JayTWill wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Good points here. Randle for Herro feels like the natural trade, though with DDV emerging it might not be. Otherwise it would have to be pick and prospect centric, e.g., Robinson, Jovic, filler, a 1st or 2.
It's funny because I actually thought of the Jazz as a 3rd team. Herro would be fine on the Knicks but I don't like the idea of investing that much money into a small guard that is a poor fit defensively next to Brunson.
I know there is no possible way to come to an agreement on this board with how highly many Knicks fans value Randle and how highly Jazz fans value Lauri but I love the idea of a building a 26-27 year old core of Brunson, OG, Lauri and iHart while still maintaining the flexibility to add another piece. Maybe something like
Miami out - Herro, Robinson + ?
Miami in - Randle, Clarkson
Utah out - Lauri, Clarkson, Collns
Utah in - Herro, Duncan, Bogdanovic + ? assets from Knicks and Heat
New York out - Randle, Bogdanovic + ?
New York in - Lauri, Collins
Obviously this only happens if the Jazz decide to tank from the beginning of the season and for some reason Lauri doesn't want to extend with the team. Unfortunately i'm not sure if the Knicks or Heat have any high value assets to make this interesting for the Jazz. The 2025 top 4 protected Bucks pick is interesting because of how fragile that team. The Knicks have other picks of varying value as do the Heat.
The Heat shake things up a bit for a year or two to make a push for a championship but still keep the ability to pivot to the post Butler years while shaving at least 4 million off of their cap number.
The Jazz would tank for the year. I actually think Robinson and Herro would look great in the Jazz system. Not impactful enough to win many games but Robinson could be pumped and dumped for extra value while Herro is young enough to be kept around during the rebuild where they could choose to move him, George or Sexton at a later time. Bogey would just be salary filler used to dump Collins contract.
For the Knicks they would have a core group of players that should not decline in the next 4-5 years health permitting creating a window of time for them to compete and look to improve in other areas. Collins contract could be used with other assets to find a second creator or at least a bigger 2 guard to pair with Brunson. They might even have time to possibly draft and develop the missing piece before the window of the core closes.
It's just part of my off-season fantasy for the Knicks but thinking about the gap between the Lauri valuation and the Randle valuation on this board mixed in with a little Knicks-Heat rivalry makes me realize I just wasted time typing all of this.