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Post#21 » by bringinhinkie » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:26 pm

mjhp911 wrote:As per Wiretap...

Twins May Try To Get Reyes From Mets?
29th November, 2007 - 3:04 pm
New York Daily News - Speculation in MLB circles swirled Wednesday that the Mets, who desperately need to obtain a frontline starter this winter, were considering parting with Jose Reyes to obtain Johan Santana in the wake of a separate pending Twins deal yesterday that would send Minnesota's shortstop, Jason Bartlett, to Tampa Bay along with pitcher Matt Garza and reliever Juan Rincon for outfielder Delmon Young, infielder Brendan Harris and outfield prospect Jason Pridie.

Still, Mets insiders were adamant early in the day that neither Reyes, David Wright nor Carlos Beltran (who has a full no-trade clause) would be traded this winter.


Do it already!


ZERO % chance this happens and it would be completely 100% asinine. Are you insane wanting to do this trade? Reyes is only 24 and has already had 2 HUGE years.(santana will be 29 by next seasons start AND is a FA) He slumps, we suck. Reyes is the Mets. 1 Slump and were gonna trade the key to our offense? You must be kidding. This would seriously be one of the stupidest trades in MLB history.

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Post#22 » by O Poutsokleftis » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:44 pm

However, pulling that trade is good for the Mets as Reyes is going to steadily decline.
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Post#23 » by Manhattan Project » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:13 am

O Poutsokleftis wrote:However, pulling that trade is good for the Mets as Reyes is going to steadily decline.


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Post#24 » by bringinhinkie » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:39 am

O Poutsokleftis wrote:However, pulling that trade is good for the Mets as Reyes is going to steadily decline.


no way your a met fan, im sorry, no way
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Post#25 » by mjhp911 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:53 am

O Poutsokleftis wrote:However, pulling that trade is good for the Mets as Reyes is going to steadily decline.


Not quite a decline, but I think what we saw in the second half of last season might be a glimpse of what's to come. He's starting to give off these 'diva' vibes, and I'm not liking what I'm seeing. Like Milledge earlier on, it might be better for us to cash Reyes in while his stock is still relatively high.



KnicksMetsJetsNova wrote:ZERO % chance this happens and it would be completely 100% asinine. Are you insane wanting to do this trade? Reyes is only 24 and has already had 2 HUGE years.(santana will be 29 by next seasons start AND is a FA) He slumps, we suck. Reyes is the Mets. 1 Slump and were gonna trade the key to our offense? You must be kidding. This would seriously be one of the stupidest trades in MLB history.


No, I'm not insane. No, Im not kidding. No, it wouldn't seriously be one of the stupidest trades in MLB history. But thanks for sharing your opinion.
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Post#26 » by TMU » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:06 am

Boston's offering Coco Crisp, pitcher Jon Lester and minor-league shortstop Jed Lowrie. Is this a joke?
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Post#27 » by mets87 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:15 pm

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Do tell...

this dude keeps claiming that reyes does coke, though i've heard nothing about it from a RELIABLE source.

if we trade reyes, then omar is a far worse GM than duquette or phillips ever were. it would be one of the stupidest trades in MLB history, trading a 24 year old SHORTSTOP (everyday player) with amazing potential for a pitcher that only appears in ~35 games a year. there are better ways to improve the pitching staff than to give up one of the best players on your team. thank GOD fans never become GM's.
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Post#28 » by LA_33 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:26 pm

Self-proclaimed "inside Twins source", who I cannot vouch for in the slightest, claims that the package the Twins want from the Mets is Gotay, F. Martinez (or C.Gomez, who's the OF name I've seen more often?) Maine, and Pelfrey.

That's in line with, and probably better than, the rumored Red Sox package of Lester, Lowrie, Coco, and good AA pitching prospect, and would force the Yanks to increase their offer from the rumored Hughes, Melky, Austin Jackson threesome.
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Post#29 » by gooGD » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:23 pm

LA_33 wrote:Self-proclaimed "inside Twins source", who I cannot vouch for in the slightest, claims that the package the Twins want from the Mets is Gotay, F. Martinez (or C.Gomez, who's the OF name I've seen more often?) Maine, and Pelfrey.

That's in line with, and probably better than, the rumored Red Sox package of Lester, Lowrie, Coco, and good AA pitching prospect, and would force the Yanks to increase their offer from the rumored Hughes, Melky, Austin Jackson threesome.


I think that package is too much to give up, especially with Maine. I value Maine much higher than I do Perez. I would consider that package if we could sub Perez for Maine I would definitely think about it hard. The deal breaker for me would be giving up Pelfrey... I'm very apprehensive about that idea if I'm putting in a top 20 prospect in the minor leagues and a MLB proven pitcher.

That package blows away Lester, who I have seen pitch 2-3 times.. there is no doubt about it, unless that prospect is Buchholz.

The Yankee package, with Hughes is obviously a no brainer. If the Yanks offer Hughes, consider Santana theirs.
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Post#30 » by Luv those Knicks » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:53 pm

LA_33 wrote:Self-proclaimed "inside Twins source", who I cannot vouch for in the slightest, claims that the package the Twins want from the Mets is Gotay, F. Martinez (or C.Gomez, who's the OF name I've seen more often?) Maine, and Pelfrey.

That's in line with, and probably better than, the rumored Red Sox package of Lester, Lowrie, Coco, and good AA pitching prospect, and would force the Yanks to increase their offer from the rumored Hughes, Melky, Austin Jackson threesome.



I'd try to swap Humber for Pelfrey, and then I'd do that deal. Giving up Maine means that Pelf slips into our starting rotation. Giving up 2 starting pitchers and 2 prospects is too much. One starter, 2 prospects, 1 AAA pitcher - I could live with that. We can afford to give up one OF prospect, and Gotay is nice, but he's replacable.
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Post#31 » by mjhp911 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:12 pm

LA_33 wrote:Self-proclaimed "inside Twins source", who I cannot vouch for in the slightest, claims that the package the Twins want from the Mets is Gotay, F. Martinez (or C.Gomez, who's the OF name I've seen more often?) Maine, and Pelfrey.

That's in line with, and probably better than, the rumored Red Sox package of Lester, Lowrie, Coco, and good AA pitching prospect, and would force the Yanks to increase their offer from the rumored Hughes, Melky, Austin Jackson threesome.


Makes sense. I just wanna' keep driving up the price for the Yanks. I don't think we'll end up with the best starting pitcher in the game, when all is said and done. But I want to it be costly for the eventual winner of his services.

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