Jokic is not the best in the world, and has been heavily overrated (NOW YOU CAN CHANGE VOTES)

eyeatoma · Post #921 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:35 am

Joker is mortal. Incredible player, but people crowning him the GOAT for 3 MVPs, and his stellar advanced stats need to eat some humble pie.

The Wolves likely would have won last year as well if McDaniels wasn't hurt.

sfernald · Post #922 » by **sfernald** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:36 am

Crashed back to earth as his team eliminated in second round. Appears extremely overrated. Just one of several in this era like Anthony Davis and Giannis who have managed a single championship.

ForeverTFC · Post #923 » by **ForeverTFC** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:37 am

eyeatoma wrote:Joker is mortal. Incredible player, but people crowning him the GOAT for 3 MVPs, and his stellar advanced stats need to eat some humble pie.

The Wolves likely would have won last year as well if McDaniels was hurt.

eyeatoma · Post #924 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:37 am

sfernald wrote:Crashed back to earth as his team eliminated in second round. Appears extremely overrated. Just one of several in this era like Anthony Davis and Giannis who have managed a single championship.

Finally will have some peace this summer.

Post #925 » by **tsherkin** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:38 am

eyeatoma wrote:Joker is mortal. Incredible player, but people crowning him the GOAT for 3 MVPs, and his stellar advanced stats need to eat some humble pie.

Of course you would say this, despite how he actually played and the way this game actually unfolded. Remarkable.

3toheadmelo · Post #926 » by **3toheadmelo** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:38 am

rapstarter · Post #927 » by **rapstarter** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:39 am

eyeatoma wrote:
sfernald wrote:Crashed back to earth as his team eliminated in second round. Appears extremely overrated. Just one of several in this era like Anthony Davis and Giannis who have managed a single championship.

Finally will have some peace this summer.

Your guy got knocked out in the first round, and you are gonna have some peace? Turns out you were always more of a Joker hater than an Embiid fanboy lol

azcatz11 · Post #928 » by **azcatz11** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:39 am

eyeatoma wrote:Joker is mortal. Incredible player, but people crowning him the GOAT for 3 MVPs, and his stellar advanced stats need to eat some humble pie.

The Wolves likely would have won last year as well if McDaniels wasn't hurt.

Bro I feel like this is a bigger moment for you than if Bid won a title lol

eyeatoma · Post #929 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:39 am

tsherkin wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Joker is mortal. Incredible player, but people crowning him the GOAT for 3 MVPs, and his stellar advanced stats need to eat some humble pie.

Of course you would say this, despite how he actually played and the way this game actually unfolded. Remarkable.

Let's put it this way, if it were Embiid, would you be defending him if he had the exact same stats?

ForeverTFC · Post #930 » by **ForeverTFC** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:39 am

eyeatoma wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Joker is mortal. Incredible player, but people crowning him the GOAT for 3 MVPs, and his stellar advanced stats need to eat some humble pie.

Of course you would say this, despite how he actually played and the way this game actually unfolded. Remarkable.

Let's put it this way, if it were Embiid, would you be defending him if he had the exact same stats?

eyeatoma · Post #931 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:40 am

azcatz11 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Joker is mortal. Incredible player, but people crowning him the GOAT for 3 MVPs, and his stellar advanced stats need to eat some humble pie.

The Wolves likely would have won last year as well if McDaniels wasn't hurt.

Bro I feel like this is a bigger moment for you than if Bid won a title lol

Not really, just will be glad to see all these threads about him being the GOAT finally die. You can't lost a game 7 up 20, and have that on your resume.

I'm just excited that the Sixers have some assetts this summer to put an actual team around Embiid. Nuggets will need to decide what to do with Murray/MPJ because theyr'e in trouble.

rapstarter · Post #932 » by **rapstarter** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:40 am

eyeatoma wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Joker is mortal. Incredible player, but people crowning him the GOAT for 3 MVPs, and his stellar advanced stats need to eat some humble pie.

Of course you would say this, despite how he actually played and the way this game actually unfolded. Remarkable.

Let's put it this way, if it were Embiid, would you be defending him if he had the exact same stats?

If Joker had a history of not making the CF like Embiid did, he'd be getting called the most overrated player of all time with his 3 MVPs.

Pharmcat · Post #933 » by **Pharmcat** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:41 am

eyeatoma wrote:Joker is mortal. Incredible player, but people crowning him the GOAT for 3 MVPs, and his stellar advanced stats need to eat some humble pie.

The Wolves likely would have won last year as well if McDaniels wasn't hurt.

Their ring from last year needs a big asterisk next to it

1993Playoffs · Post #934 » by **1993Playoffs** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:41 am

,He may not be the clear cut anymore going forward if he’s not getting hardware

,he’s a weak defender and other guys may pass him up

web123888 · Post #935 » by **web123888** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:41 am

GOAT peak talk was utter nonsense. :lol:

Jordan, LeBron and Shaq easily had higher peaks.

It’s a sport where athleticism matters significantly. His lack thereof was part of Denver’s undoing.

eyeatoma · Post #936 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:41 am

rapstarter wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
Of course you would say this, despite how he actually played and the way this game actually unfolded. Remarkable.

Let's put it this way, if it were Embiid, would you be defending him if he had the exact same stats?

If Joker had a history of not making the CF like Embiid did, he'd be getting called the most overrated player of all time with his 3 MVPs.

Well, he's on his way now.

ForeverTFC · Post #937 » by **ForeverTFC** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:42 am

eyeatoma wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Joker is mortal. Incredible player, but people crowning him the GOAT for 3 MVPs, and his stellar advanced stats need to eat some humble pie.

The Wolves likely would have won last year as well if McDaniels wasn't hurt.

Bro I feel like this is a bigger moment for you than if Bid won a title lol

Not really, just will be glad to see all these threads about him being the GOAT finally die. You can't lost a game 7 up 20, and have that on your resume.

I'm just excited that the Sixers have some assetts this summer to put an actual team around Embiid. Nuggets will need to decide what to do with Murray/MPJ because theyr'e in trouble.

AussieCeltic · Post #938 » by **AussieCeltic** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:42 am

eyeatoma wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Joker is mortal. Incredible player, but people crowning him the GOAT for 3 MVPs, and his stellar advanced stats need to eat some humble pie.

Of course you would say this, despite how he actually played and the way this game actually unfolded. Remarkable.

Let's put it this way, if it were Embiid, would you be defending him if he had the exact same stats?

In your hypothetical world, does Embiid have a history of huge playoff performances and a title? Or is he still the massive playoff flopper who hasn’t made the second round?

Mephariel · Post #939 » by **Mephariel** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:42 am

Here is the thing. Jokic could very well be the best player in the world. But he is not the best of all time. Not even close. To me, he went from deserving praise to hyperbole over the last year or so.

rapstarter · Post #940 » by **rapstarter** » Mon May 20, 2024 2:43 am

eyeatoma wrote:
rapstarter wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Let's put it this way, if it were Embiid, would you be defending him if he had the exact same stats?

If Joker had a history of not making the CF like Embiid did, he'd be getting called the most overrated player of all time with his 3 MVPs.

Well, he's on his way now.

On his way back to the past and un-do his history of winning the championship and FMVP?

Has Jokic been overrated?