2024 NBA Playoffs Round 1 Game 7: (5) Orlando Magic at (4) Cleveland Cavaliers - Series Tied 3-3

[Knightro]

please, for the love of God, let’s stop being prisoners of the moment.

Franz and Suggs had very bad games today. But sometimes that happens when young guys get their first taste of the game seven.

They each had GREAT games within this very series, ya know?

[thelead]

This flat out ridiculous to put Suggs in this. That guy busted his ass all series he had to guard Mitchell and chase garland around.

LOL. I’m one of his biggest fans I definitely understand his defensive impact but we cannot just give him a ridiculous contract because we love his effort. I would LOVE for him to be worth a max or near max contract but he’s not. We absolutely can’t lose him either. We just need to be smart about his, and Franz’, contracts.

I love Suggs and the magic do need him but can’t imagine giving a 3D player max money.

I don’t think that’s even in the world of possibilities but I also don’t think that his contract should even be close to that. Herb Jones’ contract should be the starting point of negotiations IMO.

[ogmagicfan]

It was all 4 road games though. They were absolutely atrocious offensively on the road.

This flat out ridiculous to put Suggs in this. That guy busted his ass all series he had to guard Mitchell and chase garland around.

LOL. I’m one of his biggest fans I definitely understand his defensive impact but we cannot just give him a ridiculous contract because we love his effort. I would LOVE for him to be worth a max or near max contract but he’s not. We absolutely can’t lose him either. We just need to be smart about his, and Franz’, contracts.

McDaniels got the contract he got because he's a defensive forward and can guard 1-4

Defensive guards dont get comparable contracts, go ahead and check the contracts Alex Caruso & Marcus Smart got. This is because they have less flexbility in guarding positions and impact as forwards/bigs

Suggs will probably get 17.5-22.5 mil

[Fortune Teller]

I can’t believe we went into this season with no real PG and a starting shooting guard who literally doesn’t shoot. It’s shocking they made it this far but if you keep running this nonsense back Paolo will bolt.

[JF5]

He's not a terrible player, just not the kind I prefer. A strong rim protector solves so many problems for any team, even more so for a young team.

How many of the elite teams have protection like that though. It's nice to have but it's overrated (IMO). Especially when it's about rotational defense/man defense in the 3 ball era.

The elite teams have elite players, we don't. That's why I say it helps young teams even more to have help behind them. If JI could stay healthy, and in the rotation, he could help out a lot there. Who knows what his future is.

That doesnt make any sense... the defense is already elite with Wendell (Top 5). So I don't know what else needs to change defensively.

Also, the players aren't elite because they're still young and they need a few years to get there (offensively at least). The offense was bottom 10 all year. THAT needs to be fixed.

[SloNick Russia]

Durant made playoff only in his 3rd season and went 2-4 in a series. We are well ahead of schedule, just enjoy the ride.

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[FFBlitzace]

Of course it's disappointing to lose in the heat of the moment, but it was a great season and a good first round performance given our newbie status. I'm not mad, I think we showed a lot. Now we just need to acquire some offensive talent this offseason, it's pretty simple.

[Bensational]

We almost won a playoff series with a core of 3 players 22 or younger and despite our guards giving us barely any playmaking all series and the roster badly lacking in reliable 3 point shooting.

I don't get the doom and gloom. If we had someone Mike Conley - a reliable vet playmaker who can also shoot well from 3 - we would have won this series comfortably.

I was so disappointed to see Conley extend in Minnesota. Would’ve been perfect here.

I’m not doom and gloom, but very much still stuck in the frustration of the play of some of our guys tonight. But knowing how competitive there is I don’t think it needs harping on too much about it.

[Optimus_Steel]

We are paying Franz and Suggs. I hope those saying not to find another team when it happens.

Don’t be losers.

For those who trash Franz now just relax and watch Game 4.

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Correct, he was good in a non-elimination game at home that was a blowout.

What does that mean? Franz was the reason that was a blowout win.

[thelead]

This flat out ridiculous to put Suggs in this. That guy busted his ass all series he had to guard Mitchell and chase garland around.

LOL. I’m one of his biggest fans I definitely understand his defensive impact but we cannot just give him a ridiculous contract because we love his effort. I would LOVE for him to be worth a max or near max contract but he’s not. We absolutely can’t lose him either. We just need to be smart about his, and Franz’, contracts.

McDaniels got the contract he got because he's a defensive forward and can guard 1-4

Defensive guards dont get comparable contracts, go ahead and check the contracts Alex Caruso & Marcus Smart got. This is because they have less flexbility in guarding positions and impact as forwards/bigs

Suggs will probably get 17.5-22.5 mil

Fully agree. Point is, if we manage our cap correctly, we should be in GREAT shape moving forward if the FO can muster an iota of courage this summer to grab impactful players.

[BlueBlazer]

please, for the love of God, let’s stop being prisoners of the moment.

Franz and Suggs had very bad games today. But sometimes that happens when young guys get their first taste of the game seven.

They each had GREAT games within this very series, ya know?

In a way it’s nice that the sting of losing is back, having been numb to it for so long

[ibraheim718]

You have your opinion, not a monopol on reality, man.

It's an opinion that he's 22????

He is playing his 3rd season and is turning 23 shortly. Compare him to most star players at this point of their career and tell me what you see.

I'll ask you once before I make you look like a fool. Are you sure you want to open this door? I think you need to do some research not me.

[OrlandoNed]

Listen, I'm not going to go too far with the Franz stuff and suggest he's not a core piece now. But if you're not seriously questioning whether he is a second or third option after this series, I don't know what to tell you.

He shot 19% from three after the All-Star break. We saw an entire year of a different player, this was not a one-off series.

Solely banking on internal development and Franz working on his shot all summer when he will be giving his best basketball to his national team again would be a disastrous bet for Weltman this summer. We've got to be strategically aggressive to improve.

He proved today that he is nowhere close to Paolo’s level. He and Suggs showed that they might be better off as 4th and 5th options.

[Optimus_Steel]

I am not going to be too negative, but I think this is this team's ceiling as is. I don't know what to suggest or how they get better. Paolo will get smarter about turnovers, Suggs will get less streaky with the 3, Franz maybe learns a few new moves. But that still isn't enough to get into the finals or win one. Don't see a player that works outside of maybe Ant Edwards. Will be an interesting off season.

What? Lol

[The-Stallion70]

You have your opinion, not a monopol on reality, man.

It's an opinion that he's 22????

He is playing his 3rd season and is turning 23 shortly. Compare him to most star players at this point of their career and tell me what you see.

You must be a happy man tearing down the Magic's second best player on an online forum on a sunny Sunday afternoon.

Good day to you bossman!!

[Optimus_Steel]

Franz shot 26% from 3 in the post season and 28% in regular season. Close to the worst in the entire NBA. It's gotta be his main focus.

The guy has great touch from FT and around the basket he will figure it out

He also has a track record of first two years being ot better from 3. He will get it back.

[Rainwater]

You are totally cringe.

No, Franz being the worst shooter in Game 7 history is cringe. 3/28 shooting from your #2 and #3 guys is cringe.

PB didn't shoot well either, it just wasn't as noticeable given how poorly others played. Nobody really played well, which is expected from a young team in a game 7. PB at least got to the line, which your top players need to do, so that's a plus.

Paolo is the only reason the Magic were in the game. Paolo was forced to take shots because nobody else could do anything. Any Paolo slander today is just ridiculous to me.

[JT3000]

Franz was never billed as a first or second option coming out of college and i still do not see it.

We need to go find a second option this summer and let Franz fall in to a more defined role as a Swiss army knife for us.

He's looking like a Swiss army knife with all the tools removed.

Franz is amazing. Let’s not be idiots. I get everyone is upset.

1-15 is amazing alright.

[RichCollab]

please, for the love of God, let’s stop being prisoners of the moment.

Franz and Suggs had very bad games today. But sometimes that happens when young guys get their first taste of the game seven.

They each had GREAT games within this very series, ya know?

Preach brother.

[RichCollab]

He's looking like a Swiss army knife with all the tools removed.

Franz is amazing. Let’s not be idiots. I get everyone is upset.

1-15 is amazing alright.

Franz played like crap on offense. Mobley is the perfect architect to defend him.

Criticism is fine. But don’t say he isn’t key to our core or future. This happens 3 series in a row, sure.