DusterBuster wrote:Norm2953 wrote:I would think Orlando would trade Paolo before Wagner
That’s insane. You must not watch much Magic.
Most likely neither would be moved unless one of them is a real ******* off the court
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DusterBuster wrote:Norm2953 wrote:I would think Orlando would trade Paolo before Wagner
That’s insane. You must not watch much Magic.
Norm2953 wrote:The trade with the Magic would be for Anthony Black and perhaps one of their 2025 FRP.
zzaj wrote:Norm2953 wrote:The trade with the Magic would be for Anthony Black and perhaps one of their 2025 FRP.
If the Magic board is to be believed, they have their sights set on Malik Monk. A Simons/Black trade wouldn't go over well with their fanbase.
BlazersBroncos wrote:zzaj wrote:Norm2953 wrote:The trade with the Magic would be for Anthony Black and perhaps one of their 2025 FRP.
If the Magic board is to be believed, they have their sights set on Malik Monk. A Simons/Black trade wouldn't go over well with their fanbase.
Fanbases always prefer to get the FA and keep their assets, but in reality thats not always the case.
Also think Monk is in a really good spot to get overpaid - I wouldnt touch him at 25M AV but I can see a team throwing that out there with this crap FA class.
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HoopsFanAZ wrote:Hey, Orlando. Sorry you lost. Ant looks good for you!
Nyce_1 wrote:HoopsFanAZ wrote:Hey, Orlando. Sorry you lost. Ant looks good for you!
Yo yo....realistically, what are you hoping to receive in a Ant deal? And don't tell me Suggs or Wagner. Ant is a nice player, but a much MUCH worse defender. His negative value on that side of the ball would really affect our identity if he were obtained.
Nyce_1 wrote:HoopsFanAZ wrote:Hey, Orlando. Sorry you lost. Ant looks good for you!
Yo yo....realistically, what are you hoping to receive in a Ant deal? And don't tell me Suggs or Wagner. Ant is a nice player, but a much MUCH worse defender. His negative value on that side of the ball would really affect our identity if he were obtained.
Walton1one wrote:Isaac & Carter Jr + 25' 1st (POR choice) and a 2025 2nd (POR choice) & ONE of 28/29/30 1st (via ORL) for Simons & Thybulle.
Walton1one wrote:IMO, Isaac has little valuation, FA next year, he is only in there for the salary
tester551 wrote:This is where it all falls apart.
You are valuing Isaac based on your perceptions... Completely ignoring how the Magic front office and coaching views Isaac.
Also, he's not needed to be included in the trade. If you don't value him - cut him out of the trade & then it would be much closer.
Walton1one wrote:tester551 wrote:This is where it all falls apart.
You are valuing Isaac based on your perceptions... Completely ignoring how the Magic front office and coaching views Isaac.
Also, he's not needed to be included in the trade. If you don't value him - cut him out of the trade & then it would be much closer.
Appreciate the opinion, but I can't imagine they value him that greatly, I think that is a huge stretch.
He turns 27 this year and has played over 60 games once in his career, he averaged under 16min a game this year and is being paid $17mil....Career averages of 8pts & 5 boards (averaged 7 & 5 this year), that is not the definition of a critical rotation piece.
That being said, sure the deal could not involve him, these are just ideas.
Could be Simons & Thybulle for WC and Joe Ingles & 25 1st & a couple (2-3?) 2nd round picks, still think that is a little light
HoopsFanAZ wrote:I’ve recently joined the Simons for Black trade supporters after looking at the Magic more closely. Simons is “win now” and young-ish and Orlando is exactly that after not being good for long enough. Portland can develop Black as a multi-position dude. No rush. His size, D, and versatility make up for probably never being a 20 point guy … AND Simons already is that volume scorer.
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