Castle Black wrote:Wemby robbed I fear.
Spurs as a team were in 20s for defensive ranking while winning 22 games. Other than rookie of the year, the major awards rarely go to guys on lottery teams.
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Castle Black wrote:Wemby robbed I fear.
wemby wrote:brutalitops wrote:wemby wrote:Agreed. Watched the TWolves, their defense is suffocating, made the defending champs look like amateurs, you can't deny his contribution. Oh, wait, that's right... HE DIDN'T EVEN PLAY
So he's a worse defender now because the nuggets sucked last night? Charlotte scored more then 80 against us when Rudy played. Maybe use that as an argument why Rudy isn't a good defender
Clown take.
The Nuggets didn't suck, they were eaten alive by the Timberwolves WITHOUT their "best defender". Puts into context how important Gobert is in Minnesota, which debunks the whole argument that he should be the DPOY because he's the best defender on the best defensive team, which is the justification behind a lot of the Gobert votes. Now THAT's a clown take.
BlacJacMac wrote:The right call. And I get so tired of people equating just number of blocks to quality of defense:
Gobert ranked sixth in the league with 2.1 blocked shots per game and limited opponents to 45.2% effective field goal percentage, the lowest among 38 players to contest at least 1,000 shots, according to Second Spectrum data. He ranked fourth in defensive rebounds with 9.2 per game.
His presence also served as a major deterrent. According to Second Spectrum, opponents attempted only 21.6% of their shots from inside the restricted area when Gobert was on the court, which would have ranked the lowest among any team this season. That increased to 26.7% when he was off the floor, which would have rated as the sixth-highest among teams.
The Timberwolves held opponents to 56.6% shooting on dunk and layup attempts, the lowest rate in the NBA.
Gobert's dominance extended beyond the paint. He thrived in switch situations, allowing the fewest points per direct isolations among players to defend at least 175 isolation possessions, according to Second Spectrum tracking. He also excelled as a pick-and-roll defender, allowing the third-fewest points per direct pick among screener defenders to defend at least 1,000 on-ball picks.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40102549/timberwolves-rudy-gobert-named-defensive-player-year
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Castle Black wrote:Twitter is having a field day with this. Majority of the comments under every post regarding this announcement are saying Wemby was robbed. Twitter knows ball.
Myth wrote:firedavidkahn wrote:Castle Black wrote:Minnesota looking absolutely dominant Defensively last game against the defending champs without Gobert on the floor speaks volumes. Rudy had 3 other players on his team ranked in the Top-20 Defensively this season.
Meanwhile the Spurs dropped from the #4 ranked Defense in the league when Wemby was on the floor to #28 (!!) when he sat lol. That’s insane. Wemby also lead the league in Blocks & Stocks by a HUGE margin, as well as Steals for a Center, lest we forget. Robbery of the century unfortunately.
Just because Wemby had worse teammates doesn't mean he is a better defensive player.
Focusing on that stuff is kinda immaterial
And so is giving the guy DPOY because his teammates are better at defense. Pretty much every other way of measuring defense says Wemby was better.
Including the eye test: https://youtube.com/shorts/jUxAoTaDcUI?si=pha0fUFo382V_etN
Myth wrote:Chuck Everett wrote:Myth wrote:Is it hate for people to say they think the other guy was better?
You don't get it. The Spurs won the same amount of games with Wemby as the tanking year before. No DPOY is going to happen on a team with a bottom five record. It's just not going to happen. Otherwise we would have saw the effects in the win column. Wemby was also on a minutes restriction and had a much lighter load for the entire season. This doesn't mean that DPOY's aren't in his future. But this year, Rudy was a no-brainer.
I guarantee you if the Spurs finish with under 35 wins, he won't win next year either.
I 100% understand this. I don’t agree with it since the Spurs were tanking again, but Wemby’s impact is greater than Gobert’s IMO. And that isn’t Gobert hate.
wemby wrote:shrink wrote:Bornstellar wrote:Wemby got robbed. Last night was proof
You have it backwards.
Rudy instilled the defensive culture in his teammates. He calls out defenses, helps teammates defend better, and sets the standard for effort. Last night he was a proud papa, both for a baby, and for seeing his teammates grow up defensively. That defense led to the Wolves best season, and their success in the playoffs.
Wemby will get this award soon. Probably many times. But as a rookie, his defense isn’t magnified throughout his team.
That's a great case... for COACH of the year, not defensive PLAYER of the year. If your team shuts down the defending champions without you, you're not that important.
If you want to give the award on team defense, then make it shared, like a Nobel prize. And the DPOY this year is... the entire TWolves roster!!!
shrink wrote:Bornstellar wrote:Wemby got robbed. Last night was proof
You have it backwards.
Rudy instilled the defensive culture in his teammates. He calls out defenses, helps teammates defend better, and sets the standard for effort. Last night he was a proud papa, both for a baby, and for seeing his teammates grow up defensively. That defense led to the Wolves best season, and their success in the playoffs.
Wemby will get this award soon. Probably many times. But as a rookie, his defense isn’t magnified throughout his team.
Castle Black wrote:Twitter is having a field day with this. Majority of the comments under every post regarding this announcement are saying Wemby was robbed. Twitter knows ball.
TimDunkin wrote:Congrats to Rudy on his 4th and final DPOY.
wemby wrote:brutalitops wrote:wemby wrote:Agreed. Watched the TWolves, their defense is suffocating, made the defending champs look like amateurs, you can't deny his contribution. Oh, wait, that's right... HE DIDN'T EVEN PLAY
So he's a worse defender now because the nuggets sucked last night? Charlotte scored more then 80 against us when Rudy played. Maybe use that as an argument why Rudy isn't a good defender
Clown take.
The Nuggets didn't suck, they were eaten alive by the Timberwolves WITHOUT their "best defender". Puts into context how important Gobert is in Minnesota, which debunks the whole argument that he should be the DPOY because he's the best defender on the best defensive team, which is the justification behind a lot of the Gobert votes. Now THAT's a clown take.