EC FINALS, Gm 1 – Pacers @ Celtics – 8:00PM, Tues, May 21, 2024

[Gant]

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With all the wide open looks, Indiana leads everyone the playoffs in both FG% and three point percentage.

According to this tweet, Boston has gotten the least amount of wide open looks, but it hasn't mattered. The Celtics are third in the playoffs in FG% and 3p%.

[Celts17Pride]

I want the Celtics to win in a sweep 4-0 so I can read the 70 page General Board thread about how the Celtics have had the easiest path to the NBA Finals since the caveman days.

[Celts17Pride]

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I think the Celtics can easily use Nesmith's aggressiveness against him in this series. Celtics going to get a lot of free throws.

[Riverwalk2021]

Sweep these bums.

[lon3lytoaster]

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I think the Celtics can easily use Nesmith's aggressiveness against him in this series. Celtics going to get a lot of free throws.

Okie dokie, A A Ron.

[SuperDeluxe]

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I think the Celtics can easily use Nesmith's aggressiveness against him in this series. Celtics going to get a lot of free throws.

He'll leave the ECF with the same chip on his shoulder. Maybe next year, or the next.

[KamikazeK]

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With all the wide open looks, Indiana leads everyone the playoffs in both FG% and three point percentage.

According to this tweet, Boston has gotten the least amount of wide open looks, but it hasn't mattered. The Celtics are third in the playoffs in FG% and 3p%.

Could just be the difference between facing crappy defenses vs. decent defenses.

[chakdaddy]

Turner seems underrated. What makes KP better than him? Agility, in between game (mid range offense, switching), height? Is Turner more the big man equivalent of limited 3+D?

[redslastlaugh]

Indiana leads the playoffs so far in passes per game (310) and assists per game (30). By contrast the Celtics have thrown 264 passes per and averaged 23 assists per game.

I think this will be a good test for us, and I think we’re going to need to minimize the iso ball.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Turner seems underrated. What makes KP better than him? Agility, in between game (mid range offense, switching), height? Is Turner more the big man equivalent of limited 3+D?

Turner's really good.

I'll quote you Richard4444 (who's a really smart poster)'s post today from the Knicks board:

I find it funny that everybody says "We need a stretching 5" as it would be a simple task.

We have half dozen players in all the NBA that fit this profile: big player who can defend and shoot: Wemby, Embiid, KP, Turner, Brooke Lopez, and Chet. Maybe Mobley too.

Even Jokic, AD, JV, and Bam are not solid outside threats.

Towns, Naz Reid, and Bobby Portis are not reliable defensive options.

Aaron Gordon, Siakam are not big enough to play 5. They have OG"s size.

Bamba and Bol Bol are barely NBA players.

But that's elite 6 does divide in stratas and KP is just better at enough things than Turner or Brooke Lopez. Chet ... probably KP has an advantage .. simply because Chet was a rookie and now has 7 or 8 years more body development, so probably retains an advantage (and is taller which never goes away). Leaving - out of that grouping - Wemby and Embust.

For the rest, obviously the Joker got sent into the bad boys room for low % 3pt, despite clutch 3pt shooting. Which was a little weird. But AD is the only other one who should be in the conversation for some amalgameted group which included smarts or whatever. Bam's a very nice player, but not on the same level imo. (Fwiw, could be number 1 PF in the league is Miami acquired a quality C. KAT ... well maybe we are re-seeing him. But having Rudy as a partner makes him a PF too, no?

[Bad-Thoma]

Turner seems underrated. What makes KP better than him? Agility, in between game (mid range offense, switching), height? Is Turner more the big man equivalent of limited 3+D?

Neither is a great defender outside of shot blocking, neither is a consistent rebounder for their size (partly due to spacing role on offense) but Kristaps can get you 20-25 a game consistently. Myles had his 2nd best year scoring and has improved but his best year didn't reach Kristaps career average. Kristaps just has a deeper bag offensively. Myles has had some great shot blocking seasons though, I'm not big on him but I'll definitely give him that.

[Bad-Thoma]

Turner seems underrated. What makes KP better than him? Agility, in between game (mid range offense, switching), height? Is Turner more the big man equivalent of limited 3+D?

Turner's really good.

I'll quote you Richard4444 (who's a really smart poster)'s post today from the Knicks board:

I find it funny that everybody says "We need a stretching 5" as it would be a simple task.

We have half dozen players in all the NBA that fit this profile: big player who can defend and shoot: Wemby, Embiid, KP, Turner, Brooke Lopez, and Chet. Maybe Mobley too.

Even Jokic, AD, JV, and Bam are not solid outside threats.

Towns, Naz Reid, and Bobby Portis are not reliable defensive options.

Aaron Gordon, Siakam are not big enough to play 5. They have OG"s size.

Bamba and Bol Bol are barely NBA players.

But that's elite 6 does divide in stratas and KP is just better at enough things than Turner or Brooke Lopez. Chet ... probably KP has an advantage .. simply because Chet was a rookie and now has 7 or 8 years more body development, so probably retains an advantage (and is taller which never goes away). Leaving - out of that grouping - Wemby and Embust.

For the rest, obviously the Joker got sent into the bad boys room for low % 3pt, despite clutch 3pt shooting. Which was a little weird. But AD is the only other one who should be in the conversation for some amalgameted group which included smarts or whatever. Bam's a very nice player, but not on the same level imo. (Fwiw, could be number 1 PF in the league is Miami acquired a quality C. KAT ... well maybe we are re-seeing him. But having Rudy as a partner makes him a PF too, no?

That list is moot as it forgot the greatest stretch 5 in the game today, Al **** Horford.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Tillman also listed as QUESTIONABLE for personal reasons. Mathurin (OUT) only one listed for the Pacers.

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why the **** isn't kp practicing yet? feels like he might not be ready for games 3-4 at this point

[MaxwellSmart]

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I think the Celtics can easily use Nesmith's aggressiveness against him in this series. Celtics going to get a lot of free throws.

He'll leave the ECF with the same chip on his shoulder. Maybe next year, or the next.

How big is the chip on Oshae Brissett's Shoulder?...Did they say?

[CelticFaninLBC]

Celtics in 6, with a massive board meltdown after the second loss.

I'll be surprised if Porzingis plays in this series or the next. So am really glad that Minnesota bounced Jokic out of the playoffs.

[lon3lytoaster]

Celtics in 6, with a massive board meltdown after the second loss.

I'll be surprised if Porzingis plays in this series or the next. So am really glad that Minnesota bounced Jokic out of the playoffs.

No KP in this series would be a disaster. I think they could maybe sneak by Dallas without him; but not Minny most likely. They shouldn’t need him for Indiana, but getting him back in rotation will be critical if they’re going to move on and play for a title.

Just super unfortunate. Feel like they did a good job managing him all season and out of nowhere.. poof.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Turner seems underrated. What makes KP better than him? Agility, in between game (mid range offense, switching), height? Is Turner more the big man equivalent of limited 3+D?

Turner's really good.

I'll quote you Richard4444 (who's a really smart poster)'s post today from the Knicks board:

I find it funny that everybody says "We need a stretching 5" as it would be a simple task.

We have half dozen players in all the NBA that fit this profile: big player who can defend and shoot: Wemby, Embiid, KP, Turner, Brooke Lopez, and Chet. Maybe Mobley too.

Even Jokic, AD, JV, and Bam are not solid outside threats.

Towns, Naz Reid, and Bobby Portis are not reliable defensive options.

Aaron Gordon, Siakam are not big enough to play 5. They have OG"s size.

Bamba and Bol Bol are barely NBA players.

But that's elite 6 does divide in stratas and KP is just better at enough things than Turner or Brooke Lopez. Chet ... probably KP has an advantage .. simply because Chet was a rookie and now has 7 or 8 years more body development, so probably retains an advantage (and is taller which never goes away). Leaving - out of that grouping - Wemby and Embust.

For the rest, obviously the Joker got sent into the bad boys room for low % 3pt, despite clutch 3pt shooting. Which was a little weird. But AD is the only other one who should be in the conversation for some amalgameted group which included smarts or whatever. Bam's a very nice player, but not on the same level imo. (Fwiw, could be number 1 PF in the league is Miami acquired a quality C. KAT ... well maybe we are re-seeing him. But having Rudy as a partner makes him a PF too, no?

Al is a stretch 5 too

Bam has been trying to bring the 3 into his game late this season, so time will tell there.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

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I think the Celtics can easily use Nesmith's aggressiveness against him in this series. Celtics going to get a lot of free throws.

He'll leave the ECF with the same chip on his shoulder. Maybe next year, or the next.

How big is the chip on Oshae Brissett's Shoulder?...Did they say?

Funny you bring Brissett up, until game 7 Nesmith's 3 had deserted him (although he was only 2/2 in game 7). Without the 3 ball, Nesmith is just a slightly better Brissett IMO.