svart wrote:whatisacenter wrote:svart wrote:i feel there are only two realistic path from here. three if you count teaming up with bron and kd.
1. bring bron and kd, sign klay to a decent amount and trade the youngsters. old men versus the new generation, i don't think this will happen, and even if it will, that team does not win a chip, too old, too late.
2. if cury wants to win, we should trade him to another team, here he can't do it. trade then the old guard for picks and whatever. go full rebuild
3. if curry wants to ride into the sunset with his buddies, sign klay and wait two more years by being mediocre. trade whatever assets we have and keep jk, podz and tjd. and moody if his arse can take two more years of riding pine.
my opinion is they will take the last one. so i expect two more years of mediocrity.
I don't think and really hope the first two options don't happen.
With option 3, which I also think is the most likely, why would they be trading assets? If they do the ride into the sunset thing there is no reason to mortgage the future. Here are some snippets from an article on their cap issues.
https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2234/2024-nba-offseason-financial-previewsThompson is a role player now. He’s not an All-Star and he never will be again. If the Warriors are serious about cutting salary, it starts with Thompson just as much as it does with Paul.
Golden State needs to be firm here. Thompson made $43.2 million last year. Ideally, the Warriors would cut that figure in half. Something in the range of $20-$22 million feels fair. You’re acknowledging and paying for everything Thompson has meant to the franchise, while also acknowledging he’s a lessened, but still valuable player…at the right price.
Last thing on Thompson: To some extent how much the Warriors pay him is only dependent on how serious they are about getting out of the tax this coming season. The far more important matter is the number of years that Golden State locks into for Thompson. This needs to be year-to-year territory now, and if it’s a two-year deal, the second season has to be something the team has control over.
Waiving Paul, and cutting Thompson’s salary roughly in half would have the Warriors about $5.3 million under the luxury tax line with 11 players under contract. That’s pretty workable, and in range of ducking the tax entirely after the roster is filled out.
There’s been reporting that Gary Payton II may opt out of his $9.1 million contract for next season. The idea is Payton will opt out to sign a long-term deal that lowers his number for this season. That’s a way for Golden State to create about $4-$5 million more in wiggle room under the tax.
Lowering the tax, or dodging it entirely, is important for the Warriors to save some money for what has become a merely above-average team. It’s also important to start resetting the clock on the tax repeater rules.
Mike Dunleavy Jr’s first offseason running the front office was mostly about setting the stage for the latter path, while keeping the path to contention open. Now, it’s time to reset both the roster and the cap sheet. That might mean a short-term falloff, but one that leads to a long-term gain.
The bolded part is why I am frustrated with ownership and the FO for the last offseason. The team could already be where they are hoping to get to in a year.
By assets i meant wiggs, loon, gp2, if they have any value.
Wiggs has for sure, not sure about the others. Why keep them, really, in this scenario.
I don't think that's true. The contract length and his play the last two years are not a good combo. From everything I've heard and read, he's a negative contract that we'll need to attach an asset to move him. It's why the dubs didn't do so at the deadline and he didn't exactly shine post-deadline.
As much as I want to move wiggins, mostly to open up room for JK and MM to play more at the 3, I don't want to attach an asset to move him and I don't think we can get anything back for wigs that will approach what he can provide if he plays like he used to. Not peak two-way wigs but, at least, an engaged, one-way wigs. Other than attaching an asset, our other hope would be to take back another toxic asset (e.g. ben simmons, ayton, etc.). I'd bet on wiggs reverting to the mean more than I would on simmons or ayton rediscovering a desire to play basketball. Neither are particularly good bets but I'd try to get Wigs in the right place mentally and hope he gets to a much better place by next year's deadline.