Is Derrick White a max player?

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Is Derrick White a max player?

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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#41 » by watpho71 » Thu May 9, 2024 7:29 pm

Depends on which team he would be willing to sign that deal, very unlikely it would be for the Celtics.
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#42 » by LaLover11 » Thu May 9, 2024 7:35 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Is Austin Reaves a max player

What does that have to do with anything? Are you comparing Reeves to White?


Reaves 15.9 PPG, 4.3 Reb, 5.5 Ast, 48.6 FG%
White 15.2 PPG, 4.2 Reb, 5.2 Ast, 46.1 FG%

They are exactly the same player besides obvious playstyle tendencies.

You can argue all you want that White is better but the reality is White is not a Max player because he's identical to Austin Reaves
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#43 » by Heat3 » Thu May 9, 2024 7:40 pm

Yes. Celtics should max him. Super max him!
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#44 » by Scarletfire81 » Thu May 9, 2024 7:42 pm

All I know is that he one of my favorite players, but you’ll hate him if you are rooting for their opponent. He does everything really well, there isn’t a glaring hole in his game. He has huge impact in virtually every game…
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#45 » by brackdan70 » Thu May 9, 2024 7:50 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Is Austin Reaves a max player

What does that have to do with anything? Are you comparing Reeves to White?


Reaves 15.9 PPG, 4.3 Reb, 5.5 Ast, 48.6 FG%
White 15.2 PPG, 4.2 Reb, 5.2 Ast, 46.1 FG%

They are exactly the same player besides obvious playstyle tendencies.

You can argue all you want that White is better but the reality is White is not a Max player because he's identical to Austin Reaves

There is much more to the game than those 5 statistics lol.
Win shares, BPM, defensive stats. Adjusted +\-, etc.

Don’t get me wrong, Reeves is a good player…just not close to the impact White has.
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#46 » by brackdan70 » Thu May 9, 2024 7:51 pm

Heat3 wrote:Yes. Celtics should max him. Super max him!

Not eligible for a super max.
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#47 » by brackdan70 » Thu May 9, 2024 7:53 pm

watpho71 wrote:Depends on which team he would be willing to sign that deal, very unlikely it would be for the Celtics.

Why don’t you think the Celtics would max him.
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#48 » by brackdan70 » Thu May 9, 2024 7:54 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Is Austin Reaves a max player

What does that have to do with anything? Are you comparing Reeves to White?


Reaves 15.9 PPG, 4.3 Reb, 5.5 Ast, 48.6 FG%
White 15.2 PPG, 4.2 Reb, 5.2 Ast, 46.1 FG%

They are exactly the same player besides obvious playstyle tendencies.

You can argue all you want that White is better but the reality is White is not a Max player because he's identical to Austin Reaves

And I am not arguing that he deserves a max. I voted no. My first post I suggested 30-35 million per year.
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#49 » by Infinite Llamas » Thu May 9, 2024 7:56 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Is Austin Reaves a max player

What does that have to do with anything? Are you comparing Reeves to White?


Reaves 15.9 PPG, 4.3 Reb, 5.5 Ast, 48.6 FG%
White 15.2 PPG, 4.2 Reb, 5.2 Ast, 46.1 FG%

They are exactly the same player besides obvious playstyle tendencies.

You can argue all you want that White is better but the reality is White is not a Max player because he's identical to Austin Reaves


Now do blocks and defensive impact.

Reaves isn’t in the same stratosphere defensively.
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#50 » by TheGeneral99 » Thu May 9, 2024 7:56 pm

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itrsteve wrote:Not sure if he's a "max" player but he's going to have all the leverage in world this summer.

Ownership has put their money with their mouth is and is paying everybody now that they're deep into the cap. Undoubtedly, D White is going to warrant a significant payday.

This summer there is not much to discuss. He is eligible for a 4/122 extension and Boston will offer that. White says yes or no. If no then the following off season he is a free agent.


It is crazy how guys like Derrick White, who I like alot, now make as much as almost the top movie stars in the world. The NBA is popular but it isn't that popular. Due to tv deals, all of the sports league are able to get a lot of money from non-sports fans.


Yeah I think the difference is the top movie stars can only star in one big blockbuster every 2-3 years whereas in the NBA you play 82+ games a year spanning the stretch of 6-8 months.
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#51 » by dolphinatik » Thu May 9, 2024 8:02 pm

The way he is playing right now compared to the maxes of recent years absolutely. Middleton type effort surpasses Beal so sure pay the result not the potential
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#52 » by PierceFan4ever » Thu May 9, 2024 8:02 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Is Austin Reaves a max player

What does that have to do with anything? Are you comparing Reeves to White?


Reaves 15.9 PPG, 4.3 Reb, 5.5 Ast, 48.6 FG%
White 15.2 PPG, 4.2 Reb, 5.2 Ast, 46.1 FG%

They are exactly the same player besides obvious playstyle tendencies.

You can argue all you want that White is better but the reality is White is not a Max player because he's identical to Austin Reaves


Totally agree

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Reaves = White

It all makes sense why lakers won more than 64 games this season
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#53 » by DaddyCool19 » Thu May 9, 2024 8:05 pm

Should get a Holiday like contract, whose contract is imo 1 year too long.
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#54 » by basketballRob » Thu May 9, 2024 8:08 pm

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basketballRob wrote:Suggs had a near identical season that White had, and we're talking about an extension starting off at $20m for him.

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Near identical?
White was significantly stronger in every way.
Maybe slap up their stats side by side so I can understand “near identical”
Suggs is 22, and White is 29 and just had his best season. White was a little better this season, but I'd take Suggs for the next 5 years.

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=suggsja01&p1yrfrom=2024&p1yrto=2024&player_id2=whitede01&p2yrfrom=2024&p2yrto=2024

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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#55 » by reload141 » Thu May 9, 2024 8:10 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Is Austin Reaves a max player

What does that have to do with anything? Are you comparing Reeves to White?


Reaves 15.9 PPG, 4.3 Reb, 5.5 Ast, 48.6 FG%
White 15.2 PPG, 4.2 Reb, 5.2 Ast, 46.1 FG%

They are exactly the same player besides obvious playstyle tendencies.

You can argue all you want that White is better but the reality is White is not a Max player because he's identical to Austin Reaves


White is not a max player, but he’s far and away a better player than Reaves, everyone knows it too.
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#56 » by reload141 » Thu May 9, 2024 8:16 pm

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brackdan70 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Suggs had a near identical season that White had, and we're talking about an extension starting off at $20m for him.

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Near identical?
White was significantly stronger in every way.
Maybe slap up their stats side by side so I can understand “near identical”
Suggs is 22, and White is 29 and just had his best season. White was a little better this season, but I'd take Suggs for the next 5 years.

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=suggsja01&p1yrfrom=2024&p1yrto=2024&player_id2=whitede01&p2yrfrom=2024&p2yrto=2024

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Depends what kind of team you are, if you’re contending it’s White, if you’re building its Suggs
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#57 » by brackdan70 » Thu May 9, 2024 8:21 pm

basketballRob wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Suggs had a near identical season that White had, and we're talking about an extension starting off at $20m for him.

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Near identical?
White was significantly stronger in every way.
Maybe slap up their stats side by side so I can understand “near identical”
Suggs is 22, and White is 29 and just had his best season. White was a little better this season, but I'd take Suggs for the next 5 years.

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=suggsja01&p1yrfrom=2024&p1yrto=2024&player_id2=whitede01&p2yrfrom=2024&p2yrto=2024

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That’s cool but that is not the argument you made.their seasons were nowhere nearly identical.
If we want to talk about who is the better investment over the next 5 years then that’s a different conversation. Suggs can definitely turn into a Derick White level player and White is probably at or near his peak.
For the Celtics they want to keep this window open for a few years so they would probably choose White because of fit, but I can see the argument for the upside of the younger player.
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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#58 » by basketballRob » Thu May 9, 2024 8:21 pm

reload141 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:Near identical?
White was significantly stronger in every way.
Maybe slap up their stats side by side so I can understand “near identical”
Suggs is 22, and White is 29 and just had his best season. White was a little better this season, but I'd take Suggs for the next 5 years.

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=suggsja01&p1yrfrom=2024&p1yrto=2024&player_id2=whitede01&p2yrfrom=2024&p2yrto=2024

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Depends what kind of team you are, if you’re contending it’s White, if you’re building its Suggs
Suggs should pass White soon.

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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#59 » by basketballRob » Thu May 9, 2024 8:23 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:Near identical?
White was significantly stronger in every way.
Maybe slap up their stats side by side so I can understand “near identical”
Suggs is 22, and White is 29 and just had his best season. White was a little better this season, but I'd take Suggs for the next 5 years.

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=suggsja01&p1yrfrom=2024&p1yrto=2024&player_id2=whitede01&p2yrfrom=2024&p2yrto=2024

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That’s cool but that is not the argument you made.their seasons were nowhere nearly identical.
If we want to talk about who is the better investment over the next 5 years then that’s a different conversation. Suggs can definitely turn into a Derick White level player and White is probably at or near his peak.
For the Celtics they want to keep this window open for a few years so they would probably choose White because of fit, but I can see the argument for the upside of the younger player.
White played a few more minutes per game, so his raw stats are a little higher. Shooting wise, they were near identical.

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Re: Is Derrick White a max player? 

Post#60 » by fallguy » Thu May 9, 2024 8:24 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Is Austin Reaves a max player

What does that have to do with anything? Are you comparing Reeves to White?


Reaves 15.9 PPG, 4.3 Reb, 5.5 Ast, 48.6 FG%
White 15.2 PPG, 4.2 Reb, 5.2 Ast, 46.1 FG%

They are exactly the same player besides obvious playstyle tendencies.

You can argue all you want that White is better but the reality is White is not a Max player because he's identical to Austin Reaves


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