[Wojnarowski]: Vogel Fired

Post #1 » by **bondom34** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:24 pm

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JustBuzzin · Post #2 » by **JustBuzzin** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:29 pm

Scapegoat

Post #3 » by **Domejandro** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:29 pm

Undeserved, but not unexpected.

Chinook · Post #4 » by **Chinook** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:30 pm

Assuming MKE will fire Doc and he'll somehow get this job.

Post #5 » by **zimpy27** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:31 pm

Bud probably will be better since he strategizes offense and defense. But I don think Vogel was a good fit, just needed a bit more depth on that team.

Post #6 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:34 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Wrong board buddy.

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JRoy · Post #7 » by **JRoy** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:38 pm

Come to Portland

JustBuzzin · Post #8 » by **JustBuzzin** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:40 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Wrong board buddy.

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I forgot the transaction part.

JennetteMcCurdy · Post #9 » by **JennetteMcCurdy** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:46 pm

Easier to fire just him and not all the players

tester551 · Post #10 » by **tester551** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:51 pm

Domejandro wrote:Undeserved, but not unexpected.

I'm not sure I agree. Suns were horrific to watch for many games. They frequently devolved into Durant ISO.
If they get Bud - IMO that is a huge win.

*** edit *** - but I agree with everyone else pointing out that the roster construction had major flaws. I just don't think Vogel was 'innocent' here.

brackdan70 · Post #11 » by **brackdan70** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:52 pm

I don’t get it…did he make the decision to trade for Beal?

That’s the dude you fire.

HornetJail · Post #12 » by **HornetJail** » Thu May 9, 2024 8:52 pm

yeah it's definitely Vogel's fault the Suns had no point guard, downgraded at C, built around three star scorers with variations of the same playstyle, flooded the bench with crappier versions of those same players, and then had no room left to actually acquire fitting role players. All of the Suns problems are solved now, well done Phoenix.

Post #13 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu May 9, 2024 9:11 pm

Man Vogel has been the scapegoat three times now in fairly short order. Tough gig.

Post #14 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu May 9, 2024 9:11 pm

brackdan70 wrote:I don’t get it…did he make the decision to trade for Beal?

That’s the dude you fire.

Mat ain't gonna fire himself. Cuz I'm almost certain that was a him decision and not a James Jones decision.

brackdan70 · Post #15 » by **brackdan70** » Thu May 9, 2024 9:16 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:I don’t get it…did he make the decision to trade for Beal?

That’s the dude you fire.

Mat ain't gonna fire himself. Cuz I'm almost certain that was a him decision and not a James Jones decision.

Yeah I know.
It often works this way in Toxic workplaces. ( not saying the Suns are a toxic work place but that’s a sign), Get rid of a high performer and blame them for poor leadership decisions that didn’t pan out.

HornetJail · Post #16 » by **HornetJail** » Thu May 9, 2024 9:17 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Man Vogel has been the scapegoat three times now in fairly short order. Tough gig.

maybe he can re-up with the Lakers, and can fourpeat by January 2026.

Post #17 » by **gswhoops** » Thu May 9, 2024 9:19 pm

Meh, Vogel wasn't the problem but he wasn't the solution either. Not sure anyone else can do better, but "fair" isn't really part of the equation here.

BlazersBroncos · Post #18 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Thu May 9, 2024 9:22 pm

Man I hope PDX dumps Billups and snags Vogel.

tester551 · Post #19 » by **tester551** » Thu May 9, 2024 9:36 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:Man I hope PDX dumps Billups and snags Vogel.

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tester551 · Post #20 » by **tester551** » Thu May 9, 2024 9:45 pm

Rumor has it that they want an offensive oriented coach. Here's a name for you: Terry Stotts.
Thoughts?