Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[WargamesX]

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So next season we're rolling with:

Brunson | McBride
Butler | DDV/Hart
Anunoby
Randle | Achiuwa
Hartenstein | Sims

I could get on board with that...Bogey + Mitch + DDV/Hart/Deuce + some picks?

Not a fan of Pat but he’s right…. Is it wrong in expected him to sound like Adrian Brody

Winning time was such a gem, I wish they had got that 3rd season.

[KnixinSix]

All depends on position. We developed Deuce and we haven't made a real draft pick in ages so we don't have anyone behind him really...

McBride also really is not a point guard. He is much like Caruso. Both guys CAN start for a winning team, but only if the other 4 guys are THAT good.

We can't afford to lose him, but he is more valuable to us than other teams so I think we will keep him even if it costs us extra picks.

Deuce is an excellent combo guard & pair mate to Garland if they be losing Mitchell. He is on a great contract. Bogey would be salary filler and can still shoot. Rights to Rokas , Sims and Four first round picks will round out the package.

I could see that. If we are adding another small guard, then we'd have to send one out.
Can't really give playing time to JB, DDV, Spida AND McBuckets.

Makes no sense to keep McBride with DDV Spida Brunson and Hart all deserving big minutes at 1 or 2 or both.

[spree8]

Deuce is an excellent combo guard & pair mate to Garland if they be losing Mitchell. He is on a great contract. Bogey would be salary filler and can still shoot. Rights to Rokas , Sims and Four first round picks will round out the package.

I could see that. If we are adding another small guard, then we'd have to send one out.
Can't really give playing time to JB, DDV, Spida AND McBuckets.

Makes no sense to keep McBride with DDV Spida Brunson and Hart all deserving big minutes at 1 or 2 or both.

Brunson (33) | Deuce (15)
Mitchell (33) | DDV (15)
OG (17) | Hart (23) | DDV (8)
Randle (32) | OG (13) | Hart (3)


During the season fully healthy:

Brunson: 33 mpg
Mitchell: 33 mpg
Randle: 32 mpg
OG: 30 mpg

Hart 26 mpg
DDV 23 mpg
Deuce 15 mpg (7 mins straight end of 1st/3rd and start of 2nd/4th

..Is still good, then we gotta worry about injuries and the fact Julius is coming back from surgery which is even more PT for those 3. I know OG plays more than 30 mpg, but he prob shouldn’t…

[KnixinSix]

I could see that. If we are adding another small guard, then we'd have to send one out.
Can't really give playing time to JB, DDV, Spida AND McBuckets.

Makes no sense to keep McBride with DDV Spida Brunson and Hart all deserving big minutes at 1 or 2 or both.

Brunson (33) | Deuce (15)
Mitchell (33) | DDV (15)
OG (17) | Hart (23) | DDV (8)
Randle (32) | OG (13) | Hart (3)


During the season fully healthy:

Brunson: 33 mpg
Mitchell: 33 mpg
Randle: 32 mpg
OG: 30 mpg

Hart 26 mpg
DDV 23 mpg
Deuce 15 mpg (7 mins straight end of 1st/3rd and start of 2nd/4th

..Is still good, then we gotta worry about injuries and the fact Julius is coming back from surgery which is even more PT for those 3. I know OG plays more than 30 mpg, but he prob shouldn’t…

Cavs are going to want at least ONE good young player bro. And considering we would have to try hard just to get him 15 min, its worth sending him somewhere we he would get 25+ minutes a game.

I don't want to lose McBride either. But a guy like McBride should not ever get in the way of us getting an absolute stud elite two way player to complement Brunson in the backcourt.

Truthfully Id rather give them DDV but very doubtful they would break up the band for Brunson. Its most likely McBride.

[Besart19]

nobody wants to admit it but we're probably gonna have to trade one of the nova boys if we're going to go all-in on winning a championship

Bogdanovic, Sims and 4 picks for Bridges

Robinson / Hart
Randle / Achiuwa
Anunoby / Hart
Bridges / Donte
Brunson / McBride / Rokas

Still a tax payer MLE and BAE available for 2-4 other veterans to be added

[Capn'O]

I can't stop watching that Riley clip. He's so damn cold.

[aggo]

nobody wants to admit it but we're probably gonna have to trade one of the nova boys if we're going to go all-in on winning a championship

Bogdanovic, Sims and 4 picks for Bridges

Robinson / Hart
Randle / Achiuwa
Anunoby / Hart
Bridges / Donte
Brunson / McBride / Rokas

Still a tax payer MLE and BAE available for 2-4 other veterans to be added

I dont think you trade 4 frps for a guy thats not a star


in fact, the last time someone traded 4 frps and worked is never.


maybe it will work if Minnesota wins a championship this year.

[Besart19]

nobody wants to admit it but we're probably gonna have to trade one of the nova boys if we're going to go all-in on winning a championship

Bogdanovic, Sims and 4 picks for Bridges

Robinson / Hart
Randle / Achiuwa
Anunoby / Hart
Bridges / Donte
Brunson / McBride / Rokas

Still a tax payer MLE and BAE available for 2-4 other veterans to be added

I dont think you trade 4 frps for a guy thats not a star


in fact, the last time someone traded 4 frps and worked is never.


maybe it will work if Minnesota wins a championship this year.

3 of those picks are not lottery ones

Also Mitchell, George, Booker all in play this summer

[nykballa2k4]

Makes no sense to keep McBride with DDV Spida Brunson and Hart all deserving big minutes at 1 or 2 or both.

Brunson (33) | Deuce (15)
Mitchell (33) | DDV (15)
OG (17) | Hart (23) | DDV (8)
Randle (32) | OG (13) | Hart (3)


During the season fully healthy:

Brunson: 33 mpg
Mitchell: 33 mpg
Randle: 32 mpg
OG: 30 mpg

Hart 26 mpg
DDV 23 mpg
Deuce 15 mpg (7 mins straight end of 1st/3rd and start of 2nd/4th

..Is still good, then we gotta worry about injuries and the fact Julius is coming back from surgery which is even more PT for those 3. I know OG plays more than 30 mpg, but he prob shouldn’t…

Cavs are going to want at least ONE good young player bro. And considering we would have to try hard just to get him 15 min, its worth sending him somewhere we he would get 25+ minutes a game.

I don't want to lose McBride either. But a guy like McBride should not ever get in the way of us getting an absolute stud elite two way player to complement Brunson in the backcourt.

Truthfully Id rather give them DDV but very doubtful they would break up the band for Brunson. Its most likely McBride.

I still don't think we need to bend over backwards for Spida. THB, I don't know what he really does for our team because he and Brunson would be redundant and does not address the bigger need of having 4-5 offensive threats on the court at the same time. We right now go out there with Mitch-OG-Hart-DDV-Brunson so basically 2.5 guys you have to guard. I think most teams are content with Hart and OG taking open 3's (except for OG from the corner). Spida does not change that math. If we can get him 'cheap' great. Otherwise we gotta focus on another position IMO.

[Meat]

Brunson (33) | Deuce (15)
Mitchell (33) | DDV (15)
OG (17) | Hart (23) | DDV (8)
Randle (32) | OG (13) | Hart (3)


During the season fully healthy:

Brunson: 33 mpg
Mitchell: 33 mpg
Randle: 32 mpg
OG: 30 mpg

Hart 26 mpg
DDV 23 mpg
Deuce 15 mpg (7 mins straight end of 1st/3rd and start of 2nd/4th

..Is still good, then we gotta worry about injuries and the fact Julius is coming back from surgery which is even more PT for those 3. I know OG plays more than 30 mpg, but he prob shouldn’t…

Cavs are going to want at least ONE good young player bro. And considering we would have to try hard just to get him 15 min, its worth sending him somewhere we he would get 25+ minutes a game.

I don't want to lose McBride either. But a guy like McBride should not ever get in the way of us getting an absolute stud elite two way player to complement Brunson in the backcourt.

Truthfully Id rather give them DDV but very doubtful they would break up the band for Brunson. Its most likely McBride.

I still don't think we need to bend over backwards for Spida. THB, I don't know what he really does for our team because he and Brunson would be redundant and does not address the bigger need of having 4-5 offensive threats on the court at the same time. We right now go out there with Mitch-OG-Hart-DDV-Brunson so basically 2.5 guys you have to guard. I think most teams are content with Hart and OG taking open 3's (except for OG from the corner). Spida does not change that math. If we can get him 'cheap' great. Otherwise we gotta focus on another position IMO.

Umm
Ihart
Randle
Og
Mitchell
Brunson

[KnixinSix]

Brunson (33) | Deuce (15)
Mitchell (33) | DDV (15)
OG (17) | Hart (23) | DDV (8)
Randle (32) | OG (13) | Hart (3)


During the season fully healthy:

Brunson: 33 mpg
Mitchell: 33 mpg
Randle: 32 mpg
OG: 30 mpg

Hart 26 mpg
DDV 23 mpg
Deuce 15 mpg (7 mins straight end of 1st/3rd and start of 2nd/4th

..Is still good, then we gotta worry about injuries and the fact Julius is coming back from surgery which is even more PT for those 3. I know OG plays more than 30 mpg, but he prob shouldn’t…

Cavs are going to want at least ONE good young player bro. And considering we would have to try hard just to get him 15 min, its worth sending him somewhere we he would get 25+ minutes a game.

I don't want to lose McBride either. But a guy like McBride should not ever get in the way of us getting an absolute stud elite two way player to complement Brunson in the backcourt.

Truthfully Id rather give them DDV but very doubtful they would break up the band for Brunson. Its most likely McBride.

I still don't think we need to bend over backwards for Spida. THB, I don't know what he really does for our team because he and Brunson would be redundant and does not address the bigger need of having 4-5 offensive threats on the court at the same time. We right now go out there with Mitch-OG-Hart-DDV-Brunson so basically 2.5 guys you have to guard. I think most teams are content with Hart and OG taking open 3's (except for OG from the corner). Spida does not change that math. If we can get him 'cheap' great. Otherwise we gotta focus on another position IMO.

Spidah changes PLENTY of other math that adds up to a significantly better team with him as a backcourt mate to Brunson.

[KnixinSix]

Cavs are going to want at least ONE good young player bro. And considering we would have to try hard just to get him 15 min, its worth sending him somewhere we he would get 25+ minutes a game.

I don't want to lose McBride either. But a guy like McBride should not ever get in the way of us getting an absolute stud elite two way player to complement Brunson in the backcourt.

Truthfully Id rather give them DDV but very doubtful they would break up the band for Brunson. Its most likely McBride.

I still don't think we need to bend over backwards for Spida. THB, I don't know what he really does for our team because he and Brunson would be redundant and does not address the bigger need of having 4-5 offensive threats on the court at the same time. We right now go out there with Mitch-OG-Hart-DDV-Brunson so basically 2.5 guys you have to guard. I think most teams are content with Hart and OG taking open 3's (except for OG from the corner). Spida does not change that math. If we can get him 'cheap' great. Otherwise we gotta focus on another position IMO.

Umm
Ihart
Randle
Og
Mitchell
Brunson

EXACTLY.

Mitchell Robinson (28), Precious (20)
Randle (33) , OG (15)
OG (20), Hart(20), DDV (8)
Spidah (22), Hart (10), DDV(16)
Brunson (36), Spidah (12)


Spidah and Brunson on court together 22 minutes.

Brunson on court with Hart or DDV for 14 minutes

Of the 22 minutes of Brunson/Spidah on court together. Brunson plays 5-10 minutes more off ball saving extra wear and tear on body. No more non stop blitzes and doubles on Brunson with Spidah out there.

Spidah as the 1 the 12 or so minutes Brunson on the bench.

[Knick4Real]

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So next season we're rolling with:

Brunson | McBride
Butler | DDV/Hart
Anunoby
Randle | Achiuwa
Hartenstein | Sims

I could get on board with that...Bogey + Mitch + DDV/Hart/Deuce + some picks?

Not a fan of Pat but he’s right…. Is it wrong in expected him to sound like Adrian Brody

Winning time was such a gem, I wish they had got that 3rd season.

Jimmy Butler is a clown. I'm glad Pat the Rat put him in his place!!

[HopelessKnick]

With Randle back next season our bench will be:

McBride, Josh Hart, Bojan, Mitch, Precious.

I mean seriously guys: in what world is that not a really really really good bench? Offense, defense....you got it all.

The most likely scenario has us turning Bojan's contract and a pick or two into maybe a more bonafide bench scorer/borderline starter.

[KnixinSix]

With Randle back next season our bench will be:

McBride, Josh Hart, Bojan, Mitch, Precious.

I mean seriously guys: in what world is that not a really really really good bench? Offense, defense....you got it all.

The most likely scenario has us turning Bojan's contract and a pick or two into maybe a more bonafide bench scorer/borderline starter.

Knicks are going to use their treasure trove of assets to improve and deepen the roster next year. Brunson is getting beat down every single game. The bench is getting thoroughly outscored.

Dono Mitchey might very well be the most available solution that makes the most sense. The other guy who will most definitely be available is DeJounte. But I think Knicks righly consider Dono the better asset. These playoffs are only solidifying that. He is to the Cavs what Brunson is to the Knicks (just on a slightly lower level). Also Thibs wants guys who can execute his defense with quick reaction time because of a high awareness/basketball IQ.

Donovan Mitchell has that. Fournier did not. Cam Reddish did not.

[Wildcat]

With Randle back next season our bench will be:

McBride, Josh Hart, Bojan, Mitch, Precious.

I mean seriously guys: in what world is that not a really really really good bench? Offense, defense....you got it all.

The most likely scenario has us turning Bojan's contract and a pick or two into maybe a more bonafide bench scorer/borderline starter.

I agree. Knicks have a decent bench once everyone's healthy as is. I think Precious might get a decent contract elsewhere, though. I prefer retooling the bench. Our starting 5 with Randle can compete with anyone.

[HerSports85]

If we can’t get Mikal, I want Bruce brown this offseason

[sol537]

1) We'll probably re-sign iHart and OG; Precious a goner
2) We may run it back one more season with Randle at the PF
3) A bench of Mitch, Hart, and McBride is quite good still
4) Bogs & picks will be dangled for a guy like Mikal
5) We'll probably draft only 1 or 2 3&D swing men and then trade the 3rd pick or pick a euro "stash" player

iHart / Randle / OG / DDV / Brunson
Bench: Mitch, Hart, McBride w/ Bogs as trade bait at the deadline. 2-3 rookies for extra depth.

Seems like this plan fits the front office's MO...

[nykballa2k4]

I still don't think we need to bend over backwards for Spida. THB, I don't know what he really does for our team because he and Brunson would be redundant and does not address the bigger need of having 4-5 offensive threats on the court at the same time. We right now go out there with Mitch-OG-Hart-DDV-Brunson so basically 2.5 guys you have to guard. I think most teams are content with Hart and OG taking open 3's (except for OG from the corner). Spida does not change that math. If we can get him 'cheap' great. Otherwise we gotta focus on another position IMO.

Umm
Ihart
Randle
Og
Mitchell
Brunson

EXACTLY.

Mitchell Robinson (28), Precious (20)
Randle (33) , OG (15)
OG (20), Hart(20), DDV (8)
Spidah (22), Hart (10), DDV(16)
Brunson (36), Spidah (12)


Spidah and Brunson on court together 22 minutes.

Brunson on court with Hart or DDV for 14 minutes

Of the 22 minutes of Brunson/Spidah on court together. Brunson plays 5-10 minutes more off ball saving extra wear and tear on body. No more non stop blitzes and doubles on Brunson with Spidah out there.

Spidah as the 1 the 12 or so minutes Brunson on the bench.

We don't know which Randle we will see...

[nykballa2k4]

1) We'll probably re-sign iHart and OG; Precious a goner
2) We may run it back one more season with Randle at the PF
3) A bench of Mitch, Hart, and McBride is quite good still
4) Bogs & picks will be dangled for a guy like Mikal
5) We'll probably draft only 1 or 2 3&D swing men and then trade the 3rd pick or pick a euro "stash" player

iHart / Randle / OG / DDV / Brunson
Bench: Mitch, Hart, McBride w/ Bogs as trade bait at the deadline. 2-3 rookies for extra depth.

Seems like this plan fits the front office's MO...

IMO iHart is gone because there are teams that can pay him much more than we can. IMO OG and Precious are the obvious re-signs. If iHart wants to sign a team-friendly deal, then I see us trading Mitch to a team like the Pelicans who would give us value.