His friends suck. We've seen it for years.MVP1992 wrote:If you brought in LeBron, what tampering success could he achieve behind the scenes to stack the roster with role players?
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His friends suck. We've seen it for years.MVP1992 wrote:If you brought in LeBron, what tampering success could he achieve behind the scenes to stack the roster with role players?
Iscull wrote:Sign and trade the tank commander Harris plus picks to the Jazz for Maurkannen would be one of my favorite trades
eyeatoma wrote:sixers hoops wrote:youngcrev wrote:
I'm skeptical that they've got the assets to acquire Bridges or Lauri, if they even end up on the market.
You'd rather have Dejounte Murray than Paul George? I wouldn't even if you factor in the out the assets necessary to acquire him.
You'd still have flexibility to add one or two of your listed elite assets. You'd take an upgraded 7th and 8th man over extreme as your 3rd guy?
Shams reported that the Rockets offered Green and multiple firsts to the Nets for Bridges. They could give Brooklyn their 24 and 26 firsts back, and relinquish the swap options in 25 and 27. Also they could send their own picks in 28 and 30. It looks like the price for Mikal would be very high, and rockets have better picks to offer.
I really don’t want Dejounte.
I imagine the price for Lauri will be all of our picks. I think Ainge will want four or five firsts, or he will send him elsewhere. I don’t see a trade happening there, although certainly possible.
Lauri is the perfect fit. 4 or 5 picks is worth it. We'll still have capspace to fill out the roster.
eyeatoma wrote:End of the game and the Clippers are out...
Paul George's line. 6 for 18, 33.3FG, 2 for 10 from 3, 20%, 11 rebs, 5 assists, 2 stocks, 18 points, -19
Good lord, please don't get him. This team is toast if we blow our wad on him.
Yay he shoots threes and boards. Don't tell me that's why we're getting him. You can get the same thing with Trey Murphy for not even a quarter of the cost.
Wilfried wrote:Iscull wrote:Sign and trade the tank commander Harris plus picks to the Jazz for Maurkannen would be one of my favorite trades
Why would Ainge take Harris? He can get a better player. It's probably Reed + fillers + picks you should offer
Wilfried wrote:Retain Kelly (MLE)
Sign Klay Thompson (3 years, front loaded) - Derick Jones Jr - André Drummond (VET) - Lowry (VET) - Batum (VET)
Give everything from picks + Reed for Markannen
Maxey/Lowry
Klay/Council
Oubre/Jones Jr
Markannen/Batum
Embiid/Drummond
youngcrev wrote:eyeatoma wrote:End of the game and the Clippers are out...
Paul George's line. 6 for 18, 33.3FG, 2 for 10 from 3, 20%, 11 rebs, 5 assists, 2 stocks, 18 points, -19
Good lord, please don't get him. This team is toast if we blow our wad on him.
Yay he shoots threes and boards. Don't tell me that's why we're getting him. You can get the same thing with Trey Murphy for not even a quarter of the cost.
Except you can't get Trey Murphy. He's not available. And he won't be getting paid a quarter of what Paul George gets when he signs his next deal.
PG wouldn't be coming here to be the alpha dog. He's a star impact player with a game that fits like a glove as the third piece with Maxey/Embiid. When they are on the floor he provides secondary creation, elite volume shooting with ability to attack a closeout, all while being able to defend the opposing team's best player. When they are off he has the ability to scale up usage and carry an offense for stretches.
I get him not being the preferred target due to age/injury, which are obvious concerns. I don't get being staunchly against it, particularly in favor of spreading that money between a few 5th-7th men level players.
We're bugging because he's had bad shooting games as the top guy in the playoffs? Tyrese just had the same shooting line in game 6. Are Bruce Brown and Jonas Valanciunas carrying the offense when Embiid and Maxey are off the floor?
youngcrev wrote:eyeatoma wrote:End of the game and the Clippers are out...
Paul George's line. 6 for 18, 33.3FG, 2 for 10 from 3, 20%, 11 rebs, 5 assists, 2 stocks, 18 points, -19
Good lord, please don't get him. This team is toast if we blow our wad on him.
Yay he shoots threes and boards. Don't tell me that's why we're getting him. You can get the same thing with Trey Murphy for not even a quarter of the cost.
Except you can't get Trey Murphy. He's not available. And he won't be getting paid a quarter of what Paul George gets when he signs his next deal.
PG wouldn't be coming here to be the alpha dog. He's a star impact player with a game that fits like a glove as the third piece with Maxey/Embiid. When they are on the floor he provides secondary creation, elite volume shooting with ability to attack a closeout, all while being able to defend the opposing team's best player. When they are off he has the ability to scale up usage and carry an offense for stretches.
I get him not being the preferred target due to age/injury, which are obvious concerns. I don't get being staunchly against it, particularly in favor of spreading that money between a few 5th-7th men level players.
We're bugging because he's had bad shooting games as the top guy in the playoffs? Tyrese just had the same shooting line in game 6. Are Bruce Brown and Jonas Valanciunas carrying the offense when Embiid and Maxey are off the floor?
youngcrev wrote:eyeatoma wrote:End of the game and the Clippers are out...
Paul George's line. 6 for 18, 33.3FG, 2 for 10 from 3, 20%, 11 rebs, 5 assists, 2 stocks, 18 points, -19
Good lord, please don't get him. This team is toast if we blow our wad on him.
Yay he shoots threes and boards. Don't tell me that's why we're getting him. You can get the same thing with Trey Murphy for not even a quarter of the cost.
Except you can't get Trey Murphy. He's not available. And he won't be getting paid a quarter of what Paul George gets when he signs his next deal.
PG wouldn't be coming here to be the alpha dog. He's a star impact player with a game that fits like a glove as the third piece with Maxey/Embiid. When they are on the floor he provides secondary creation, elite volume shooting with ability to attack a closeout, all while being able to defend the opposing team's best player. When they are off he has the ability to scale up usage and carry an offense for stretches.
I get him not being the preferred target due to age/injury, which are obvious concerns. I don't get being staunchly against it, particularly in favor of spreading that money between a few 5th-7th men level players.
We're bugging because he's had bad shooting games as the top guy in the playoffs? Tyrese just had the same shooting line in game 6. Are Bruce Brown and Jonas Valanciunas carrying the offense when Embiid and Maxey are off the floor?
I think overpaying in a trade for Markkanen is one of their best options. You get an all star that fits the team and still have about $50M (including MLE) to spend on the playoff rotation. To me it's better than the other realistic options I can think of.sixers hoops wrote:eyeatoma wrote:sixers hoops wrote:
Shams reported that the Rockets offered Green and multiple firsts to the Nets for Bridges. They could give Brooklyn their 24 and 26 firsts back, and relinquish the swap options in 25 and 27. Also they could send their own picks in 28 and 30. It looks like the price for Mikal would be very high, and rockets have better picks to offer.
I really don’t want Dejounte.
I imagine the price for Lauri will be all of our picks. I think Ainge will want four or five firsts, or he will send him elsewhere. I don’t see a trade happening there, although certainly possible.
Lauri is the perfect fit. 4 or 5 picks is worth it. We'll still have capspace to fill out the roster.
If Ainge gouged us for:
2024 PHL first
2026 OKC/Hou/ first
2026 LAC first
2029 PHL first
2031 PHL first
I’m extremely confident we can get him, but it seems like a horrible deal. We already traded our 2025 and 2027 first. And after this draft, we don’t have a second rounder until 2029, I believe. We are essentially Phoenix East, which is not good. And they bankrupted their team for Kevin Durant. We are doing it for Lauri Markkanen.
However, I could see a scenario where we can build a championship team since Lauri makes 1/3 of what Butler or George would cost. If Mikal could be had for our 2024 first and the two picks we got in the Harden deal, I would prob do that. Then we are only short two future firsts.
I believe Melton has serious medical concerns so I wouldn’t put any real money his way. Oubre is a really good player, but not somebody you want to lock in with a high annual value. His mistakes and inconsistency are fine at $12 million, but sickening if he is making over $25 million.
Ultimately, if we dished out a bunch of picks for Lauri or Mikal, I would want to know that we have another impact starter lined up with the cap space, or otherwise we are going all in with Embiid, Maxey, and Lauri/Mikal, which isn’t good enough, in my opinion.
stormi wrote:For the Embiid + Maxey + depth crowd, I'd be looking to take advantage of bad FO's that have undervalued young roleplayers that could thrive in advanced situations (White in SA, Gordon in ORL)
Deni Avdija in Washington: plus defender, 6'9, 37% from 3, plus rebounder, 23 years old
Pat Williams in Chicago: plus wing defender, 6'8 (7' wingspan), 39.9% from 3, secondary rim protection, elite athlete, 22 years old
FireMorey wrote:I don't think Markkanen is a guy you give everything up for. He's not Luka Doncic. Giving up 5 firsts for him would be pretty crazy. I think Klay is pretty washed up too. Unfortunately, not a ton of great options. Of course the summer the Sixers have cap space is a weak free agent class with not a ton of stars available.
sixers hoops wrote:FireMorey wrote:I don't think Markkanen is a guy you give everything up for. He's not Luka Doncic. Giving up 5 firsts for him would be pretty crazy. I think Klay is pretty washed up too. Unfortunately, not a ton of great options. Of course the summer the Sixers have cap space is a weak free agent class with not a ton of stars available.
I hold onto first rounders pretty tight, so trading 4 or 5 picks for guys who aren’t superstars seems crazy. At the same time, there are no superstars right now. The prime Kawhi and prime George trades aren’t out there right now. Ideally, an Anthony Edwards, Shai, Giannis, Doncic no-brainer trade would be the return for five firsts, but in reality, your entire draft board doesn’t get you a top 15 player in this market. It gets you more of a borderline all-star type of guy. Not an easy decision for Morey. He is going to have to overpay in free agency or trade, if he doesn’t want to punt another season.