Mehar wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Mehar wrote:You were not clearly suggesting they got rid of the better player, when in your own words you called Teoscar a "Strikeout prone, bad defensive outfielder past his age prime" who they were not going to re-sign or nor they should. That is what I remembered you say, and thanks for confirming that my facts were fine as usual.
I don’t know how many more ways I could have called that trade a salary dump and didn’t even mention Swanson. It’s pretty clear I didn’t like the move at all in a vacuum and was trying to explain it as a costs saving maneuver more than anything else.It might not be in the trade thread, but last year you mentioned it was a good move to get rid of Teoscar for a guy like Swanson, who had control in years and was going to be a high leverage guy for this team alongside Romano. However, the part I did not remember is you talking about salary constraints like the JP days (since Rogers increased payroll in each of last two years). So, maybe you were trying to rationalize the trade in terms of cost savings for ownership at that time. If that was the case, you are not wrong since the team saved 14 million, which was a huge chunk of cash.
Funny, because I distinctly remember saying how much I disliked the trade on multiple occasions and was asking the Jays to bring him back as a free agent about halfway through the year to infuse some power back on the roster.
The Jays also apparently did try to do that this offseason (after trying to trade for him at the deadline) so perhaps they too had misgivings about getting rid of him.
Look at my posts from last summer, and in the beginning of the off-season and I was the main proponent of bringing back Teoscar as a DH, and occasional RF. You did say that you were fine with the idea, so I cannot take that from you.
Can you clowns take this crap to PM's? People don't want to scroll through an entire page of two people arguing back and forth and quoting their quote of a quote of a quote of a quote to get to the actual game comments.