Joel Embiid Hypothetical Trade Thread

[zaz102]

Giddey is not a star, you'd need to include Jalen Williams to have any chance of Morey saying yes to this. Giddey is the antithesis of the type of player Morey would want.

I'm talking about Chet. I could care less about Giddey. He's neutral value imo

You need more than Chet. Embiid should get you one of the biggest hauls in NBA history. Usually that would be 3 young players and 4-5 first round picks. Least 1-2 of them would need to be players who are all-stars or had all star potential.

This deal would only have 1 of them.

Fair enough, but having Maxey, Chet on a small deal, having 9 1sts, and cap space sounds like a very good place to be in. Hell, it's pretty close to just swapping places with the current OKC team.

[eyeatoma]

I'm talking about Chet. I could care less about Giddey. He's neutral value imo

You need more than Chet. Embiid should get you one of the biggest hauls in NBA history. Usually that would be 3 young players and 4-5 first round picks. Least 1-2 of them would need to be players who are all-stars or had all star potential.

This deal would only have 1 of them.

Fair enough, but having Maxey, Chet on a small deal, having 9 1sts, and cap space sounds like a very good place to be in. Hell, it's pretty close to just swapping places with the current OKC team.

You also take a huge hit on offense. SGA is superior to Maxey offensively. It would be s good start but knowing Morey he'd act like Danny Ainge.

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[mjkvol]

No one is asking why OKC, which has a really good young team ready to compete every season for the near future, would even want to make a deal for Embiid, and especially parting with core players to do it. They have the ammo to add a good player if they so choose without giving up SGA, Chet, or Williams.

[76ciology]

No one is asking why OKC, which has a really good young team ready to compete every season for the near future, would even want to make a deal for Embiid, and especially parting with core players to do it. They have the ammo to add a good player if they so choose without giving up SGA, Chet, or Williams.

I think every GM would entertain any opportunity to put their team in a position to be the best team to win a championship, which could be possible with Embiid at OKC.

If OKC trades Jalen Williams and some picks for Embiid, they could build a team where Embiid has a reduced workload, keeping him fresh when needed most. Embiid could share the offensive burden with SGA, allowing him to perform at his best.

[Jhawk03]

No one is asking why OKC, which has a really good young team ready to compete every season for the near future, would even want to make a deal for Embiid, and especially parting with core players to do it. They have the ammo to add a good player if they so choose without giving up SGA, Chet, or Williams.

I think every GM would entertain any opportunity to put their team in a position to be the best team to win a championship, which could be possible with Embiid at OKC.

If OKC trades Jalen Williams and some picks for Embiid, they could build a team where Embiid has a reduced workload, keeping him fresh when needed most. Embiid could share the offensive burden with SGA, allowing him to perform at his best.

I'll say this again, whichever team receives Embiid (in this hypothetical case OKC) will be able to retain the necessary players... offload draft picks... and win a championship. Personally speaking, AGAIN,,, I have no interest in gifting a team a championship. Especially considering the irony that the last time a team was GIFTED a player with the impact like Embiid will have, it resulted in a lucky bounce, a crying meme, and trading a player we're still entertaining trying to bring back.

NO NO NO

[mjkvol]

No one is asking why OKC, which has a really good young team ready to compete every season for the near future, would even want to make a deal for Embiid, and especially parting with core players to do it. They have the ammo to add a good player if they so choose without giving up SGA, Chet, or Williams.

I think every GM would entertain any opportunity to put their team in a position to be the best team to win a championship, which could be possible with Embiid at OKC.

If OKC trades Jalen Williams and some picks for Embiid, they could build a team where Embiid has a reduced workload, keeping him fresh when needed most. Embiid could share the offensive burden with SGA, allowing him to perform at his best.

Two things:

1. I don't see why OKC, a young ascending team with three premier complimentary, improving talents, a deep core, and a ton of draft ammo, would shorten their window even a little bit bringing in an expensive older player who they would have to change their scheme to fit and who needs the ball to be effective. It makes zero sense, especially giving up even one of those great young players on rookie deals.

2. Morey would be strung up if he traded Embiid without getting back two of Chet, SGA, or Jalen along with a boatload of those picks, and Presti should be strung up if he was stupid enough to make a deal like that.

I understand the whole 'fantasy trade' thing, but this one has absolutely no shot unless someone loses their mind, which I suppose is always possible.

[mjkvol]

No one is asking why OKC, which has a really good young team ready to compete every season for the near future, would even want to make a deal for Embiid, and especially parting with core players to do it. They have the ammo to add a good player if they so choose without giving up SGA, Chet, or Williams.

I think every GM would entertain any opportunity to put their team in a position to be the best team to win a championship, which could be possible with Embiid at OKC.

If OKC trades Jalen Williams and some picks for Embiid, they could build a team where Embiid has a reduced workload, keeping him fresh when needed most. Embiid could share the offensive burden with SGA, allowing him to perform at his best.

I'll say this again, whichever team receives Embiid (in this hypothetical case OKC) will be able to retain the necessary players... offload draft picks... and win a championship. Personally speaking, AGAIN,,, I have no interest in gifting a team a championship. Especially considering the irony that the last time a team was GIFTED a player with the impact like Embiid will have, it resulted in a lucky bounce, a crying meme, and trading a player we're still entertaining trying to bring back.

NO NO NO

To me, it isn't about 'woe is us again', it's the absurdity of the idea itself.

The idea of trading Embiid right now is idiotic on its face - we aren't getting anything close to equal value back, because 'equal value' is a relative term that means entirely different things to either side. The other team is trading for Embiid as a 'final piece', so they aren't giving up their most valued assets, while we are giving up 'the franchise', and will be in rebuilding mode getting anything less than what would be considered 'equal value' from our point of view. Which is never happening.

The whole idea is idiotic, and the only reason this thread exists is because of a troll's need to draw even more attention to his bizarre hard on for Embiid. The three trades suggested in the OP are nothing short of laughable. Enough.

[Ferry Avenue]

I think every GM would entertain any opportunity to put their team in a position to be the best team to win a championship, which could be possible with Embiid at OKC.

If OKC trades Jalen Williams and some picks for Embiid, they could build a team where Embiid has a reduced workload, keeping him fresh when needed most. Embiid could share the offensive burden with SGA, allowing him to perform at his best.

I'll say this again, whichever team receives Embiid (in this hypothetical case OKC) will be able to retain the necessary players... offload draft picks... and win a championship. Personally speaking, AGAIN,,, I have no interest in gifting a team a championship. Especially considering the irony that the last time a team was GIFTED a player with the impact like Embiid will have, it resulted in a lucky bounce, a crying meme, and trading a player we're still entertaining trying to bring back.

NO NO NO

To me, it isn't about 'woe is us again', it's the absurdity of the idea itself.

The idea of trading Embiid right now is idiotic on its face - we aren't getting anything close to equal value back, because 'equal value' is a relative term that means entirely different things to either side. The other team is trading for Embiid as a 'final piece', so they aren't giving up their most valued assets, while we are giving up 'the franchise', and will be in rebuilding mode getting anything less than what would be considered 'equal value' from our point of view. Which is never happening.

The whole idea is idiotic, and the only reason this thread exists is because of a troll's need to draw even more attention to his bizarre hard on for Embiid. The three trades suggested in the OP are nothing short of laughable. Enough.

If you don’t get any traction by just calling out the thread without participating in the actual topic, well then I guess you can join the rest of us and participate in the topic while calling it out at the same time. What desperation — LOL. Keep trying!

[mjkvol]

I'll say this again, whichever team receives Embiid (in this hypothetical case OKC) will be able to retain the necessary players... offload draft picks... and win a championship. Personally speaking, AGAIN,,, I have no interest in gifting a team a championship. Especially considering the irony that the last time a team was GIFTED a player with the impact like Embiid will have, it resulted in a lucky bounce, a crying meme, and trading a player we're still entertaining trying to bring back.

NO NO NO

To me, it isn't about 'woe is us again', it's the absurdity of the idea itself.

The idea of trading Embiid right now is idiotic on its face - we aren't getting anything close to equal value back, because 'equal value' is a relative term that means entirely different things to either side. The other team is trading for Embiid as a 'final piece', so they aren't giving up their most valued assets, while we are giving up 'the franchise', and will be in rebuilding mode getting anything less than what would be considered 'equal value' from our point of view. Which is never happening.

The whole idea is idiotic, and the only reason this thread exists is because of a troll's need to draw even more attention to his bizarre hard on for Embiid. The three trades suggested in the OP are nothing short of laughable. Enough.

If you don’t get any traction by just calling out the thread without participating in the actual topic, well then I guess you can join the rest of us and participate in the topic while calling it out at the same time. What desperation — LOL. Keep trying!

The topic is inane, and I simply pointed it out. But it gets you off, so carry on.

[76ciology]

No one is asking why OKC, which has a really good young team ready to compete every season for the near future, would even want to make a deal for Embiid, and especially parting with core players to do it. They have the ammo to add a good player if they so choose without giving up SGA, Chet, or Williams.

I think every GM would entertain any opportunity to put their team in a position to be the best team to win a championship, which could be possible with Embiid at OKC.

If OKC trades Jalen Williams and some picks for Embiid, they could build a team where Embiid has a reduced workload, keeping him fresh when needed most. Embiid could share the offensive burden with SGA, allowing him to perform at his best.

Two things:

1. I don't see why OKC, a young ascending team with three premier complimentary, improving talents, a deep core, and a ton of draft ammo, would shorten their window even a little bit bringing in an expensive older player who they would have to change their scheme to fit and who needs the ball to be effective. It makes zero sense, especially giving up even one of those great young players on rookie deals.

2. Morey would be strung up if he traded Embiid without getting back two of Chet, SGA, or Jalen along with a boatload of those picks, and Presti should be strung up if he was stupid enough to make a deal like that.

I understand the whole 'fantasy trade' thing, but this one has absolutely no shot unless someone loses their mind, which I suppose is always possible.

Honestly, I dont see it happening. What i see happening is we just run with Embiid until we get our pick back in 2027 or 2028.

[Stanford]

Every fanbase besides the Knicks hates Embiid. Why would we want to send him to somewhere that hates him.

[eyeatoma]

Every fanbase besides the Knicks hates Embiid. Why would we want to send him to somewhere that hates him.

They'd all love him the moment he came to their team. That's the funniest part.

[Mik317]

Embiid's position as a center, age and injury history makes his actual value difficult to really pin down IMO.

yeah he's a MVP level talent and is locked down on his contract too. No brainer right? But the above means he doesn't really fit into a lot of teams current or even short term timeline. Dallas for example would love to have Biid but trading him for Lively doesn't really do much for us does it? The OKC stuff is a pipedream as they will want to keep Chet and JDub in most deals as Biid is a final piece WITH them..they aren't going to rush their rebuild by giving up on that future.

So yeah its a moot point atm. Despite it all our best chance at a chip is still with Biid IMO..even if its much lower than it has been.

[eyeatoma]

Embiid's position as a center, age and injury history makes his actual value difficult to really pin down IMO.

yeah he's a MVP level talent and is locked down on his contract too. No brainer right? But the above means he doesn't really fit into a lot of teams current or even short term timeline. Dallas for example would love to have Biid but trading him for Lively doesn't really do much for us does it? The OKC stuff is a pipedream as they will want to keep Chet and JDub in most deals as Biid is a final piece WITH them..they aren't going to rush their rebuild by giving up on that future.

So yeah its a moot point atm. Despite it all our best chance at a chip is still with Biid IMO..even if its much lower than it has been.

Teams' that could realistically trade for Embiid, keep their team's intact, and benefit the Sixers.

OKC - Chet/Jalen Williams and picks
Cavs - Garland/Jarret Allen/Mobley and picks
Heat - Bam/Herro/Jaime Jasquez/Jovic and Picks
Hawks - Trae Young/Jalen Johnson and picks probably would be Murray instead of Trae
Hornets - Miles Bridges/Brandon Miller/Mark Williams and picks
Wolves - Towns/Gobert/McDaniels and picks
Mavericks - Kyrie/Lively and picks
Suns - Booker (got no picks) Still laughing at how badly they **** that up.
Kings - Sabonis/Keegan Murray/Monk and picks
Warriors - Klay/Kuminga picks
Jazz/ Lauri/Jordan Clarkson picks
Rockets / Sengun/Jabari Smith Jr./Amen Thompson and picks
Grizzlies / Jaren Jackson Jr/Desmond Bane and picks


Out of these teams, OKC/and Rockets/Grizzlies and possibly the Heat are the only ones who would really benefit the Sixers, and make this interesting for Morey. Yeah, he's not getting traded.

[Ferry Avenue]

Embiid's position as a center, age and injury history makes his actual value difficult to really pin down IMO.

yeah he's a MVP level talent and is locked down on his contract too. No brainer right? But the above means he doesn't really fit into a lot of teams current or even short term timeline. Dallas for example would love to have Biid but trading him for Lively doesn't really do much for us does it? The OKC stuff is a pipedream as they will want to keep Chet and JDub in most deals as Biid is a final piece WITH them..they aren't going to rush their rebuild by giving up on that future.

So yeah its a moot point atm. Despite it all our best chance at a chip is still with Biid IMO..even if its much lower than it has been.

Teams' that could realistically trade for Embiid, keep their team's intact, and benefit the Sixers.

OKC - Chet/Jalen Williams and picks
Cavs - Garland/Jarret Allen/Mobley and picks
Heat - Bam/Herro/Jaime Jasquez/Jovic and Picks
Hawks - Trae Young/Jalen Johnson and picks probably would be Murray instead of Trae
Hornets - Miles Bridges/Brandon Miller/Mark Williams and picks
Wolves - Towns/Gobert/McDaniels and picks
Mavericks - Kyrie/Lively and picks
Suns - Booker (got not picks)
Kings - Sabonis/Keegan Murray/Monk and picks
Warriors - Klay/Kuminga picks
Jazz/ Lauri/Jordan Clarkson picks
Rockets / Sengun/Jabari Smith Jr./Amen Thompson and picks
Grizzlies / Jaren Jackson Jr/Desmond Bane and picks


Out of these teams, OKC/and Rockets and possibly the Heat are the only ones who would really benefit the Sixers, and make this interesting for Morey. Yeah, he's not getting traded.

I would trade him for Booker in a heartbeat.

[eyeatoma]

Embiid's position as a center, age and injury history makes his actual value difficult to really pin down IMO.

yeah he's a MVP level talent and is locked down on his contract too. No brainer right? But the above means he doesn't really fit into a lot of teams current or even short term timeline. Dallas for example would love to have Biid but trading him for Lively doesn't really do much for us does it? The OKC stuff is a pipedream as they will want to keep Chet and JDub in most deals as Biid is a final piece WITH them..they aren't going to rush their rebuild by giving up on that future.

So yeah its a moot point atm. Despite it all our best chance at a chip is still with Biid IMO..even if its much lower than it has been.

Teams' that could realistically trade for Embiid, keep their team's intact, and benefit the Sixers.

OKC - Chet/Jalen Williams and picks
Cavs - Garland/Jarret Allen/Mobley and picks
Heat - Bam/Herro/Jaime Jasquez/Jovic and Picks
Hawks - Trae Young/Jalen Johnson and picks probably would be Murray instead of Trae
Hornets - Miles Bridges/Brandon Miller/Mark Williams and picks
Wolves - Towns/Gobert/McDaniels and picks
Mavericks - Kyrie/Lively and picks
Suns - Booker (got not picks)
Kings - Sabonis/Keegan Murray/Monk and picks
Warriors - Klay/Kuminga picks
Jazz/ Lauri/Jordan Clarkson picks
Rockets / Sengun/Jabari Smith Jr./Amen Thompson and picks
Grizzlies / Jaren Jackson Jr/Desmond Bane and picks


Out of these teams, OKC/and Rockets and possibly the Heat are the only ones who would really benefit the Sixers, and make this interesting for Morey. Yeah, he's not getting traded.

I would trade him for Booker in a heartbeat.

Watch us be a 35-40 win team max. Especially with no picks.

[GoSixersBro]

Maybe if Maxey busted an Embiid trade would be on the table, but the Sixers now have potentially two top 15 players after enduring the Simmons saga where they thought that was the case. NBA franchises don't just throw that away easily, especially in a market like Philly.

[Ferry Avenue]

Teams' that could realistically trade for Embiid, keep their team's intact, and benefit the Sixers.

OKC - Chet/Jalen Williams and picks
Cavs - Garland/Jarret Allen/Mobley and picks
Heat - Bam/Herro/Jaime Jasquez/Jovic and Picks
Hawks - Trae Young/Jalen Johnson and picks probably would be Murray instead of Trae
Hornets - Miles Bridges/Brandon Miller/Mark Williams and picks
Wolves - Towns/Gobert/McDaniels and picks
Mavericks - Kyrie/Lively and picks
Suns - Booker (got not picks)
Kings - Sabonis/Keegan Murray/Monk and picks
Warriors - Klay/Kuminga picks
Jazz/ Lauri/Jordan Clarkson picks
Rockets / Sengun/Jabari Smith Jr./Amen Thompson and picks
Grizzlies / Jaren Jackson Jr/Desmond Bane and picks


Out of these teams, OKC/and Rockets and possibly the Heat are the only ones who would really benefit the Sixers, and make this interesting for Morey. Yeah, he's not getting traded.

I would trade him for Booker in a heartbeat.

Watch us be a 35-40 win team max. Especially with no picks.

With Booker and Maxey spearheading the team, all of the role player acquisitions people are talking about start making sense. It makes sense to focus on role players when the appropriate engine of the team has been put in place.

[eyeatoma]

Maybe if Maxey busted an Embiid trade would be on the table, but the Sixers now have potentially two top 15 players after enduring the Simmons saga where they thought that was the case. NBA franchises don't just throw that away easily, especially in a market like Philly.

This is exactly it, and why my brain goes numb when people suggest that we trade him. We have the co-star next to him, and he's getting better every season. If healthy Embiid has 3 good seasons left him in, 2 at probably MVP level. You only get so many shots at the title, and Embiid gives you a nuclear warhead if he actually detonates.

[Ferry Avenue]

Maybe if Maxey busted an Embiid trade would be on the table, but the Sixers now have potentially two top 15 players after enduring the Simmons saga where they thought that was the case. NBA franchises don't just throw that away easily, especially in a market like Philly.

The best running back in the NFL might be a top player in the league as well, but he’s not getting anything done for you in the playoffs, where he’s very likely to get dominated by the best opposing quarterbacks in the league. Embiid versus Brunson (and Tatum, and Young, and Butler…) in a nutshell.

If you had the best running back in the NFL, would you trade him for one of the best quarterbacks?