimmages.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:DG88 wrote:Wasserman ran tankathon and we lost our pick in the mock as we fell to 7th with the Spurs taking Rob Dillingham
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10118310-2024-nba-mock-draft-lottery-simulation-and-full-2-round-predictions19. Toronto Raptors (via Pacers): Tyler Smith
Previous Mock Draft Spot: No. 20
Team: Ignite
Position: PF
Size: 6'11", 224 lbs
Age: 19
Nationality: American
Pro comparison: Channing Frye
There will be a long list of teams trying to get Tyler Smith in for workouts. His production and shooting this year felt unexpected, but it earned scouts' attention, given the obvious appeal to a 6'11" forward who made 58 threes in 43 games.
There are some questions about his defensive upside and whether he'll be a threat to put the ball on the floor. In the mid-to-late first round, though, there should be enough teams interested in just adding a surefire, frontcourt shotmaker and finisher.31. Toronto Raptors (via Pistons): Jaylon Tyson
Previous Mock Draft Spot: No. 31
Team: California
Position: SF/PF
Size: 6'7", 215 lbs
Age/Year: 21, Junior
Nationality: American
Pro comparison: Caleb Martin
Jaylon Tyson figures to get looks from teams starting in the mid-to-late first round after a breakout season averaging 19.6 points and 3.5 assists.
A 30.1 percent usage on a 13-19 California team does cast a cloud over his statistical production. But the eye test clearly shows a scorer with NBA traits and skills, including 6'7" size, ball-handling for creation/playmaking and tough shotmaking.
Tyson should be able to help himself by standing out during NBA combine scrimmages.
i like Smith, good bench big to have to start his career. a Boucher replacement big.
hyper316 wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:DG88 wrote:Wasserman ran tankathon and we lost our pick in the mock as we fell to 7th with the Spurs taking Rob Dillingham
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10118310-2024-nba-mock-draft-lottery-simulation-and-full-2-round-predictions
i like Smith, good bench big to have to start his career. a Boucher replacement big.
We got boucher clone in Gueye already
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
Chandan wrote:i simed tankathon 6 times and i couldn't get the pick to convey
1st once
4th once
3rd twice
6th twice
Mark_83 wrote:2 hours of Mark Sears highlights.
I love his calmness and composure. He's got a great internal clock and never allows the defense to speed him up. Very reminiscent of Fred. He's in consideration for me at 31 if we haven't already drafted a PG with our other picks.
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