Jcool0 wrote:FWIW Carlisle has been coaching in Indiana since 2021.
Call me senile!
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Jcool0 wrote:FWIW Carlisle has been coaching in Indiana since 2021.
Michael Jackson wrote:GoBlue72391 wrote:terry wrote:Hes a role player. Who cares. Drummond is better. You can find role players.
Gafford would be the perfect starting C for this team. Plus we would have $20m+ per year in salary that we wouldn't be paying Vuc.
True but afford is 14 mil so it really is only a 6 mil savings, that being said I would prefer Gafford still.
dougthonus wrote:Michael Jackson wrote:GoBlue72391 wrote:Gafford would be the perfect starting C for this team. Plus we would have $20m+ per year in salary that we wouldn't be paying Vuc.
True but afford is 14 mil so it really is only a 6 mil savings, that being said I would prefer Gafford still.
Yeah Gafford would look better than Vuc, but I wouldn't be all jacked about Gafford on a 14M dollar deal either.
sco wrote:Our model was clear...we wanted C's who could playmake and set picks/screens on the perimeter. IMO, we went after AD because he was a good passer/screener as much as his rebounding. Gafford was purely a paint guy. He was also a bit pouty, IIRC.
rosenthall wrote:Two things:
- Overall, I don't think the org liked Gafford that much. Both AK & Billy seem to prioritize big men that can work at the top of the key and Gafford can't do that at all. I'd bet they already decided they didn't want to keep him around so were happy to shop him for whatever they could get. Theis fit the team's preferred style of play more than Gafford did
- Troy Brown Jr. is the exact sort of player AKME like to take gambles on, and I think they saw him as an important piece in the trade. It's ironic that neither Theis or Troy Brown Jr did anything with the team and Javonte was the only one that stuck around. I get the impression he was just there to match salaries and they had no idea how much he'd play for them.
Ice Man wrote:As it turns out, several ex Bulls are getting playoff time in the second round -
Gafford
Justin Holiday
DJJ
Kornet
Strus
But all very much supporting roles ... if that was your starting lineup, you'd win 10 games.
Michael Jordan wrote:Sometimes I wish I could be my teammates looking at that
defense. It must be nice. But it isn't nice for me.
ThreeYearPlan wrote:Bulls fans defend HomoSapien more than Rose.
jordanwilliams6 wrote:It proves that the NBA is completely reliant on the 1-3 guys on your team. You can find plenty of role players on terrible teams that fit on very good teams. Our top 3 guys are all have highly questionable impact.
HomoSapien wrote:I really liked Gafford. I thought we should've kept him. All that said, the trade at that moment, wasn't a "bad" deal. We netted Troy Brown who at the time was a recent 15th overall pick, Daniel Theis who was considered to be instrumental to Boston's premier defense, and JaVonte Green who I feel was more of a throw-in but ended up becoming a rotation player.
It became a bad trade when we gave up on Theis so quickly, despite him playing well for us and providing something that no one else on the roster really provides. If we had committed to him as a role player, I think this trade ages better.
Dan Z wrote:HomoSapien wrote:I really liked Gafford. I thought we should've kept him. All that said, the trade at that moment, wasn't a "bad" deal. We netted Troy Brown who at the time was a recent 15th overall pick, Daniel Theis who was considered to be instrumental to Boston's premier defense, and JaVonte Green who I feel was more of a throw-in but ended up becoming a rotation player.
It became a bad trade when we gave up on Theis so quickly, despite him playing well for us and providing something that no one else on the roster really provides. If we had committed to him as a role player, I think this trade ages better.
Did AK even want to re-sign Theis? I can't remember if he said anything about that. It seemed odd to trade for him and let him walk. Was part of that to avoid paying the luxury tax?