NOP offers McCollum, Ingram, a 24 FRP and 27 FRP to Cleveland for Mitchell, LeVert and Allen.
Cleveland can begin the process of moving Mobley to the 5. Get the ball exclusively in Garland’s hands, still have a formidable scoring 2G. And pick up a couple of FRPs.
NOP gets the defensive center they want, moves Mitchell to the PG spot. NOP is in a spot to draft BPA to fill needs.
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I think McCollum + 3 1sts could get in the running for Mitchell.
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Just not good for Cleveland. Mitchell for Ingram is an option if there were assurances Ingram resigns. The Allen part is a non-starter.
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McCollum, Ingram, #17, #21, (maybe a future pic or prospect like Hawkins or DDaniels if need more)
to Cleveland for Mitchell, LeVert and Allen.
Since CLE is sending out two starters (Mitchell and Allen) and taking in two (McC and Ing), it will still need to fill one position (pf instead of sf). So, picks #17 and #21 added to its own #20 should give them enough ammo to get a pf to play next to Mobley.
to Cleveland for Mitchell, LeVert and Allen.
Since CLE is sending out two starters (Mitchell and Allen) and taking in two (McC and Ing), it will still need to fill one position (pf instead of sf). So, picks #17 and #21 added to its own #20 should give them enough ammo to get a pf to play next to Mobley.
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Yeah, NOP has the assets to make the deal work but it’s really short.
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McCollum is a worse fit than Mitchell next to Garland. I like him as a 6th man, but that's awfully expensive. The Cavs are basically inherting the Pelicans cap problems here, assuming Ingram commits to an extension, while trading the only value contract and an expiring. Value aside, and this is light, I think the financial considerations kill this. We'd still need backup bigs after this.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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louc1970 wrote:NOP offers McCollum, Ingram, a 24 FRP and 27 FRP to Cleveland for Mitchell, LeVert and Allen.
Cleveland can begin the process of moving Mobley to the 5. Get the ball exclusively in Garland’s hands, still have a formidable scoring 2G. And pick up a couple of FRPs.
NOP gets the defensive center they want, moves Mitchell to the PG spot. NOP is in a spot to draft BPA to fill needs.
Cleveland has no direction here-- it's straight to the treadmill.
McCollum and Ingram aren't elevating the Cavs to a contender. They're both offense-first players who will never be the best offensive player in a series. But they're going to take touches away from Garland or Mobley and keep them from becoming that kind of player, too.
They likely lose Ingram to free agency unless he convinces them to give him a max, and he's not a max player.
McCollum is overpaid. His contract is a bigger problem for whoever obtains him than his skills are a benefit.
The 24 FRP will be outside the lottery in a bad draft and the 27 FRP probably won't be good if NOP retains Mitchell and Allen, particularly if Zion ever manages to stay healthy. They aren't enough to package their contracts, either.
If I'm Cleveland I'd accept neither a Mitchell for Ingram + two firsts trade, nor a McCollum for LeVert and Allen swap. I'd be hard-pressed to take McCollum for LeVert/Niang/Jerome just because of the cap ramifications.
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Adding McCollum and Ingram to Cleveland's roster would be a questionable move, let alone trading away their two best players to get them.
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Some version of Allen for Ingram makes sense if the Pelicans don’t want to give Ingram the money he will demand.
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No interest in McCollum whatsoever.
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I've got healthy Mitchell as more impactful than healthy Ingram, and Allen as more impactful than CJ, so what is Cleveland's motivation for this trade? Something around Mitchell for Ingram plus, maybe. ZERO interest in the Allen for CJ part.
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