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Lol ishbia is fried
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TorontoBarneys wrote:Starting to appreciate Masai and our ownership more these last few weeks. Some clowns out there.
I was reading George Karl’s book and apparently owner’s meddling in roster decisions is a common thing. I think we’re one of the few teams where the owner’s let Masai do what he wants.
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C_Money wrote:TorontoBarneys wrote:Starting to appreciate Masai and our ownership more these last few weeks. Some clowns out there.
I was reading George Karl’s book and apparently owner’s meddling in roster decisions is a common thing. I think we’re one of the few teams where the owner’s let Masai do what he wants.
Other than lower ticket prices.
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KD's 5th coach in 3 years. That's gotta be a record
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its musical chairs with these coaches
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YogurtProducer wrote:MiamiSPX wrote:What a disaster in such a short amount of time. It's actually impressive how quickly they ruined their team for the next half-decade (at least).
Especially since Booker / Bridges / Ayton was a nice core to start with to and one that won 64 **** games and made the finals.
IMO should have stuck with that and made smaller moves. Not the huge ones they did.
1 player left for the Finals team, Booker. Incredible turnover of roster
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
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DG88 wrote:I blame the owner for this than anyone else in that org. He called the shots and here are the consequences. Let the basketball people run the show.
Honestly, I hope this experiment fails just like the Clippers experiment is failing. I hate tanking but I also hate owners thinking they can buy a championship.
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DG88 wrote:I blame the owner for this than anyone else in that org. He called the shots and here are the consequences. Let the basketball people run the show.
Exactly the same thing that happened in BRK the first time around, with Prokhorov.
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WaltFrazier wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:MiamiSPX wrote:What a disaster in such a short amount of time. It's actually impressive how quickly they ruined their team for the next half-decade (at least).
Especially since Booker / Bridges / Ayton was a nice core to start with to and one that won 64 **** games and made the finals.
IMO should have stuck with that and made smaller moves. Not the huge ones they did.
1 player left for the Finals team, Booker. Incredible turnover of roster
Legitimately mind boggling. They made the FINALS in 2021, and in 3 years have managed to not only give up the entire franchise's future, but also go BACKWARDS in the playoffs.
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Ishbia Prokoroved a WCF team for the next like 5 years , will prob dip too
Magic#1 wrote:We have won two playoff games in two years. If we decide to keep this team for the next two years, maybe it will feel like we won a series.
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Imagine giving a coach a 5 year/$31M dollar contract just to fire him after 12 months lmao Ishbia and the Suns are cooked
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ForeverTFC wrote:DG88 wrote:I blame the owner for this than anyone else in that org. He called the shots and here are the consequences. Let the basketball people run the show.
Honestly, I hope this experiment fails just like the Clippers experiment is failing. I hate tanking but I also hate owners thinking they can buy a championship.
I never understood this mentality with fans. The point of owning a team is to win a championship. Historically you need the talent to do that and there are multiple ways to get there. I’d rather have an owner who goes for it than a cheap, useless **** like Sarver or Sterling. There’s no such thing as “buying a team” this isn’t Futbol.
That being said. Ishbia is a **** moron
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Mattatron wrote:Imagine giving a coach a 5 year/$31M dollar contract just to fire him after 12 months lmao Ishbia and the Suns are cooked
Now paying Coach Bud $10M per year to coach the Suns
Ishbia likes to spend his money
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A scapegoat if I've ever seen one. I wonder what it's like building a terrible roster and firing the coach.....
Props TZ!
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JB7 wrote:Mattatron wrote:Imagine giving a coach a 5 year/$31M dollar contract just to fire him after 12 months lmao Ishbia and the Suns are cooked
Now paying Coach Bud $10M per year to coach the Suns
Ishbia likes to spend his money
Should've traded him to the Pistons for Monty
Props TZ!
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Mattatron wrote:Imagine giving a coach a 5 year/$31M dollar contract just to fire him after 12 months lmao Ishbia and the Suns are cooked
These coaches are laughing all the way to the bank. Work for 1/5th of their contract but rake in 100% of the money.
Gonna be too funny if Monty is ever fired.