2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
Moderators: infinite11285, Domejandro, Harry Garris, ken6199, Dirk, bisme37, KingDavid, zimpy27, bwgood77, cupcakesnake
2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
- SUPERVILLAIN
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,220
- And1: 12,374
- Joined: Apr 08, 2020
2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
I won't say I agree or disagree with Tatum. All I will say is this, I don't like how he said it. It sounded like he was setting up an excuse in case they lose. Everyone has their own definition of super team. What do you think of this Celtics roster?
?s=46&t=H6ZdpizHAHU9tYO3mHsVjw
?s=46&t=H6ZdpizHAHU9tYO3mHsVjw
Young Stapler wrote:Completely off topic but SUPERVILLAIN got a crazy post/And1 ratio O_O
Just an observation. Carry on
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2135964&p=94616946#p94616946
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Ballboy
- Posts: 40
- And1: 66
- Joined: Mar 10, 2019
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
Far from a superteam. A starting 5 that was very well put together and a middling bench.
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 4,560
- And1: 4,236
- Joined: Jun 01, 2018
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
Two max super stars and ultimate glue guy joined by superstar unicorn.
Tatum = curry
Brown = klay
White = green
Unicorn = KD
Sure checks out
I'm still not sure they have a legit mvp 1st option
Tatum = curry
Brown = klay
White = green
Unicorn = KD
Sure checks out
I'm still not sure they have a legit mvp 1st option
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,632
- And1: 1,651
- Joined: Apr 28, 2017
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
IMO no....close but not quite....they are a team made up of many teams #2 or #3 options for sure but i've always said that a superteam is minimum 3 guys that individually could lead their team. Brown, White, Porzingus and Holiday are not leading a team alone....They are a "super-team-lite" lol
In terms of comics for anyone who follows and thinks in those terms:
Super Teams - Avengers, Justice League, X-Men
Celtics this year are more like the Suicide Squad, Guardians of the Galaxy, Defenders, etc teams made up of "good" pieces but not "the best"
In terms of comics for anyone who follows and thinks in those terms:
Super Teams - Avengers, Justice League, X-Men
Celtics this year are more like the Suicide Squad, Guardians of the Galaxy, Defenders, etc teams made up of "good" pieces but not "the best"
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,665
- And1: 3,072
- Joined: Feb 20, 2005
- Location: Toronto
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
No because they were put together organically, the whole point of the term super team was the idea of all star friends getting together like the Heat.
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Rookie
- Posts: 1,051
- And1: 914
- Joined: Jul 16, 2015
- Location: Trampa, FL
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
I thought they had the “best starting lineup in the past 25 years.” Are you guys saying BS was wrong and biased again? Color me surprised
all I ever needed was somebody with some reason who can keep me sane
Ever since I can remember, I've been keepin' it together, but I'm feelin' strange
Ever since I can remember, I've been keepin' it together, but I'm feelin' strange
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
- Harry Garris
- Forum Mod
- Posts: 8,143
- And1: 13,807
- Joined: Jul 12, 2017
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
At this point I give up trying to understand what y’all are talking about when you say “super team”. You guys are all over the place.
Based on the definition that THIS very forum has used to define what a “super team” is the 2023-2024 Boston Celtics are a super team. During this past offseason they went out and acquired multiple all star players from other teams to add to their roster that already included a star (two, in their case). That has quite literally been the defining criteria for what a super team is according to the RealGM general board in the past.
So what gives? What’s the exception? Other franchises go out and acquire multiple star players during the offseason to supplement their home grown star? Super team. The Boston Celtics do it? Not a super team. Can someone explain to me the loophole in this imaginary ruleset that excludes this years Celtics?
Based on the definition that THIS very forum has used to define what a “super team” is the 2023-2024 Boston Celtics are a super team. During this past offseason they went out and acquired multiple all star players from other teams to add to their roster that already included a star (two, in their case). That has quite literally been the defining criteria for what a super team is according to the RealGM general board in the past.
So what gives? What’s the exception? Other franchises go out and acquire multiple star players during the offseason to supplement their home grown star? Super team. The Boston Celtics do it? Not a super team. Can someone explain to me the loophole in this imaginary ruleset that excludes this years Celtics?
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,304
- And1: 6,053
- Joined: Jun 04, 2021
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
This superteam debate/crap again?
No. Boston is mostly organically built.
You're gettin confused with those teamed up buddy teams of the past. LeBron/Bosh/Wade Heatles teams ( they were supposed to win 8 Championships), DHoward/Kobe/Nash Lakers team, etc
No. Boston is mostly organically built.
You're gettin confused with those teamed up buddy teams of the past. LeBron/Bosh/Wade Heatles teams ( they were supposed to win 8 Championships), DHoward/Kobe/Nash Lakers team, etc
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
- BrooklynDynasty
- Pro Prospect
- Posts: 959
- And1: 778
- Joined: Nov 18, 2020
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
how can they be a superteam and not have the best player on the floor in round 2, 3, and definitely not in the finals?
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Starter
- Posts: 2,253
- And1: 2,231
- Joined: Jul 03, 2015
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
They are the Tobias Harris of super teams.
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Sophomore
- Posts: 157
- And1: 271
- Joined: Feb 11, 2019
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
No, just overrated. Also, why does everyone keep blaming the Heat for starting the super team trend when it was obviously Boston?
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,304
- And1: 6,053
- Joined: Jun 04, 2021
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
Rancid669 wrote:No, just overrated. Also, why does everyone keep blaming the Heat for starting the super team trend when it was obviously Boston?
Who in this thread is blaming the Heat?
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Sophomore
- Posts: 157
- And1: 271
- Joined: Feb 11, 2019
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
jkvonny wrote:Rancid669 wrote:No, just overrated. Also, why does everyone keep blaming the Heat for starting the super team trend when it was obviously Boston?
Who in this thread is blaming the Heat?
Maybe not “blaming” but that’s who most people seem to point to first when discussing super teams. And i’m not talking just in this thread, either.
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,381
- And1: 7,590
- Joined: Jun 10, 2023
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
Superteam?
LMAO buddy thinks he's LeBron or something. Nothing super about the Celtics. They lucky Giannis and Dame got injured.
LMAO buddy thinks he's LeBron or something. Nothing super about the Celtics. They lucky Giannis and Dame got injured.
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,665
- And1: 3,072
- Joined: Feb 20, 2005
- Location: Toronto
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
Harry Garris wrote:At this point I give up trying to understand what y’all are talking about when you say “super team”. You guys are all over the place.
Based on the definition that THIS very forum has used to define what a “super team” is the 2023-2024 Boston Celtics are a super team. During this past offseason they went out and acquired multiple all star players from other teams to add to their roster that already included a star (two, in their case). That has quite literally been the defining criteria for what a super team is according to the RealGM general board in the past.
So what gives? What’s the exception? Other franchises go out and acquire multiple star players during the offseason to supplement their home grown star? Super team. The Boston Celtics do it? Not a super team. Can someone explain to me the loophole in this imaginary ruleset that excludes this years Celtics?
I guess the difference is that Holiday and Porzingis didn't force their way to Boston after being recruited by Celtics players. I think most people's definition of a super team is that they are mostly premeditated and manufactured by star players. Also Holiday and Porzingis aren't as flashy as stars like Durant, Anthony Davis, Kyrie etc.
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,304
- And1: 6,053
- Joined: Jun 04, 2021
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
Rancid669 wrote:jkvonny wrote:Rancid669 wrote:No, just overrated. Also, why does everyone keep blaming the Heat for starting the super team trend when it was obviously Boston?
Who in this thread is blaming the Heat?
Maybe not “blaming” but that’s who most people seem to point to first when discussing super teams. And i’m not talking just in this thread, either.
True. Folks also forget the Barkley/Pippin/Hakeem Rockets team during the mid - late 90s as well.
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
- Bornstellar
- General Manager
- Posts: 7,609
- And1: 17,861
- Joined: Mar 05, 2018
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
Regardless of whether they were "built or bought" I believe in terms of talent they are a super team. Their SL features 4 all star level players and one borderline all star plus a former all star in Horford.
If you're asking are they a manufactured super team like the Heatles then no. But in terms of talent I believe they are
If you're asking are they a manufactured super team like the Heatles then no. But in terms of talent I believe they are
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,317
- And1: 1,627
- Joined: Dec 31, 2018
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
Yes.
They have a superb team this year.
They have a superb team this year.
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,656
- And1: 1,200
- Joined: Sep 23, 2023
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
How are they not a Superteam? 4th highest net rating in NBA history! https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/largest-net-rating-by-a-nba-team-in-a-season
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,840
- And1: 2,522
- Joined: May 06, 2006
Re: 2023-24 Celtics. Are they a super team?
Can we call them an upside down super team....
They basically have one of the best #3 - #8 rosters in league history.
The problem is their #1 and #2 in Tatum and Brown simply doesn't compare to all of the those elite duos associated with super teams
Who would honestly take Tatum & Brown over
Lebron/Wade
Steph/Durant
Shaq/Kobe
Jordan/Pippen
Magic/Kareem
Duncan/Parker
Yes - the current Celtics are an all time great regular season team with probably the best #3 - #8 rotation of players in league history. Playoffs are all about your #1 and #2 stars and the Js simply don't stack up with what is typically thought of in regards to super teams.
They basically have one of the best #3 - #8 rosters in league history.
The problem is their #1 and #2 in Tatum and Brown simply doesn't compare to all of the those elite duos associated with super teams
Who would honestly take Tatum & Brown over
Lebron/Wade
Steph/Durant
Shaq/Kobe
Jordan/Pippen
Magic/Kareem
Duncan/Parker
Yes - the current Celtics are an all time great regular season team with probably the best #3 - #8 rotation of players in league history. Playoffs are all about your #1 and #2 stars and the Js simply don't stack up with what is typically thought of in regards to super teams.