Aaron Gordon says Scottie Barnes when asked about "guy miscast in role as star who might excel as the ultimate glue guy"

[SFour]

I mean ideally you would want Scottie to be the 3rd best player on your team....you would be a strong championship contender at that point.

[Indeed]

Scottie is already better than Gordon ever was.

You could make the case that he’s a better Draymond Green, which is an “All star level connector player”


To win around Scottie, you need a Jamal Murray like scoring guard, a 3&D wing defender, and a stretch C.
Maybe IQ is the scoring guard. We’re missing the other 2 main ingredients.

Scottie needs to make a major leap in his scoring ability to make it work.

Major leap if IQ is the scoring guard, or we find an alpha to score in isolation at clutch and Barnes may only need some more improvement, best Barrett is able to take that role. His defense will also need to be improved more than just a free roam defender, as the 3&D wing (forward) defender and a stretch C would do.

Furthermore, the question is, if we have an alpha, how much can we afford to pay him?

[HumbleRen]

Scottie is already better than Gordon ever was.

You could make the case that he’s a better Draymond Green, which is an “All star level connector player”


To win around Scottie, you need a Jamal Murray like scoring guard, a 3&D wing defender, and a stretch C.
Maybe IQ is the scoring guard. We’re missing the other 2 main ingredients.

Scottie needs to make a major leap in his scoring ability to make it work.

Major leap if IQ is the scoring guard, or we find an alpha to score in isolation at clutch and Barnes may only need some more improvement, best Barrett is able to take that role. His defense will also need to be improved more than just a free roam defender, as the 3&D wing (forward) defender and a stretch C would do.

Furthermore, the question is, if we have an alpha, how much can we afford to pay him?

If RJ is our best scorer next year, we have a lot of big problems in terms of the future of this franchise.

Scottie at bare minimum needs to be a much better scorer than RJ next year.

[DreamTeam09]

His game isn't going to be aesthetically of a superstar & that's alright. He's too big, smart, hungry and just too good not to impact the game in a major way

[Tor_Raps]

I see nothing wrong with his comment if he's speaking about Barnes at this moment in time. No one knows how a guy will truly improve so his answer can change at that point. Who the hell would have said Brunson would be the best player to lead a team to the Eastern Conference Finals 3 years ago?

This will be on Scottie to show he's more than a Gordon type of player because at the moment, he'd be an awesome number 3 on a championship team. This should be seen as a compliment considering he's only 3 years into his career. You cant say that about any of his draft class peers at the moment.

[will]

Real talk, Scottish isn't going to be a consistent go-to scorer.

I'll keep beating the 'souped-up Shane Battier' drum.

[will]

Scottie needs to make a major leap in his scoring ability to make it work.

Major leap if IQ is the scoring guard, or we find an alpha to score in isolation at clutch and Barnes may only need some more improvement, best Barrett is able to take that role. His defense will also need to be improved more than just a free roam defender, as the 3&D wing (forward) defender and a stretch C would do.

Furthermore, the question is, if we have an alpha, how much can we afford to pay him?

If RJ is our best scorer next year, we have a lot of big problems in terms of the future of this franchise.

Scottie at bare minimum needs to be a much better scorer than RJ next year.

I see Immanuel being the better scorer. He's really good at getting to the line and hitting his FT. Compared to RJ, he is way more consistent with the 3 ball.

[Senbonzakura]

I mean this is obvious. Scottie isn't a top 10 in the NBA type talent. He's Pippen.

[brownbobcat]

Major leap if IQ is the scoring guard, or we find an alpha to score in isolation at clutch and Barnes may only need some more improvement, best Barrett is able to take that role. His defense will also need to be improved more than just a free roam defender, as the 3&D wing (forward) defender and a stretch C would do.

Furthermore, the question is, if we have an alpha, how much can we afford to pay him?

If RJ is our best scorer next year, we have a lot of big problems in terms of the future of this franchise.

Scottie at bare minimum needs to be a much better scorer than RJ next year.

I see Immanuel being the better scorer. He's really good at getting to the line and hitting his FT. Compared to RJ, he is way more consistent with the 3 ball.

It's more than that, RJ improved his efficiency a ton by cutting out the midrange but the problem is that the midrange is practically unavoidable for a lead scorer. Someone has to take the tough shots at the end of the day.

[TheGeneral99]

I mean this is obvious. Scottie isn't a top 10 in the NBA type talent. He's Pippen.

Pippen was a legitimate all-star and #2 option.

Gordon is being asked who is the current guy that is not really but to be an all-star, but would excel best as a glue guy role player on a contender.

[tdotrep2]

if you squint this comp makes sense. But it falls apart when you realize scottie can play make at an elite level and glue guys just finish what the playmakers generally start. You don't see Aaron gordon attacking to draw help and hit open guys.

[ItsDanger]

I always felt Scottie was more like Shawn Marion/Rasheed Wallace type of player. Do everything but not the 1st scoring option. If that's accurate, what is management doing to address the roster's needs then? Hoping Scottie exceeds expectations seems like the strategy here.

[will]

If RJ is our best scorer next year, we have a lot of big problems in terms of the future of this franchise.

Scottie at bare minimum needs to be a much better scorer than RJ next year.

I see Immanuel being the better scorer. He's really good at getting to the line and hitting his FT. Compared to RJ, he is way more consistent with the 3 ball.

It's more than that, RJ improved his efficiency a ton by cutting out the midrange but the problem is that the midrange is practically unavoidable for a lead scorer. Someone has to take the tough shots at the end of the day.

At this point with how the roster is constructed, you and I could contribute 5 PPG to the squad.

[2019nbachamps]

What's with the defensiveness. Gordon is a stand up guy and he might be right here.

[will]

if you squint this comp makes sense. But it falls apart when you realize scottie can play make at an elite level and glue guys just finish what the playmakers generally start. You don't see Aaron gordon attacking to draw help and hit open guys.

Well...we did when Aaron was the go-to guy in ORL. Ended poorly. Hell, it never really worked. Hence, they traded him and got better. Aaron ended up on a 'chip squad where he is a glue guy. Win/win, I say.

[will]

What's with the defensiveness. Gordon is a stand up guy and he might be right here.

It's our Raps realgm board. Any sort of criticism...people get offended or defensive

[will]

I mean this is obvious. Scottie isn't a top 10 in the NBA type talent. He's Pippen.

Pippen was a legitimate all-star and #2 option.

Gordon is being asked who is the current guy that is not really but to be an all-star, but would excel best as a glue guy role player on a contender.

If Scottish ends up being half the player Scottie Maurice Pippen was...yeah, that will be a great thing for the Raptors.

[Indeed]

If RJ is our best scorer next year, we have a lot of big problems in terms of the future of this franchise.

Scottie at bare minimum needs to be a much better scorer than RJ next year.

I see Immanuel being the better scorer. He's really good at getting to the line and hitting his FT. Compared to RJ, he is way more consistent with the 3 ball.

It's more than that, RJ improved his efficiency a ton by cutting out the midrange but the problem is that the midrange is practically unavoidable for a lead scorer. Someone has to take the tough shots at the end of the day.

Or we can agree that none of our guys would be efficient being the #1 option. Unsure how much room we have on defense either.
Looking forward to 2025 top 5 picks, I think it is more deep.

[DelAbbot]

Aaron Gordon should have said Pascal Siakam as the ultimate glue guy. Scottie can do more than that.

[TheGeneral99]

if you squint this comp makes sense. But it falls apart when you realize scottie can play make at an elite level and glue guys just finish what the playmakers generally start. You don't see Aaron gordon attacking to draw help and hit open guys.

Well...we did when Aaron was the go-to guy in ORL. Ended poorly. Hell, it never really worked. Hence, they traded him and got better. Aaron ended up on a 'chip squad where he is a glue guy. Win/win, I say.

The thing is that there are 10-15 non all-star guys in the league that you could plug instead of Gordon on the Nuggets and produce similar results:

I'm very confident that OG, Brooks, Barrett, Wiggins, Portis, Isaac, Hachimura, Collins, Cameron Johnson etc etc. would have similar or even better overall production playing next to Joker.