2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

[PhilBlackson]

The last Hoop intellect mock had us going with Smith with Walter dropping to the mid 20s. I would be surprised if we didn't have him in our top 15. We have a lot of pure SG but he would be the clear BPA.

I like Ja'Kobe...I just like Bub more.

[ItsDanger]

If you've learned anything from these playoffs, rebounding matters and get guys that care about winning that will sacrifice to do so. Just saying you do means nothing, show it.

[PhilBlackson]

Thank goodness we conveyed instead of picking 6th or so. This kid would go #1 this year and might not go top 10 next year

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If we didn't fluke into one of Maluach, Flagg or Bailey....it's one of Knox or Powell for me (for now lol)

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I want Scottie to have a bigger wing bucket getter next to him, like Tatum has Brown and Paolo has Franz. I love RJ but he's not actually big enough to play SF and switch defensively with forwards and I think we'd all like to eventually see Gradey become a starter so the guard positions should be taken by IQ & Gradey (unless we draft someone like Bub or Ja'Kobe). But I'm not sure Nolan is actually the right fit even I do think he's a really good talent, just from those brief HLs he looks kinda like Cade lite to me lol. But personally I'd prefer a larger scoring oriented wing (I believe Nolan is only 6'3-4'ish). Unless of course Malauch looks like another "Embiid"ish type of prospect.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Tyler Smith is intriguing, reminds me a bit of Trey Murphy

[DreamTeam09]

Tyler Smith is intriguing, reminds me a bit of Trey Murphy

Murphy has more SF in him, Smith has more of a stretch PF to me

[Thaddy]

Tyler Smith is intriguing, reminds me a bit of Trey Murphy

Murphy has more SF in him, Smith has more of a stretch PF to me

If Smith can guard forwards on the perimeter it would help his stock a lot. Him being a pure PF that doesn't handle contact well makes him rank lower than most for me.

[God Squad]

Tyler Smith isn't a bad option. The shooting and rim protection as a floor is good. He had great lateral movement numbers in the combine. I would try to turn him into a wing rather than a big otherwise he is a poor fit with Barnes.

The dream options would be Filipowski, Salaun, Collier, McCain or Carrington. I doubt any will be available.

Why would he be a poor fit next to Barnes he's a shooter & rim protector?

Atleast 2 of those guys will be there

The rim protection he provides isn't elite. It's kind of just an add on so he isn't defined as a pure shooter. It doesn't look like he uses his size that well either. The lack of versatility makes him a pure PF and that's Barnes best position.

But then you add Filipowski to your list of "dream" options.

Make it make sense.

[God Squad]

I actually hate that the draft is so flat throughout that I can't pinpoint who I'd like at 19. I have no clue who should be available at said spots, especially in the 16-30 range. I have so many issues with this draft lol.

Players I like at 19
Cater
Da Silva
McCain

Okay-with
Ware
Missi
Holmes


Pass
Filipowski
Klintman

At 31 it's the opposite and I could think of like 5 or more guys that should be productive, or a swing on potential.

[manjusaka]

Top 5
Sarr, Risacher, Buzelis, Clingan, Castle

Next group
Topic, Reed, Dillingham, Holland, Cody, Salaun, Carter, Knecht. Ja’Kobe.

I this that is the lottery.


I wouldn’t mind Missi, Ware, da Silva, Smith, Carrington and McCain at 19. And I have already listed 20 players. Lol

[Bruin]

Castle is my favorite prospect in this class and it’s not really that particularly close either. I think he’s gonna be a stud

[OAKLEY_2]

The last Hoop intellect mock had us going with Smith with Walter dropping to the mid 20s. I would be surprised if we didn't have him in our top 15. We have a lot of pure SG but he would be the clear BPA.

I like Ja'Kobe...I just like Bub more.

Agreed. Do not think Smith suggest is a smart pick.

Bubba, Ja Kobe and Ware are all smart picks. All have starter potential.

[Thaddy]

Why would he be a poor fit next to Barnes he's a shooter & rim protector?

Atleast 2 of those guys will be there

The rim protection he provides isn't elite. It's kind of just an add on so he isn't defined as a pure shooter. It doesn't look like he uses his size that well either. The lack of versatility makes him a pure PF and that's Barnes best position.

But then you add Filipowski to your list of "dream" options.

Make it make sense.

Filipowski is a decent rim protector but he brings an all around offensive game and shows great feel. The passing, shooting, and positional versatility makes him better than Smith.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Filipowski's offseason was derailed by hip surgery. The surgery was roughly mid-april of last year and he only started lifting weights mid-june, I can't find when he started to resume on-court work but we can safely assume it was somewhere in the 2-3 month range after surgery which is an eternity for a 19 year old. It's easy to see a path where a lot more development occurs.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I just did a new lottery mock based on what I would do right now

1. Hawks - Topic
2. Wizards - Sheppard
3. Rockets - Clingan
4. Spurs - Sarr
5. Pistons - Filipowski
6. Hornets - Castle
7. Blazers - Edey
8. Spurs - Dillingham
9. Grizzlies - McCain
10. Jazz - Risacher
11. Bulls - Missi
12. Thunder - Holland
13. Kings - Carter
14. Blazers - Buzelis

[Thaddy]

Why would he be a poor fit next to Barnes he's a shooter & rim protector?

Atleast 2 of those guys will be there

The rim protection he provides isn't elite. It's kind of just an add on so he isn't defined as a pure shooter. It doesn't look like he uses his size that well either. The lack of versatility makes him a pure PF and that's Barnes best position.

But then you add Filipowski to your list of "dream" options.

Make it make sense.

Filipowski is able to play C and a better rim protector than Smith. His block rate is nearly double and his assists doubled since his freshmen year while the turnover rate is lower. He's a better prospect than Smith.

[JRoy]

I just did a new lottery mock based on what I would do right now

1. Hawks - Topic
2. Wizards - Sheppard
3. Rockets - Clingan
4. Spurs - Sarr
5. Pistons - Filipowski
6. Hornets - Castle
7. Blazers - Edey
8. Spurs - Dillingham
9. Grizzlies - McCain
10. Jazz - Risacher
11. Bulls - Missi
12. Thunder - Holland
13. Kings - Carter
14. Blazers - Buzelis

That works for this POR fan.

[DreamTeam09]

The rim protection he provides isn't elite. It's kind of just an add on so he isn't defined as a pure shooter. It doesn't look like he uses his size that well either. The lack of versatility makes him a pure PF and that's Barnes best position.

But then you add Filipowski to your list of "dream" options.

Make it make sense.

Filipowski is able to play C and a better rim protector than Smith. His block rate is nearly double and his assists doubled since his freshmen year while the turnover rate is lower. He's a better prospect than Smith.

I'm willing to bet Fillippwsky isn't rated that high as you two believe. Defensively he's not going to be good at either position imo. No way he cracks the lottery

[PhilBlackson]

I’ll tell you what’s a separator for me with Bub…

Not only is he very skilled as a freshman, he has that competitive nature. You see him GOING AT his opponents, the aggressiveness, not passive. Not only does that bode well that makes me believe he’s too competitive to not be a NBA player. But I think teams NEED that kinda energy…inspires others to compete and not be afraid to take on the challenge or be up to the big moments in games.

I know we’d love to get a bigger wing but a high caliber one isn’t likely to be there, we’d likely have to trade one of Brown or Yak to move up & get one..

BUT Bub brings some unique characteristics I think this team could use in shot creation, competitiveness/confidence. I think him & IQ could actually be a pretty tough backcourt for teams to deal with while Scottie facilitates and they open up the floor for him when teams can’t double. I like & fine with Ware (2nd on my list), I’m confident he’ll be a solid player, I’m just not sure will he reach good to great because you hear the opposite about his engine and desire to get it, a bit Ayton like. Then the other popular name is Carter but he had 2 sub 29% 3pt shooting seasons, that has to be a legit concern, look at how Davion Mitchell regressed to his mean after a single decent shooting season.

I would just like to ensure we get a baller. IMO he’s the most talented (not gifted like Ware) & has more handle than Walter that I also believe is most likely to work hard enough to reach his highest potential.

[S.W.A.N]

This draft is so intriguing.... Getting a top 10 pick this year is blah. The top is weak and it going to be a hard choice for most teams, the guys with high upside mostly have lowest floors.

But then you hit the end of the lottery and things start picking up. There is the nearly the same upside and floor as the guys in the top 10.

Then you get to the back end of the first round and it looks really solid and looks like a normal draft. Lots of guys that have role player potential and some high upside guys sprinkled in.

Second round looks very solid. There is a huge group of guys that could go in the 20-50 range. And there going to be at least a handful of very intriguing guys that go undrafted.

No real superstar potential guys in this draft, but so many guys that can be an Alfred (JJ Reddick reference for 3rd star-great role players)

Would love to see us get another pick, be it a mid-late first rounder for Bruce Brown, or a second rounder for taking on some bad money in a Boucher trade.

Get a bunch of solid young 2 way players/ or positional size guys to surround Scottie.

[Thaddy]

But then you add Filipowski to your list of "dream" options.

Make it make sense.

Filipowski is able to play C and a better rim protector than Smith. His block rate is nearly double and his assists doubled since his freshmen year while the turnover rate is lower. He's a better prospect than Smith.

I'm willing to bet Fillippwsky isn't rated that high as you two believe. Defensively he's not going to be good at either position imo. No way he cracks the lottery

Tha 7 footer that can shoot, protect the rim, and shows the vision he has is a no brainer at #19. I am fairly sure he won't be available at our slot. I don't see him as a C at the next level but there's no reason to believe he'll be any worse than Aldama.