2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2)

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Who wins and goes to the WCFs?

Thunder in 4
12
4%
Thunder in 5
30
9%
Thunder in 6
67
21%
Thunder in 7
39
12%
Mavericks in 4
3
1%
Mavericks in 5
13
4%
Mavericks in 6
128
39%
Mavericks in 7
34
10%
 
Total votes: 326

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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6321 » by sikma42 » Sun May 19, 2024 3:19 am

Baseline81 wrote:OKC fans won't want to hear this, but this series showed the Thunder were a phantom one seed.

That’s the thing. It cut through all their regular season success. The math doesn’t work. The loss of rebounding for added spacing is a regular season thing.


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They would all beat OKC in the playoffs.


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Post#6322 » by mademan » Sun May 19, 2024 3:20 am

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Thoroughly outplayed a clearly injured Luka except when it mattered the most. The Pels without Zion aren’t a playoff team and they were up against the 1 seed with an MVP candidate.


What are you going on about? SGA had a great game. SGA was clearly better these playoffs and in this series but the Mavs are better as a playoff team. The Thunder will come back better next season like the Mavs djd after some of their defeats in the past years.

Luka and the Mavs look very good and clearly have figured some things out from the losing they've done in the past - the same losing the OKC Thunder just went through.


I never said SGA had a bad game I just prefer the plays Luka made down the stretch of the last two games.

I never said the Thunder aren’t going to come back from this, they’ve probably for the brightest future out of all the teams. They’ve already got they superstar.

I’m just trying to keep the same energy. It seems some players/teams get the benefit of excuses others don’t.


Shai made the correct play every time down the stretch, what are you on? OKC wouldve died with like 2 min left if it wasnt for Shai making a play every time down the floor. Dallas won cause they had the last possession.

No doubt in my mind if OKC gets the ball back with 10 seconds left, theyre getting either a shai mid range, which is basically automatic, or dallas will double and they'll get an open look. He did everything he could for them to win the game. His teammates just went cold in the 4th from 3 while Dallas role players made their looks (and Lively gobbled up every offensive board)
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6323 » by Mavrelous » Sun May 19, 2024 3:21 am

Don't feed the trolls, Mavs beat #1 seed, while having their 6th man out and Luka hobbled for the 1st 4 games, Luka had positive on/off and on court rating in all games except game 1, but Luka didn't show up...
If Luka lost as the 1st seed, as the favourite, we wouldn't hear the end of it from the same people...
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6324 » by Chuck Everett » Sun May 19, 2024 3:21 am

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Johnny Firpo wrote:OKC finally diversified their offense better, we needed some luck too. OKC will be great, they need a point guard and a big, and they don't even have to be all-worlders. And they have the pieces too to make that happen. Such a great situation.

Personally I’d like to see the Thunder trade for Cade Cunningham. He hasn’t exactly been what they were hoping for in Detroit and could possibly be available. The Thunder have the assets to trade for him. I think Cade would flourish on this OKC team and his age fits their timeline.

Then go out and find a young defensive run running center. Nic Claxton?


Cade needs the ball in his hands. How is that going to work with SGA and Jalen Williams? He's not better than either guy.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6325 » by jerok » Sun May 19, 2024 3:22 am

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Thank you. Luka got roasted when he was 20 losing to prime Kawhi.

They didn’t play one on one- Luka got roasted and we all gave him a pass cause he was playing prime Kawhi to a damn near stand still-

But that Luka ain’t show up this series -

He has 7+ turn overs in back to back games that Dallas WON-

This Mavs team is complete in ways OKC isn’t -

To the victor goes the spoils-

Go Mavs


"Luka got roasted and we all gave him a pass cause he was playing prime Kawhi"

Just shows you're a clueless hater. Luka had an injured Porzingis the first 3 games of out 6 against Clippers, then Porzingis only scoring 13 ppg in the 2nd one. Luka averaged over 35 in the second series with all solid numbers and 32 in the first one at 20 and 21 years old. One of the starters in the second series was Boban, Brunson was averaging 8 ppg. It's a joke that anyone would blame Luka for either series, I don't care if he's 30 years old. He didn't need a pass he did everything possible but he had no teammates. It's like blaming Michael Jordan for getting swept against the super Celtics before he had Pippen nobody can just win by themselves.

If you're going to blame Luka for that you better blame Shai for losing this series. He had better teammates than Luka did and is 5 years older. I actually don't I give Shai credit, but I want YOU to be consistent.


Yet you roast Lebron for everything in his first Cavs stint
Hypocrite much?

Luka is unbelievable, one of the greater floor raisers we've seen.
Like LeBron was/is.
Now Luka has a squad, hopefully they win this year.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6326 » by WestbrookGOATed » Sun May 19, 2024 3:23 am

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vulture wrote:If Chet doesn’t get bullied by a rookie OKC wins that game. He has all summer to add strength
OKC needs to add some guys with him too. Dallas has multiple guys hit the glass too.

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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6327 » by mademan » Sun May 19, 2024 3:23 am

sikma42 wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:OKC fans won't want to hear this, but this series showed the Thunder were a phantom one seed.

That’s the thing. It cut through all their regular season success. The math doesn’t work. The loss of rebounding for added spacing is a regular season thing.


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They would all beat OKC in the playoffs.


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You guys watched OKC get to within 5 seconds of a game 7 in the 2nd round and you reason they were just a RS team? lol. Dallas has been better than them for the past 30 or so games since they got their new rotation...

OKC isnt any worse that they lost to Dallas. Dallas has just been one of the 2-3 best teams in the NBA for a sustained period of time now.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6328 » by Texas Chuck » Sun May 19, 2024 3:23 am

Thunder fans had every right to call out Dallas fans itt for whining about the refs. Man, have they been insufferable all series. But then you lose that moral high ground you wanted so badly to claim with this rubbish. Richard Jefferson doesn't understand a rule and so you guys hold on to his incorrect explanation like grim death, while ignoring Javie telling you the actual rule.

And of course had no foul been called, Dallas still goes up 1 because Kyrie follows in it. Now you have a time out and can advance it, but even less time because the clock would have kept running.

OKC's odds of winning after than play were really low either way. So all this whining does you as much good as all the stupid Dort/SGA stuff did Mavs fans.

Dallas was getting killed in the first half because of really dumb turnovers than a 3 minute burst of great shooting by OKC. Not the refs. OKC didn't lose because of that last call either. Move the f on.

Note: to be clear, most Thunder fans understand the above crystal clear. But there are a few here that eat at a burrito joint.
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Post#6329 » by ChipotleWest » Sun May 19, 2024 3:24 am

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mademan wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
If you are fouled in the act of shooting then it should be a foul.

My point which is she's for you to understand, is that because he got ball first, the elbow is not a foul.

I eagerly await the NBA and their rulebook that describes this very scenario.

I don't expect mav fans to accept it. They can accept that ass whooping the next round though.


If you get ball first and the offensive player still has control, are you allowed to grab their arm after? That makes no sense. PJ still has a chance to make a shot there, even if its a small chance. Shai hitting his arm after removed that possibility

They called it a foul on the floor, reviewed and called it a foul with a good explanation by the ref in the commentator booth. There's no controversy here


This foul doesn't belong in the NBA. If you think it does then it's just a lifetime of NBA conditioning doing it's job.

He didn't grab his damn arm.

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ChipotleWest wrote:
I hope Mavs make the Finals because I got Mavs over Celtics and I challenge you to a bet loser leaves for a week. Unfortunately they don't have a cupcake like you do so they may or may not be there.


You mean KYRIE beating the Celtics in the finals ???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

That’s like hell on earth for Celtics :lol: 100 times worse than to loose to any other player

I like your idea


Dallas is a 4 to 0 sweep going the Celtics way. Ain't no one worried about that simpleton.

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You clearly comprehended what I said incorrectly. Go back and read it slowly .


I mean….

“Everything else after should be kosher. Including throwing his ass in the front row.“

You’re unhinged :lol:


NBA has everyone soft. You can't even get your hand on the ball anymore without there being rules on how you're allowed to do it.

It's wild.

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You reward the player for getting his hand on the ball. You don't call the contact on his arm AFTER the ball was touched.

It's never called like that.


If you disagree with it fine, but it's literally in the rulebook. Contact is allowed on the hand after the ball is touched. If the ball is still in hand and it was before Washington released the shot, it's a foul.

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Still waiting for someone to release the rule in the rule book that describes THIS scenario.


Would you shut up about the foul? Even Shai admits it.

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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6330 » by WestbrookGOATed » Sun May 19, 2024 3:25 am

Mavrelous wrote:Don't feed the trolls, Mavs beat #1 seed, while having their 6th man out and Luka hobbled for the 1st 4 games, Luka had positive on/off and on court rating in all games except game 1, but Luka didn't show up...
If Luka lost as the 1st seed, as the favourite, we wouldn't hear the end of it from the same people...
Different situations. OKCs first time in the playoffs, and both Kyrie and Luka have been in these moments dozens of times. But my question is, who is the Mavs 6th man? Kleber? :lol:
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6331 » by RB34 » Sun May 19, 2024 3:26 am

mademan wrote:
RB34 wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:
What are you going on about? SGA had a great game. SGA was clearly better these playoffs and in this series but the Mavs are better as a playoff team. The Thunder will come back better next season like the Mavs djd after some of their defeats in the past years.

Luka and the Mavs look very good and clearly have figured some things out from the losing they've done in the past - the same losing the OKC Thunder just went through.


I never said SGA had a bad game I just prefer the plays Luka made down the stretch of the last two games.

I never said the Thunder aren’t going to come back from this, they’ve probably for the brightest future out of all the teams. They’ve already got they superstar.

I’m just trying to keep the same energy. It seems some players/teams get the benefit of excuses others don’t.


Shai made the correct play every time down the stretch, what are you on? OKC wouldve died with like 2 min left if it wasnt for Shai making a play every time down the floor. Dallas won cause they had the last possession.

No doubt in my mind if OKC gets the ball back with 10 seconds left, theyre getting either a shai mid range, which is basically automatic, or dallas will double and they'll get an open look. He did everything he could for them to win the game. His teammates just went cold in the 4th from 3 while Dallas role players made their looks (and Lively gobbled up every offensive board)


What are you on? I didn’t say SGA made the wrong plays or that he wouldn’t have made another.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6332 » by garrick » Sun May 19, 2024 3:26 am

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He had Biyombo and Muscala sitting on the bench the entire series. Daigneault didn't even try them out for a single second. I agree that Presti should have went out and gotten a big worth a darn, instead of the corpse of Gordon Hayward, but I am pretty sure one of those guys could have at least played a 5 minute stretch in this series through six games.


Those 2 really can’t play in the playoffs. They will get destroyed in the pick and roll.
OKC needs a stout 4 so they can continue to play 5 out


Biyombo can't play in the pick and roll? That's like literally his entire reason for being in the NBA. He's in the NBA for defensive and rebounding purposes.


Biyombo is a liability at the free throw line so maybe its because of that.
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Post#6333 » by ChipotleWest » Sun May 19, 2024 3:27 am

This should end the debate about the last foul of the game, Shai admits it the refs admit it. Who do you think you are that you know more than the fouler and the refs? You're just a observer.

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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6334 » by The Corey's » Sun May 19, 2024 3:27 am

ChipotleWest wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
mademan wrote:
If you get ball first and the offensive player still has control, are you allowed to grab their arm after? That makes no sense. PJ still has a chance to make a shot there, even if its a small chance. Shai hitting his arm after removed that possibility

They called it a foul on the floor, reviewed and called it a foul with a good explanation by the ref in the commentator booth. There's no controversy here


This foul doesn't belong in the NBA. If you think it does then it's just a lifetime of NBA conditioning doing it's job.

He didn't grab his damn arm.

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
You mean KYRIE beating the Celtics in the finals ???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

That’s like hell on earth for Celtics :lol: 100 times worse than to loose to any other player

I like your idea


Dallas is a 4 to 0 sweep going the Celtics way. Ain't no one worried about that simpleton.

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I mean….

“Everything else after should be kosher. Including throwing his ass in the front row.“

You’re unhinged :lol:


NBA has everyone soft. You can't even get your hand on the ball anymore without there being rules on how you're allowed to do it.

It's wild.

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If you disagree with it fine, but it's literally in the rulebook. Contact is allowed on the hand after the ball is touched. If the ball is still in hand and it was before Washington released the shot, it's a foul.

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Still waiting for someone to release the rule in the rule book that describes THIS scenario.


Would you shut up about the foul? Even Shai admits it.

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Actually what he said was was he assumed it's a foul cause they looked at it.

He admitted to having NOT seen it.

Don't you have some parlays to go make?

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Clicking on your profile to confirm you was a Mavs fan and the first thing I see is you claiming the 06 finals was rigged.

Got it. When it doesn't go your way it's rigged and when it goes go your way I have to shut up.

Enjoy the beating coming next round.
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Post#6335 » by kacey ring » Sun May 19, 2024 3:28 am

Froob wrote:Dallas made the small trades to get the extra edge they needed, OKC didn’t



Gordon Hayward!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#6336 » by SweaterBae » Sun May 19, 2024 3:29 am

OKC was 28th? in the league in rebound rate. Their front office made no moves to correct a glaring weakness on their roster. They lost by 1 in a game in which they lost the battle on the boards by 17.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6337 » by ChipotleWest » Sun May 19, 2024 3:29 am

The Corey's wrote:
ChipotleWest wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
This foul doesn't belong in the NBA. If you think it does then it's just a lifetime of NBA conditioning doing it's job.

He didn't grab his damn arm.



Dallas is a 4 to 0 sweep going the Celtics way. Ain't no one worried about that simpleton.



NBA has everyone soft. You can't even get your hand on the ball anymore without there being rules on how you're allowed to do it.

It's wild.



Still waiting for someone to release the rule in the rule book that describes THIS scenario.


Would you shut up about the foul? Even Shai admits it.

Read on Twitter


Actually what he said was was he assumed it's a foul cause they looked at it.

He admitted to having NOT seen it.

Don't you have some parlays to go make?


You're such a troll you're not even a OKC fan. I hope Mavs can get to the FInals it'll be Mavs 4 Celtics 2. Those are all chokers they're not beating this Mavs team.

The only non choker is Jru Holiday and he isn't enough to make up for a team of chokers.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6338 » by Mavrelous » Sun May 19, 2024 3:29 am

WestbrookGOATed wrote:Different situations. OKCs first time in the playoffs, and both Kyrie and Luka have been in these moments dozens of times. But my question is, who is the Mavs 6th man? Kleber? :lol:

Yes, it's Kleber, why is that funny? And OKC, team and fans, should be very happy about this season, they exceeded any expectation, SGA proved he's MVP calibre player in the PO also, that doesn't mean anyone gets to use this decisive series win to knock on Luka...
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Post#6339 » by Rainwater » Sun May 19, 2024 3:30 am

ChipotleWest wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
mademan wrote:
If you get ball first and the offensive player still has control, are you allowed to grab their arm after? That makes no sense. PJ still has a chance to make a shot there, even if its a small chance. Shai hitting his arm after removed that possibility

They called it a foul on the floor, reviewed and called it a foul with a good explanation by the ref in the commentator booth. There's no controversy here


This foul doesn't belong in the NBA. If you think it does then it's just a lifetime of NBA conditioning doing it's job.

He didn't grab his damn arm.

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
You mean KYRIE beating the Celtics in the finals ???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

That’s like hell on earth for Celtics :lol: 100 times worse than to loose to any other player

I like your idea


Dallas is a 4 to 0 sweep going the Celtics way. Ain't no one worried about that simpleton.

KyRo23 wrote:
I mean….

“Everything else after should be kosher. Including throwing his ass in the front row.“

You’re unhinged :lol:


NBA has everyone soft. You can't even get your hand on the ball anymore without there being rules on how you're allowed to do it.

It's wild.

The Warrior wrote:
If you disagree with it fine, but it's literally in the rulebook. Contact is allowed on the hand after the ball is touched. If the ball is still in hand and it was before Washington released the shot, it's a foul.

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Still waiting for someone to release the rule in the rule book that describes THIS scenario.


Would you shut up about the foul? Even Shai admits it.

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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#6340 » by Yuri36 » Sun May 19, 2024 3:30 am

B-easy wrote:Mavs will beat Minnesota if they play them because they have elite rim protection for Edwards (nuggets/suns had none). Nuggets will be a challenge though.


It's funny as I think it's quite the reverse.
I favor Dallas much more against Denver than against Minnesota if only for the far superior perimeter defense of Minnesota comparing to Nuggets's backcourt defense....and against a team with Kyrie and Luka, needless to say that it's a critical part.

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