Jalen Williams for Evan Mobley

[Texas Chuck]

OKC will not trade a fitting piece who's a great freind with SGA, they can shower the Cavs with picks to use on any other player they want...

Presti would have to overpay substantially- like 50% more. Cavs aren’t in position for a picks package.

As people have tried to tell you, but you refuse to hear, OKC is under zero obligation to solve Cleveland's issues for them. Mobley isn't the only option for them and swapping Williams for him isn't even that great of one to begin with.

Its fine for Cleveland to say for us to consider that we want you to pay a 50% premium over fair value. And OKC will say good luck with all that and move on.

Sometimes an idea just isn't quite right. And that's okay.

[7r5ur]

OKC will not trade a fitting piece who's a great freind with SGA, they can shower the Cavs with picks to use on any other player they want...

Presti would have to overpay substantially- like 50% more. Cavs aren’t in position for a picks package.

Then find a 3rd team to send a win-now player to the Cavs that wants OKC's picks. Doesn't make sense for OKC to send out JDub when they've got this mountain of draft assets.

[Wolveswin]

OKC will not trade a fitting piece who's a great freind with SGA, they can shower the Cavs with picks to use on any other player they want...

Presti would have to overpay substantially- like 50% more. Cavs aren’t in position for a picks package.

As people have tried to tell you, but you refuse to hear, OKC is under zero obligation to solve Cleveland's issues for them. Mobley isn't the only option for them and swapping Williams for him isn't even that great of one to begin with.

Its fine for Cleveland to say for us to consider that we want you to pay a 50% premium over fair value. And OKC will say good luck with all that and move on.

Sometimes an idea just isn't quite right. And that's okay.

When did I say this was right (re: Mobley for Jalen). I think you missed OP. I said nothing of the sorts. Didn’t even suggest either team would be apt to do it. I mean, opening line was ‘thought experiment.’

You are the soap box warrior ‘trades must be realistic’. Hence my very post reasoning that you just responded to.

Calling Cavs with a picks based package for Mobley (or Garland or Mitchell) is at first blush - hard no. Any team trying to buy a player from Cavs using draft capital would have to extremely overpay - read post you just replied to where I say exactly that and why.

[Wolveswin]

OKC will not trade a fitting piece who's a great freind with SGA, they can shower the Cavs with picks to use on any other player they want...

Presti would have to overpay substantially- like 50% more. Cavs aren’t in position for a picks package.

Then find a 3rd team to send a win-now player to the Cavs that wants OKC's picks. Doesn't make sense for OKC to send out JDub when they've got this mountain of draft assets.

That is where Presti’s problem lies. [Using word problem when reviewing Presti’s trade options with those mountain of picks].

What star player (one deserving of a mountain of picks) is available for picks package? Wizards and maybe Blazers are only openly tanking teams. Nope. No stars.

Markkanen is mentioned a lot. And Ainge is plum stocked with picks. Ainge would need a shiny object, quality over quantity- which Presti doesn’t have (plenty of threads on this very subject).

[tidho]

I don't see why OKC does this. They have enough assets to get a Mobley level player (not saying the Cavs would do it) without handing over an elite talent.

They can add to their existing roster without losing anything. I'd rely the natural development of Williams, Chet etc. and use Giddey plus draft picks to round out their rotation in areas of need.

This seems much more sensible for OKC.

This deal doesn't make a lot of sense for CLE even if you few them as equal talents. I like JW, but don't believe he's an equal talent to Mobley. It would also have to be accompanied by a host of other move given CLE has a few too many 6'5" SF types already.

[jordanwilliams6]

Giddey currently projects as a backup PG and has one more season on a rookie contract. I have no idea why people are still pretending he's a good trade piece. He's not. A team like the Raptors might give up a non-lottery pick, in this draft for him, and I have that as the very top of his market.

Giddey is a horrible fit on OKC but there are teams that would give up a rotation piece for him.

As an example, you could trade Giddey (considering the draft assets OKC have available to add) for a Jakob Poeltl type player. That gives OKC a player that could start next to Chet or come off the bench for 25 mins a game with the valuable size that they need.

Assuming Poeltl could be traded for Giddey straight up, Poeltl isn't the center piece of a trade for a Mobley-level player, so why would Giddey be?

I just see these offers where teams are putting guys who they're ready to move off of anyway, for really good players, and that's not going to work.

Giddey is just a piece to the trade. OKC have loads of picks that the Raptors (or any other team) would be interested in.

No one is suggesting straight player for player swaps.

[RunOKC]

absolutely not

Mobley doesn't solve any of our problems and JDub is 2 way future all star forward that can defend 1-4

[DowJones]

OKC might have loads of picks, but do they have any really attractive ones? Picks that project in the 12-25 range just aren't going to go that far when trying to get a real premium asset. Someone like Siakim is the target for those draft picks, not a 22 year old like Evan Mobley. The Thunder really should have targeted someone like OG or Siamkim last year.