2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3
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Had a dream we got the 3rd pick
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canada_dry wrote:Yea but nash was playing on a literally broken back and noone knew it.
Im high on Reed. But slow down lol
Oh wow, I never heard that before. Nash also came into the league on a Suns team that had KJ and Kidd on it. Hard to get much burn a team with those two in front of you.
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NotMyKawhi wrote:Had a dream we got the 3rd pick
speak it into existence
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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ItsDanger wrote:MainEvent wrote:These guys who watched the nike hoop summit practices and game don't sound too impressed with what they saw from Chomche
@9min
People were pumping this guy up before seeing him against better competition for whatever reason. Now, they see he still has to improve a lot. So, if they take him on as a project, need to work on his game for 2 years probably. I don't see him as a C unless he gets a lot stronger. Not high on these 4/5 types unless it's for the bench.
The measurement thing was weird too, he was 6'9 in shoes one day and 6'11 the next. Everyone gained like 2 inches except for the guy who was already 7'1"
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Psubs wrote:grant101 wrote:Morse Code wrote:I don't get the Salaun hype. What's the draw behind him?
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He's young, has a decent motor, is reasonably athletic, but most of all looks the part of (tall, long, good frame). His shot also looks ok. And, because he's relatively new to the sport, ppl think he'll grow into learning the game... I'm less convinced
If he' grows another inch, he could be a Blake Griffin kind of PF.
Maybe I missed the clips.. PPL keep saying Salaun is a crazy athlete but I haven't really seen it in his highlights.
Good athlete but def not anywhere close to Griffin
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MainEvent wrote:ItsDanger wrote:MainEvent wrote:These guys who watched the nike hoop summit practices and game don't sound too impressed with what they saw from Chomche
@9min
People were pumping this guy up before seeing him against better competition for whatever reason. Now, they see he still has to improve a lot. So, if they take him on as a project, need to work on his game for 2 years probably. I don't see him as a C unless he gets a lot stronger. Not high on these 4/5 types unless it's for the bench.
The measurement thing was weird too, he was 6'9 in shoes one day and 6'11 the next. Everyone gained like 2 inches except for the guy who was already 7'1"
Eye test wise, he looked small relative to the other bigs. I think 6'9 is probably closer to the truth
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God Squad wrote:People are comparing these prospects to literal superstars when I'd be elated with getting a role player.
Same. Watching some great role players elevating their teams this year in the playoffs - Jaden McDaniels, Dereck Lively. We just need to hit on one of these picks to make some strides next year.
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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:NotMyKawhi wrote:Had a dream we got the 3rd pick
speak it into existence
Why not speak the 1st pick into existence?
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Coco Costanza wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:NotMyKawhi wrote:Had a dream we got the 3rd pick
speak it into existence
Why not speak the 1st pick into existence?
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MainEvent wrote:Psubs wrote:grant101 wrote:
He's young, has a decent motor, is reasonably athletic, but most of all looks the part of (tall, long, good frame). His shot also looks ok. And, because he's relatively new to the sport, ppl think he'll grow into learning the game... I'm less convinced
If he' grows another inch, he could be a Blake Griffin kind of PF.
Maybe I missed the clips.. PPL keep saying Salaun is a crazy athlete but I haven't really seen it in his highlights.
Good athlete but def not anywhere close to Griffin
Drafting for size, length, athleticism, and feel should be the priority for us rather than drafting win now talent. Salaun seems to lack feel. The mid range shot he took in game that hit the top of the backboard was really concerning. It's one play but it shows how low his floor is. Since the draft is very weak I could see Masai making that reach at 6.
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Not going to lie. If we got a lotto pick I would be so tempted to draft Rob Dillingham. By far the most entertaining prospect this year who just pops on film. The handle and decision making lead me to think he can be another Kyrie. He is just a fast processor.
Even if the fit with IQ is weird, I'd imagine his game is going to blow up in the NBA with more spacing.
Even if the fit with IQ is weird, I'd imagine his game is going to blow up in the NBA with more spacing.
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Dalek wrote:Not going to lie. If we got a lotto pick I would be so tempted to draft Rob Dillingham. By far the most entertaining prospect this year who just pops on film. The handle and decision making lead me to think he can be another Kyrie. He is just a fast processor.
Even if the fit with IQ is weird, I'd imagine his game is going to blow up in the NBA with more spacing.
I think the Spurs are going to take him. I don't know why but if he pans out, that one-two punch with him and Wemby is going to be a problem in the league for years to come.
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Rob is quite literally the worst fit amongst the consensus "Top 6" of this draft. At least with Topic, you're getting a 6'6 guard who has defensive potential.
Small, negative defender guards generally don't pan out unless they're a 0.1% athlete a la Fox. And we really don't need more bad defenders on the team.
Small, negative defender guards generally don't pan out unless they're a 0.1% athlete a la Fox. And we really don't need more bad defenders on the team.
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Thaddy wrote:MainEvent wrote:Psubs wrote:
If he' grows another inch, he could be a Blake Griffin kind of PF.
Maybe I missed the clips.. PPL keep saying Salaun is a crazy athlete but I haven't really seen it in his highlights.
Good athlete but def not anywhere close to Griffin
Drafting for size, length, athleticism, and feel should be the priority for us rather than drafting win now talent. Salaun seems to lack feel. The mid range shot he took in game that hit the top of the backboard was really concerning. It's one play but it shows how low his floor is. Since the draft is very weak I could see Masai making that reach at 6.
I really hope Ron Holland is still on the board when we're on the clock, assuming we get to keep the pick. If we do keep the pick and he is off the board I would probably consider taking a swing on Cody Williams, move down in the draft to acquire a useful player and more resources or moving the pick to San Antonio in order to extinguisher future pick obligations. For me, unless there's a player up there that other teams are willing to pay up for, I don't really see a guy that's going to make a difference. I like Sheppard and Dillingham objectively but they don't fit what we're doing, Buzelis is okay but I think it'd rather swing on Williams than on him, we don't really need Castle, Topic or Clingan and I've fallen off the Risacher bandwagon.
Later in the draft is where things become interesting for me. At #19, I like Carter, Ware, McCain or Collier (if he falls this far). At #31 I like Jaylon Tyson, Dillon Jones or KJ Simpson, depending on who we took earlier.
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CazOnReal wrote:Rob is quite literally the worst fit amongst the consensus "Top 6" of this draft. At least with Topic, you're getting a 6'6 guard who has defensive potential.
Small, negative defender guards generally don't pan out unless they're a 0.1% athlete a la Fox. And we really don't need more bad defenders on the team.
Yeah but Topic also can't shoot, though I guess if someone has confidence that he could learn, he would be worth the swing. I expect the Spurs to consider him heavily as well. Sheppard too.
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Rapsfan07 wrote:Dalek wrote:Not going to lie. If we got a lotto pick I would be so tempted to draft Rob Dillingham. By far the most entertaining prospect this year who just pops on film. The handle and decision making lead me to think he can be another Kyrie. He is just a fast processor.
Even if the fit with IQ is weird, I'd imagine his game is going to blow up in the NBA with more spacing.
I think the Spurs are going to take him. I don't know why but if he pans out, that one-two punch with him and Wemby is going to be a problem in the league for years to come.
I have my doubts about them wanting Dillingham. They had a test drive of a lot of guards that were offense first - Dejounte Murray, Keldon Johnson, Derrick White, Blake Wesley, Malachi Branham. Only Tre Jones was a pure floor general and he just isn't starter level.
I think Nikola Topic being the guy to run the offense and be the guy keeping this team running will create the pace they want. Dillingham has incredible on-ball speed, but as a playmaker he is pretty vanilla. I'd almost consider Topic their best fit because of him being a jumbo playmaker whose mature game will fit with Wemby and fits the Spurs traditional Euro playstyle better.
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Dalek wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:Dalek wrote:Not going to lie. If we got a lotto pick I would be so tempted to draft Rob Dillingham. By far the most entertaining prospect this year who just pops on film. The handle and decision making lead me to think he can be another Kyrie. He is just a fast processor.
Even if the fit with IQ is weird, I'd imagine his game is going to blow up in the NBA with more spacing.
I think the Spurs are going to take him. I don't know why but if he pans out, that one-two punch with him and Wemby is going to be a problem in the league for years to come.
I have my doubts about them wanting Dillingham. They had a test drive of a lot of guards that were offense first - Dejounte Murray, Keldon Johnson, Derrick White, Blake Wesley, Malachi Branham. Only Tre Jones was a pure floor general and he just isn't starter level.
I think Nikola Topic being the guy to run the offense and be the guy keeping this team running will create the pace they want. Dillingham has incredible on-ball speed, but as a playmaker he is pretty vanilla. I'd almost consider Topic their best fit because of him being a jumbo playmaker whose mature game will fit with Wemby and fits the Spurs traditional Euro playstyle better.
That's also very fair.
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New Givony big board out. Not sure if anyone posted it.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/38788364/2024-nba-draft-rankings-espn-top-25-prospects
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/38788364/2024-nba-draft-rankings-espn-top-25-prospects
With basketball seasons coming to a close around the globe, scouts are flocking to the final games of European prospects to get one last look ahead of the pre-draft process.
Possible No. 1 pick Zaccharie Risacher and his JL Bourg team in France are about to enter the playoffs, while prospects Nikola Topic and Tidjane Salaun are hoping solid late-season runs can help vault them up the draft board.
Most prospects are focused on the pre-draft events coming up in May. The G League Elite Camp will be held May 10-12 and runs into the NBA draft combine (May 12-17) with Chicago playing host to both events.
These pre-draft events will lead to the most movement in the top 25 as scouts get a final look ahead of the NBA draft on June 26-27. But where do the prospects currently stand ahead of Chicago?
Rankings and write-ups last updated: Thursday, May 2.
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Rapsfan07 wrote:CazOnReal wrote:Rob is quite literally the worst fit amongst the consensus "Top 6" of this draft. At least with Topic, you're getting a 6'6 guard who has defensive potential.
Small, negative defender guards generally don't pan out unless they're a 0.1% athlete a la Fox. And we really don't need more bad defenders on the team.
Yeah but Topic also can't shoot, though I guess if someone has confidence that he could learn, he would be worth the swing. I expect the Spurs to consider him heavily as well. Sheppard too.
The one thing I will give Topic is that he's shooting 88% from the line so that is a point in favor of him growing into at least an average NBA shooter. I'm more concerned about his defense/engagement when it comes to his defensive assignments.
I still think that, among the Top 6 if we had our shot at anyone but Sarr - say we end up with the 2nd or 3rd pick and we don't trade down with the Spurs to get our own pick back for example - it should be Zach though there is some recency bias to this (Though I do feel it's worth pointing out that Risacher's slump coincides with a return from a facial injury). Holland is another good option but honestly, outside of Castle and Sarr (and Rob but for the opposite) I don't have very strong feelings about the Top 6.
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Am I alone in thinking Topic has a strange body? It's like all his height is in his neck.
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