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Re: Chams: Nikola Jokic Named 2023-24 NBA MVP 

Post#61 » by AleksandarN » Wed May 8, 2024 11:58 pm

This is probably best and most important congratulations he will ever get today. Forget Shaq he has something more important in his life than Shaq’s back handed praise

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Re: Chams: Nikola Jokic Named 2023-24 NBA MVP 

Post#62 » by r0drig0lac » Wed May 8, 2024 11:58 pm

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Re: Chams: Nikola Jokic Named 2023-24 NBA MVP 

Post#63 » by HotRocks34 » Wed May 8, 2024 11:58 pm

Justice.

This one's for you, Kendrick Perkins.

He got 79 first place votes. I think the final straw poll had him with 85 firsts so that Spurs loss didn't hurt him much.

This is his era. But he and the Nuggets have a lot to work on this summer.
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Re: Chams: Nikola Jokic Named 2023-24 NBA MVP 

Post#64 » by Jasen777 » Wed May 8, 2024 11:58 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:Meh. Jokic is going to be in company with lebron and Jordan when he shouldn't be. Not sure what the voters are doing here.

Lebron should have 12 mvps if he got judged like this.

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Re: Chams: Nikola Jokic Named 2023-24 NBA MVP 

Post#65 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Wed May 8, 2024 11:59 pm

This was my early April guess. Has been clear this was the order at least as long, probably back to Feb.

I had it closer between SGA and Luka than voters did. Assuming for most of the reasons that got aired in the MVP thread.

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I expect 2 and three to tighten up but otherwise yeah this is the result we should expect and has been the case since at least early in 2024.

Final points probably something like:

Jokic 920
SGA 580
Luka 550
Giannis 340
Tatum 120
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Re: Chams: Nikola Jokic Wins 2023-24 NBA MVP 

Post#66 » by Bank Shot » Wed May 8, 2024 11:59 pm

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RB34 wrote:
SpurNani wrote:Won the mvp and will be swept for the second time as MVP


As opposed to the other candidates who haven’t done **** in the playoffs.


Luka has beaten a team that won 60+ games in the playoffs

Jokic has never beaten a team with more then 50 wins

He hasn’t done **** either but get a favorable draw last year


Incredibly stupid stat. The Clippers won 49 of their 72 games in 2020. That's a 56-win pace.
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Post#67 » by AleksandarN » Thu May 9, 2024 12:00 am

Castle Black wrote:
_AIJ_ wrote:Shaq is just a hater


Love Shaq, but he notoriously always hates on other great Centers. He just feels threatened imo. Dude doesn’t want anyone touching his legacy.

I hope Jokic wins 5 chips and says to Shaq “I have 5 brother”
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Post#68 » by FrobeBryant » Thu May 9, 2024 12:02 am

Personally I think the MVP is an overrated award. But I had SGA winning it this year.
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Post#69 » by Hobo4President » Thu May 9, 2024 12:03 am

Joerezz7 wrote:Ant Edwards, SGA, Jayson Tatum Jalen Brunson and Luka all deserve the MVP over him. One of the biggest robberies in history to the players mentioned.


Ant, Tatum, Brunson?????????
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Post#70 » by Papi_swav » Thu May 9, 2024 12:05 am

SGA deserved it for sure
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Post#71 » by SpurNani » Thu May 9, 2024 12:05 am

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SpurNani wrote:
RB34 wrote:
As opposed to the other candidates who haven’t done **** in the playoffs.


Luka has beaten a team that won 60+ games in the playoffs

Jokic has never beaten a team with more then 50 wins

He hasn’t done **** either but get a favorable draw last year

You can use statistical backflips like this to justify just about anything. This is downright silly.

And that’s without even mentioning that you’re using playoff stuff to argue a regular season award.

Of course using playoff success to argue Luka over Jokic is silly too.

So you’re kind of pulling a hat trick here.


The other guy brought up the playoffs first, I simply responded.

Yes, its a regular season award and the Nuggets were very underwhelming compared to the hype they received about becoming a potential dynasty off their soft touch finals win last year. They mostly sleepwalked through the season which is kind of reflective of Jokics overall attitude towards basketball.

I felt SGA and Luka seasons were more impressive when you consider everything. They exceeded expectations set out for them this year.
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Post#72 » by 10DayContract » Thu May 9, 2024 12:05 am

If you were Shaq, you'd be a hater too.
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Post#73 » by makubesu » Thu May 9, 2024 12:06 am

The criteria has shifted a lot so it’s hard to make historic comparisons, but if you’re giving the mvp to the best player you know you’re doing something right. Hopefully this puts a fire in him and we get a more interesting Nuggets - Wolves series.
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Re: Chams: Nikola Jokic Named 2023-24 NBA MVP 

Post#74 » by AleksandarN » Thu May 9, 2024 12:07 am

Wait Sabonis got another vote. First it was defensive player of the year vote now MVP? Who is the guy? Lol

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Post#75 » by sikma42 » Thu May 9, 2024 12:07 am

If Jokic played with Kobe he wouldn’t have 3 MVPs. The argument was always that you couldn’t be the MVP with another MVP Caliber guy on the roster.

Would be like if you had Jokic and Luka on the same team.


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Post#76 » by Im Coming Home » Thu May 9, 2024 12:08 am

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What clown gave Giannis a 1st place vote, thats crazy..

Brunson deserved a few 1st place votes imo, if you go by the definition of 'most valuable player' to their team, Brunson is def like top 3 or higher, take Brunson off the Knicks and they don't even make the play-in..
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Re: Chams: Nikola Jokic Named 2023-24 NBA MVP 

Post#77 » by SpurNani » Thu May 9, 2024 12:08 am

Averaging a 35 point triple double not enough and leading the youngest team in the league to ever be a #1 seed is not enough when dealing with Jokic, aka better then Peak LeBron
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Re: Chams: Nikola Jokic Named 2023-24 NBA MVP 

Post#78 » by Wolfgang630 » Thu May 9, 2024 12:09 am

FrobeBryant wrote:Personally I think the MVP is an overrated award. But I had SGA winning it this year.

Ok Frobe.
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Re: Chams: Joker Wins 2023-24 NBA MVP 

Post#79 » by DaGawd » Thu May 9, 2024 12:09 am

Hobo4President wrote:
Joerezz7 wrote:Ant Edwards, SGA, Jayson Tatum Jalen Brunson and Luka all deserve the MVP over him. One of the biggest robberies in history to the players mentioned.


Ant, Tatum, Brunson?????????

yeah… the guy who had his team finish number 2 in the east without a legit second option for much of the year
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Re: Chams: Nikola Jokic Named 2023-24 NBA MVP 

Post#80 » by phanman » Thu May 9, 2024 12:11 am

The fact that Jokic won a landslide, tells you everything you need to know. He got 97x 1st and 2nd place votes guys, just accept it.

SGA wasn't even the clear #2 2nd option as evidenced by Luka getting split votes there.

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