Garland to ask out if Mitchell extended

[Bobbymcgee]

Garland to the Magic makes a lot of sense for both teams.

[ogmagicfan]

I think the cost would be too high.
If Mitchell stays, Cleveland decides that Okoro is a 2G or a SF. Then the trade request for Garland becomes either Suggs and filler or F. Wagner and filler.
Not sure Magic would want to give up either.

Franz is a 2 way young star, wouldnt make sense to trade him for Garland

Same with Suggs, the whole point of getting Garland is we could place Suggs next to him so he can cover his defensive weaknesses as much as possible

Anthony Black, Mo Wagner, Gary Harris (S&T), future 1st round pick unprotected, & 2025 Den 1st round makes sense

Anthony Black to compliment Mitchell defensively and shot well from 3 specifically C&S

Gary Harris shoots well from 3

Mo Wagner provides depth at the Center position for the inevitable Jarrett Allen trade

and a couple 1st rounders for yall to move for more pieces/depth

Lets assume that Jarrett Allen gets traded for Ingram

Mitchell
Black
Ingram
Wade
Mobley

is alot better as a starting five specifically complimentary than what yall had this past season

Don't love that deal on the Cavs side but if I were the Cavs, I would covet Black next to Mitchell.

There definitely room for tweaking on the trade from the Magic's side. I was playing it on the lower end not knowing how concerned the Magic might be about Garland's injuries and subsequently his contract size

If another 1st was necessary, I'd fold if there's reasonable protections on it

Agree about Black, his length and ability to impact the game even with lower usage is a great fit next to Mitchell. The growth he's shown in his shooting this season was really impressive, shot form got so much more fluid and quicker

This Cavs team would easily be a top 5 defensive team if their weak points were Mitchell & Ingram considering theyre average defenders atleast when they put in the effort

[JujitsuFlip]

Would you like the fit for the Magic?

I think the cost would be too high.
If Mitchell stays, Cleveland decides that Okoro is a 2G or a SF. Then the trade request for Garland becomes either Suggs and filler or F. Wagner and filler.
Not sure Magic would want to give up either.

Franz is a 2 way young star, wouldnt make sense to trade him for Garland

Same with Suggs, the whole point of getting Garland is we could place Suggs next to him so he can cover his defensive weaknesses as much as possible

Anthony Black, Mo Wagner, Gary Harris (S&T), future 1st round pick unprotected, & 2025 Den 1st round makes sense

Anthony Black to compliment Mitchell defensively and shot well from 3 specifically C&S

Gary Harris shoots well from 3

Mo Wagner provides depth at the Center position for the inevitable Jarrett Allen trade

and a couple 1st rounders for yall to move for more pieces/depth

Lets assume that Jarrett Allen gets traded for Ingram

Mitchell
Black
Ingram
Wade
Mobley

is alot better as a starting five specifically complimentary than what yall had this past season

if yall move a 1st rounder for Dorian Finney or Royce O Neal, the depth off the bench is gonna be nice too.

Craig Porter, Gary Harris, Dorian Finney, Mo Wagner

Hard pass, Magic giving up scraps for a former All-Star PG? No thanks.

[basketballRob]

I think the cost would be too high.
If Mitchell stays, Cleveland decides that Okoro is a 2G or a SF. Then the trade request for Garland becomes either Suggs and filler or F. Wagner and filler.
Not sure Magic would want to give up either.

Franz is a 2 way young star, wouldnt make sense to trade him for Garland

Same with Suggs, the whole point of getting Garland is we could place Suggs next to him so he can cover his defensive weaknesses as much as possible

Anthony Black, Mo Wagner, Gary Harris (S&T), future 1st round pick unprotected, & 2025 Den 1st round makes sense

Anthony Black to compliment Mitchell defensively and shot well from 3 specifically C&S

Gary Harris shoots well from 3

Mo Wagner provides depth at the Center position for the inevitable Jarrett Allen trade

and a couple 1st rounders for yall to move for more pieces/depth

Lets assume that Jarrett Allen gets traded for Ingram

Mitchell
Black
Ingram
Wade
Mobley

is alot better as a starting five specifically complimentary than what yall had this past season

if yall move a 1st rounder for Dorian Finney or Royce O Neal, the depth off the bench is gonna be nice too.

Craig Porter, Gary Harris, Dorian Finney, Mo Wagner

Hard pass, Magic giving up scraps for a former All-Star PG? No thanks.

Garland could decide he doesn't want to play with Paolo when he gets Orlando. I think they'll just use their $32m-$43m room that they have this season. It's sounds like their is mutual interest between Klay Thompson and the Magic

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[ForeverTFC]

As a Cavs fan, I wanted them to trade Garland and Allen LAST offseason, but for some reason they thought the obvious mismatch in fit with no offensive big (with Allen and Mobley), and two ball dominate small guards would work???!! It was pretty obvious that the playoffs last year against the Knicks proved the lack of fit. Now, they are probably ready to trade Allen and Garland, even though Garland's value is down due to the fit, as well as Allen's sitting out 8 games in the playoffs, and being roasted by the Knicks last year.

I really think Mitchell wants to stay WITH changes promised, being coach and Garland gone, along with Allen. Should be an interesting offseason for Cavs.

We've seen time and time again that pursuing 2 strategies at once doesn't work. Warriors are the obvious example. My Raptors somewhat fit the mold as well. The same seems to be coming true for Cleveland. I have no issue with them going for it, but they kept on to Garland because of the worry that Mitchell would leave. I understand wanting to hedge, but that is turning out to be too big of a hedge. If they were able to get a wing in this roster for Garland when his value was sky high, the narrative is likely very different now.

[ogmagicfan]

I think the cost would be too high.
If Mitchell stays, Cleveland decides that Okoro is a 2G or a SF. Then the trade request for Garland becomes either Suggs and filler or F. Wagner and filler.
Not sure Magic would want to give up either.

Franz is a 2 way young star, wouldnt make sense to trade him for Garland

Same with Suggs, the whole point of getting Garland is we could place Suggs next to him so he can cover his defensive weaknesses as much as possible

Anthony Black, Mo Wagner, Gary Harris (S&T), future 1st round pick unprotected, & 2025 Den 1st round makes sense

Anthony Black to compliment Mitchell defensively and shot well from 3 specifically C&S

Gary Harris shoots well from 3

Mo Wagner provides depth at the Center position for the inevitable Jarrett Allen trade

and a couple 1st rounders for yall to move for more pieces/depth

Lets assume that Jarrett Allen gets traded for Ingram

Mitchell
Black
Ingram
Wade
Mobley

is alot better as a starting five specifically complimentary than what yall had this past season

if yall move a 1st rounder for Dorian Finney or Royce O Neal, the depth off the bench is gonna be nice too.

Craig Porter, Gary Harris, Dorian Finney, Mo Wagner

Hard pass, Magic giving up scraps for a former All-Star PG? No thanks.

Last yr's 6th pick is scraps?

I agree that the trade needs work though, getting a 3rd team involved would benefit both parties

Magic sends out: Anthony Black, Gary Harris, Mo Wagner, Unprotected 1st 2025, Den 2025 1st Rounder, Orlando 2027 1st Round (Top 20 Protected)
Magic receive: Garland

Cavs send out: Garland
Cavs receive: Anthony Black, Cam Johnson, Mo Wagner, Orlando Unprotected 1st 2025,

Nets send out: Cam Johnson
Nets receive: Gary Harris, Orlando 2027 1st Rounder, Den 2025 1st Rounder

[basketballRob]

Franz is a 2 way young star, wouldnt make sense to trade him for Garland

Same with Suggs, the whole point of getting Garland is we could place Suggs next to him so he can cover his defensive weaknesses as much as possible

Anthony Black, Mo Wagner, Gary Harris (S&T), future 1st round pick unprotected, & 2025 Den 1st round makes sense

Anthony Black to compliment Mitchell defensively and shot well from 3 specifically C&S

Gary Harris shoots well from 3

Mo Wagner provides depth at the Center position for the inevitable Jarrett Allen trade

and a couple 1st rounders for yall to move for more pieces/depth

Lets assume that Jarrett Allen gets traded for Ingram

Mitchell
Black
Ingram
Wade
Mobley

is alot better as a starting five specifically complimentary than what yall had this past season

if yall move a 1st rounder for Dorian Finney or Royce O Neal, the depth off the bench is gonna be nice too.

Craig Porter, Gary Harris, Dorian Finney, Mo Wagner

Hard pass, Magic giving up scraps for a former All-Star PG? No thanks.

Last yr's 6th pick is scraps?

I agree that the trade needs work though, getting a 3rd team involved would benefit both parties

Magic sends out: Anthony Black, Gary Harris, Mo Wagner, Unprotected 1st 2025, Den 2025 1st Rounder, Orlando 2027 1st Round (Top 20 Protected)
Magic receive: Garland

Cavs send out: Garland
Cavs receive: Anthony Black, Cam Johnson, Mo Wagner, Orlando Unprotected 1st 2025,

Nets send out: Cam Johnson
Nets receive: Gary Harris, Orlando 2027 1st Rounder, Den 2025 1st Rounder

I like Cam more than Garland for us. Wendell, Cam, Paolo, Franz, Suggs.

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[Roddy B for 3]

If a team traded assets for Garland they will probably max him

[WentzerWuver]

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Rich Paul would send him to Lebron's way as their new PG in return for Dlo and Hood-Schifino.

[WentzerWuver]

I'm going to laugh when the Cavs end up extending Mitchell and trading Garland to the Lakers for LeBron.

Lebron is worth a Mobley plus change.

Garland is a streaky shooter like Dlo.

[jbk1234]

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Rich Paul would send him to Lebron's way as their new PG in return for Dlo and Hood-Schifino.

Don't be shocked when the deal is LBJ and picks for Garland.

[mcfly1204]

I'm going to laugh when the Cavs end up extending Mitchell and trading Garland to the Lakers for LeBron.

Lebron is worth a Mobley plus change.

Garland is a streaky shooter like Dlo.

Russell wasn't even an average shooter until his 8th season. Outside of Garland's rookie season, he's been considered an above average shooter.

[KazuoOda]

Obviously Mitchell isn't extending and he never was. I don't get the point of this.

Lol ok

You think he's extending?

You can believe what you want and only time will tell but what's been put out all season, I say there's a great chance he extends.

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[durden_tyler]

Lol ok

You think he's extending?

You can believe what you want and only time will tell but what's been put out all season, I say there's a great chance he extends.

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Famous last words before signing with another team, we've seen this before.

[ForeverTFC]

You think he's extending?

You can believe what you want and only time will tell but what's been put out all season, I say there's a great chance he extends.

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Famous last words before signing with another team, we've seen this before.

Even if he re-signs, who says he doesn’t ask out in 1-2 years? Cleveland should either go for it or trade him.

[jbk1234]

You can believe what you want and only time will tell but what's been put out all season, I say there's a great chance he extends.

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Famous last words before signing with another team, we've seen this before.

Even if he re-signs, who says he doesn’t ask out in 1-2 years? Cleveland should either go for it or trade him.

Will he not have trade value in 2 years? Won't he have more trade value if he's got 2 years left on his extension instead of one?

[Wingy]

Garland could decide he doesn't want to play with Paolo when he gets Orlando. I think they'll just use their $32m-$43m room that they have this season. It's sounds like their is mutual interest between Klay Thompson and the Magic

Oof. Orlando GM should flat out resign if he wastes that money on Klay.

[basketballRob]

Garland could decide he doesn't want to play with Paolo when he gets Orlando. I think they'll just use their $32m-$43m room that they have this season. It's sounds like their is mutual interest between Klay Thompson and the Magic

Oof. Orlando GM should flat out resign if he wastes that money on Klay.

He probably gets a 2-yr inflated deal. Like 2-yrs. $60m. He's still a good player.


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[afarmenian]

I think the cost would be too high.
If Mitchell stays, Cleveland decides that Okoro is a 2G or a SF. Then the trade request for Garland becomes either Suggs and filler or F. Wagner and filler.
Not sure Magic would want to give up either.

Franz is a 2 way young star, wouldnt make sense to trade him for Garland

Same with Suggs, the whole point of getting Garland is we could place Suggs next to him so he can cover his defensive weaknesses as much as possible

Anthony Black, Mo Wagner, Gary Harris (S&T), future 1st round pick unprotected, & 2025 Den 1st round makes sense

Anthony Black to compliment Mitchell defensively and shot well from 3 specifically C&S

Gary Harris shoots well from 3

Mo Wagner provides depth at the Center position for the inevitable Jarrett Allen trade

and a couple 1st rounders for yall to move for more pieces/depth

Lets assume that Jarrett Allen gets traded for Ingram

Mitchell
Black
Ingram
Wade
Mobley

is alot better as a starting five specifically complimentary than what yall had this past season

if yall move a 1st rounder for Dorian Finney or Royce O Neal, the depth off the bench is gonna be nice too.

Craig Porter, Gary Harris, Dorian Finney, Mo Wagner

Hard pass, Magic giving up scraps for a former All-Star PG? No thanks.

I would imagine most Cavs fans would feel that way but I can't imagine he'd be worth much more than that.

I mean what does former All-Star have to do with anything? he's playing nowhere near that level and can't stay healthy and rival NBA GMS have the same film that we have

they see the flaws everyone else does and his contract.

It's either something like that or another talented but flawed player on a bloated contract

[ForeverTFC]

Famous last words before signing with another team, we've seen this before.

Even if he re-signs, who says he doesn’t ask out in 1-2 years? Cleveland should either go for it or trade him.

Will he not have trade value in 2 years? Won't he have more trade value if he's got 2 years left on his extension instead of one?

He will. My point is that Cleveland shouldn’t be scared to just go for it (assuming he re-ups). If they’re just going to keep being paranoid about him leaving and making suboptimal roster decisions as a result, then just move on.