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Denver has been awful latley too….Even Dallas is a mess….but I get it
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mpharris36 wrote:We were so much worse under Gettleman
His record with the team was 19-46 (.292 winning %)
even with a bad (injury ridden) record last year Schoen is 15-18-1 (.441 winning %) - with a playoff win
Now if we have a worse season than last year I agree its time to start questioning the regime. But I don't think we should. We added some talent on defense. This is also assuming Andrew Thomas is healthy this year that will make a big difference. And we should have a legit #1 WR.
I'm not jumping up and down where we are at right now. However I think sometimes we can lose perspective of how bad the Gettleman/Schurmer/Joe Judge era was.
mpharris36 wrote:We were so much worse under Gettleman
His record with the team was 19-46 (.292 winning %)
even with a bad (injury ridden) record last year Schoen is 15-18-1 (.441 winning %) - with a playoff win
Now if we have a worse season than last year I agree its time to start questioning the regime. But I don't think we should. We added some talent on defense. This is also assuming Andrew Thomas is healthy this year that will make a big difference. And we should have a legit #1 WR.
I'm not jumping up and down where we are at right now. However I think sometimes we can lose perspective of how bad the Gettleman/Schurmer/Joe Judge era was.
mpharris36 wrote:We were so much worse under Gettleman
His record with the team was 19-46 (.292 winning %)
even with a bad (injury ridden) record last year Schoen is 15-18-1 (.441 winning %) - with a playoff win
Now if we have a worse season than last year I agree its time to start questioning the regime. But I don't think we should. We added some talent on defense. This is also assuming Andrew Thomas is healthy this year that will make a big difference. And we should have a legit #1 WR.
I'm not jumping up and down where we are at right now. However I think sometimes we can lose perspective of how bad the Gettleman/Schurmer/Joe Judge era was.
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Lmao, who demands to go to Washington or Atlanta? Two of the worst run franchises
Denver has been awful latley too….Even Dallas is a mess….but I get it
Ghetto Gospel wrote:wait people think we'll be good? i can see us picking in the top 10 again pretty easily lol
our over/under for the season as presented by gambling websites is 6.5 with more action on the under so we're projected to have a pretty similar season as the one we just had. i'm just hoping the kids play well and we see them take a few steps up. realistically, we should kind of flame out to give us the best shot possible to get a top tier qb cause daniel jones aint it
TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:We were so much worse under Gettleman
His record with the team was 19-46 (.292 winning %)
even with a bad (injury ridden) record last year Schoen is 15-18-1 (.441 winning %) - with a playoff win
Now if we have a worse season than last year I agree its time to start questioning the regime. But I don't think we should. We added some talent on defense. This is also assuming Andrew Thomas is healthy this year that will make a big difference. And we should have a legit #1 WR.
I'm not jumping up and down where we are at right now. However I think sometimes we can lose perspective of how bad the Gettleman/Schurmer/Joe Judge era was.
And gloss over how bad this era is if we find a way to lose more games this year than last…because we like them?
Bruh the name of the game is to get better…if we not getting better…. he not better than Getty. It’s simple math.you better than Getty?
Then it should be shown in the results.
The funniest part here is that the biggest Schoen and Daboll hater, is saying we going to win more than 6 games this year…while the Schoen and Daboll fans talking about we in the running for #1
I don’t play both sides of the fence …..either we getting better or we not.
Ghetto Gospel wrote:wait people think we'll be good? i can see us picking in the top 10 again pretty easily lol
our over/under for the season as presented by gambling websites is 6.5 with more action on the under so we're projected to have a pretty similar season as the one we just had. i'm just hoping the kids play well and we see them take a few steps up. realistically, we should kind of flame out to give us the best shot possible to get a top tier qb cause daniel jones aint it
TerrenceClarke wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:Lmao, who demands to go to Washington or Atlanta? Two of the worst run franchises
Denver has been awful latley too….Even Dallas is a mess….but I get it
I was watching a documentary not long ago on Deion Sanders baseball career and by far his most toxic stop was New York Yankees. I don’t know anything about that era of baseball, but based on this doc I can see him having hatred for NYC. The media/team/fans was on some BS with him.
TerrenceClarke wrote:Ghetto Gospel wrote:wait people think we'll be good? i can see us picking in the top 10 again pretty easily lol
our over/under for the season as presented by gambling websites is 6.5 with more action on the under so we're projected to have a pretty similar season as the one we just had. i'm just hoping the kids play well and we see them take a few steps up. realistically, we should kind of flame out to give us the best shot possible to get a top tier qb cause daniel jones aint it
If you give out 242 million in one offseason you should be better than the year before right? lol it’s simple logic
You talked about being “good” Good is relative… but we should be better than what we was a year ago. If not we spending money and getting no return. That’s terrible GMing and coaching. The can care less about being the good we all think is “good”.
We Put up 9 wins with a roster Getty built but progressively gets worse each year after with more of his fingerprints on the roster is nasty work.
Yall turning the giants into the Knicks. Wishing for unrealistic things when it’s obvious it won’t go that way based on the moves made.
In the early days of Leon he was making moves that said we won’t be in the running for #1 and fans wanted to ignore that cause of they own personal wants.
Everyone here was saying Schoen did his thing this offseason and in the draft only for us to be worst than one of the worst years ever witnessed by Giants fans?
We was historically bad last year.
Logic dictates we should see improvements, or Schoen and Daboll are terrible at what they do and we need to look elsewhere cause they ain’t it.
mpharris36 wrote:Ghetto Gospel wrote:wait people think we'll be good? i can see us picking in the top 10 again pretty easily lol
our over/under for the season as presented by gambling websites is 6.5 with more action on the under so we're projected to have a pretty similar season as the one we just had. i'm just hoping the kids play well and we see them take a few steps up. realistically, we should kind of flame out to give us the best shot possible to get a top tier qb cause daniel jones aint it
We played respectable last year once Andrew Thomas got better and the offensive line started to play respectable. I don't think they win less than 6 games next year. Thats just me personally. If they do you absolutely have a right to question the regime and direction.
Right now there only 2 years in. 1 year surpassed expectations and then one year that didn't. I don't think Andrew Thomas (I stated before the Giants most important player) getting hurt on the 1st possession of the season did them no favors.
TerrenceClarke wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:Lmao, who demands to go to Washington or Atlanta? Two of the worst run franchises
Denver has been awful latley too….Even Dallas is a mess….but I get it
I was watching a documentary not long ago on Deion Sanders baseball career and by far his most toxic stop was New York Yankees. I don’t know anything about that era of baseball, but based on this doc I can see him having hatred for NYC. The media/team/fans was on some BS with him.
MrDollarBills wrote:I don't think we'll be a playoff team but I expect a team that plays hard and wins maybe 1 or 2 games that they shouldn't. Otherwise I expect a top 10 pick again. This roster is not that good and we have young guys on both sides that need to develop