Butler won’t like this if he doesn’t get his.
There’s trouble brewing in paradise and Mama Gayle is ready to pounce.
McCollum and Nance will love Sauf Beech.
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marson wrote:Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
I was MJ all day up until a couple seasons ago, what LeBron has done at 40 is just unreal. This dude has been dominating the league for more than half of his life.
Yea talent is super different, LeBron is simply just the bigger stronger faster more skilled player between the 2. It’s not a diss to MJ, it just is what it is at this point.
What wild is, health permitting and if he can win championships Wemby is probably going to make all the MJ/LeBron debates all these years irrelevant lol
Lebron is on roids
and just because he's playing at 40 doesn't make his peak greater than MJ's
like what.
I hate the fact that we have MJ's jersey displayed in the rafters at the Heat stadium, but as a child of the 90s who witnessed his second three-peat, I firmly believe he's the GOAT. LeBron's losses in 2011, 2014, and against the Warriors are etched in my memory, making it impossible for me to rank him above MJ. Given the choice, I'd trust Jordan to take the last shot for my life over LeBron without hesitation.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:marson wrote:Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
Lebron is on roids
and just because he's playing at 40 doesn't make his peak greater than MJ's
like what.
I hate the fact that we have MJ's jersey displayed in the rafters at the Heat stadium, but as a child of the 90s who witnessed his second three-peat, I firmly believe he's the GOAT. LeBron's losses in 2011, 2014, and against the Warriors are etched in my memory, making it impossible for me to rank him above MJ. Given the choice, I'd trust Jordan to take the last shot for my life over LeBron without hesitation.
You hold him losing against the most stacked team ever against him? In my mind KD is still ring less lol. 2014 as much as I hate to say it was probably mainly on Wade, his knees were cooked after 4 long postseason runs. I hold 2011 against him, make me sick to this day because it would’ve been 4 championships and 2 FMVPs for Wade but the others don’t hold much weight imo
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
We know he sucks but it seems he may have more value than we think, get it done Patrick!!!
DayofMourning wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
https://www.espn.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/paceFactor
2nd slowest.
Rapaz wrote:
Butler won’t like this if he doesn’t get his.
There’s trouble brewing in paradise and Mama Gayle is ready to pounce.
McCollum and Nance will love Sauf Beech.
HeatFan_NC wrote:We don't need to bring in a superstar. There are some serviceable guys out there that could use a change of scenery and be difference makers that put us over the top. Look at what an average Derrick White has become in Boston's system, or what KCP and Reggie Jackson are doing for DEN. Look how Naz Reid is helping MIN. Look at Brunson for the Knicks and Haliburton for the Pacers...some guys just need a change in order to become great. Herro might benefit from such a change. The following could be assets that help us out:
1. Andrew Wiggins
2. Norman Powell
3. Jerami Grant
4. Malcolm Brogdon
5. John Collins
6. Cam Jordan
7. DeAndre Hunter
8. Dejounte Murray
9. Bruce Brown
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
We know he sucks but it seems he may have more value than we think, get it done Patrick!!!
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
We know he sucks but it seems he may have more value than we think, get it done Patrick!!!
HeatFan_NC wrote:We don't need to bring in a superstar. There are some serviceable guys out there that could use a change of scenery and be difference makers that put us over the top. Look at what an average Derrick White has become in Boston's system, or what KCP and Reggie Jackson are doing for DEN. Look how Naz Reid is helping MIN. Look at Brunson for the Knicks and Haliburton for the Pacers...some guys just need a change in order to become great. Herro might benefit from such a change. The following could be assets that help us out:
1. Andrew Wiggins
2. Norman Powell
3. Jerami Grant
4. Malcolm Brogdon
5. John Collins
6. Cam Jordan
7. DeAndre Hunter
8. Dejounte Murray
9. Bruce Brown
marson wrote:Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
I was MJ all day up until a couple seasons ago, what LeBron has done at 40 is just unreal. This dude has been dominating the league for more than half of his life.
Yea talent is super different, LeBron is simply just the bigger stronger faster more skilled player between the 2. It’s not a diss to MJ, it just is what it is at this point.
What wild is, health permitting and if he can win championships Wemby is probably going to make all the MJ/LeBron debates all these years irrelevant lol
Lebron is on roids
and just because he's playing at 40 doesn't make his peak greater than MJ's
like what.
I hate the fact that we have MJ's jersey displayed in the rafters at the Heat stadium, but as a child of the 90s who witnessed his second three-peat, I firmly believe he's the GOAT. LeBron's losses in 2011, 2014, and against the Warriors are etched in my memory, making it impossible for me to rank him above MJ. Given the choice, I'd trust Jordan to take the last shot for my life over LeBron without hesitation.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Kobewade11 wrote:lebron against little dudes with his skillset
Wade is a better man than most. Cost him a chip, a finals MVP, and made him 'hand the keys over' on his own franchise.
Just quote me lil buddy, point still stands. NBA players today are for more skilled than they were back then, nothing wrong with admitting that
Chalm Downs wrote:his nickname is boywonder ffs
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:marson wrote:Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
Lebron is on roids
and just because he's playing at 40 doesn't make his peak greater than MJ's
like what.
I hate the fact that we have MJ's jersey displayed in the rafters at the Heat stadium, but as a child of the 90s who witnessed his second three-peat, I firmly believe he's the GOAT. LeBron's losses in 2011, 2014, and against the Warriors are etched in my memory, making it impossible for me to rank him above MJ. Given the choice, I'd trust Jordan to take the last shot for my life over LeBron without hesitation.
really? thats your only reason
because all I have to do is watch game tape to clearly see who is better.
nevermind the fact MJ craps all over him in accolades and accomplishments in a shorter amount of time.
lebron doesnt belong in GOAT conversations. the discussion is ridiculous. he never once dominated the league. never. his 2009 MVP was a sham because it should have gone to Dwayne Wade. at what point was lebron just dominating the nba? never happened. MJ dominated the league. Shaq dominated the league for a short time. Jokic is dominating the league now. Lebron, never.
he got some cheap easy rings by stacking teams, while averaging 26~ppg for 20 years and avoiding injury.
his post up game is suspect
his pull up jumper is trash
During the big 3 era, before Wade's knees caught up to him, lebron was exposed as the 2nd best player on the Heat, after Wade. We all know it.
and his drives to the basket wouldn't work in MJ's era, when bigs actually waited in the paint... before they instituted the defensive 3 second rule in 2001. lebron would just pass it back out because he is not a dominant scorer. whereas MJ was.