Finding THJ a home

[Godaddycurse]

Until now, I was of the opinion DJJ will be retained on 1+1 deal with a wink wink agreement, or full MLE if push comes to shove, the way DJJ played the Thunder, and looking at their cap situation, there's a real possibility Presti will pull a 4-D chess move and give him a Bruce Brown like contract, he played crucial role in ousting his team, he knows DAL has no means to replace him...
If Presti pulls this, then dumping THJ will become much less critical...

they need a big alot more than DJJ imo. But i'm not surprised if a team like detroit desperate for wing D overpays for him after htis playoffs

[Mavrelous]

Until now, I was of the opinion DJJ will be retained on 1+1 deal with a wink wink agreement, or full MLE if push comes to shove, the way DJJ played the Thunder, and looking at their cap situation, there's a real possibility Presti will pull a 4-D chess move and give him a Bruce Brown like contract, he played crucial role in ousting his team, he knows DAL has no means to replace him...
If Presti pulls this, then dumping THJ will become much less critical...

they need a big alot more than DJJ imo. But i'm not surprised if a team like detroit desperate for wing D overpays for him after htis playoffs

Presti is one of the smartest BB people in world, he didn't get a big, especially when he knew Gafford was there for a VERY cheap price, because he understands the strengths of his team.
OKC is the #1 seed and PO threat team with Chet at the 5, they need a bigger PF in Giddy spot, but it's not really clear for me it'll make them better, they need a play maker next to SGA.

[Itzmotto]

Until now, I was of the opinion DJJ will be retained on 1+1 deal with a wink wink agreement, or full MLE if push comes to shove, the way DJJ played the Thunder, and looking at their cap situation, there's a real possibility Presti will pull a 4-D chess move and give him a Bruce Brown like contract, he played crucial role in ousting his team, he knows DAL has no means to replace him...
If Presti pulls this, then dumping THJ will become much less critical...

they need a big alot more than DJJ imo. But i'm not surprised if a team like detroit desperate for wing D overpays for him after htis playoffs

Presti is one of the smartest BB people in world, he didn't get a big, especially when he knew Gafford was there for a VERY cheap price, because he understands the strengths of his team.
OKC is the #1 seed and PO threat team with Chet at the 5, they need a bigger PF in Giddy spot, but it's not really clear for me it'll make them better, they need a play maker next to SGA.

move him
The playmaker was drafted in giddey But SGA is a iso player.... So they Need move him

[Apz]

Until now, I was of the opinion DJJ will be retained on 1+1 deal with a wink wink agreement, or full MLE if push comes to shove, the way DJJ played the Thunder, and looking at their cap situation, there's a real possibility Presti will pull a 4-D chess move and give him a Bruce Brown like contract, he played crucial role in ousting his team, he knows DAL has no means to replace him...
If Presti pulls this, then dumping THJ will become much less critical...

they need a big alot more than DJJ imo. But i'm not surprised if a team like detroit desperate for wing D overpays for him after htis playoffs

Presti is one of the smartest BB people in world, he didn't get a big, especially when he knew Gafford was there for a VERY cheap price, because he understands the strengths of his team.
OKC is the #1 seed and PO threat team with Chet at the 5, they need a bigger PF in Giddy spot, but it's not really clear for me it'll make them better, they need a play maker next to SGA.

OKC were mainly the 1 seed because they had zero injuries all season

[jayjaysee]

Not ready to let it die..

Dallas: THJ and the 2028 Miami 2nd
Dallas: Sasha

Dallas tries out a slightly overpaid stretch four while opening up the MLE.

Brooklyn: DFS
Brooklyn: THJ, Mitchell, 45th, 2025 Portland 2nd, 2025 Sacramento 2nd, 2027 Sacramento 2nd, 2028 Miami 2nd

Brooklyn gets a first worth of seconds for DFS. THJ will play some minutes, Mitchell might be worth a look at.

Sacramento: Sasha, Mitchell, 45th, 2025 Portland 2nd, 2025 Sacramento 2nd, 2027 Sacramento 2nd
Sacramento: DFS

Sacramento keeps 13th for a bigger trade or just runs the team back with DFS helping a lot.

[Astaluego]

Not ready to let it die..

Dallas: THJ and the 2028 Miami 2nd
Dallas: Sasha

Dallas tries out a slightly overpaid stretch four while opening up the MLE.

Brooklyn: DFS
Brooklyn: THJ, Mitchell, 45th, 2025 Portland 2nd, 2025 Sacramento 2nd, 2027 Sacramento 2nd, 2028 Miami 2nd

Brooklyn gets a first worth of seconds for DFS. THJ will play some minutes, Mitchell might be worth a look at.

Sacramento: Sasha, Mitchell, 45th, 2025 Portland 2nd, 2025 Sacramento 2nd, 2027 Sacramento 2nd
Sacramento: DFS

Sacramento keeps 13th for a bigger trade or just runs the team back with DFS helping a lot.

I would do it... also I haven't seen much of Vezenkov in the NBA but I loved him in Europe, now with the savings to re-sign DJJ, what would a consolidation trade be like for Caruso...? Green+Dallas25+Raptors SRP does it?

[jayjaysee]

Not ready to let it die..

Dallas: THJ and the 2028 Miami 2nd
Dallas: Sasha

Dallas tries out a slightly overpaid stretch four while opening up the MLE.

Brooklyn: DFS
Brooklyn: THJ, Mitchell, 45th, 2025 Portland 2nd, 2025 Sacramento 2nd, 2027 Sacramento 2nd, 2028 Miami 2nd

Brooklyn gets a first worth of seconds for DFS. THJ will play some minutes, Mitchell might be worth a look at.

Sacramento: Sasha, Mitchell, 45th, 2025 Portland 2nd, 2025 Sacramento 2nd, 2027 Sacramento 2nd
Sacramento: DFS

Sacramento keeps 13th for a bigger trade or just runs the team back with DFS helping a lot.

I would do it... also I haven't seen much of Vezenkov in the NBA but I loved him in Europe, now with the savings to re-sign DJJ, what would a consolidation trade be like for Caruso...? Green+Dallas25+Raptors SRP does it?

If that’s the cost for Caruso, I guess? It is a great fit obviously, especially if Caruso can actually shoot threes now.

Maybe you trust in Hardy more than I do. But for me - I’d be keeping the picks for third offensive piece versus trying to make a perfect defense around Luka..

Chicago shouldn’t want Green, but should do that trade and just find a way to turn Green into an overpaid PF.

[Maverick41]

What about something like the following during the draft:

DAL Receives: Grimes
DET Receives: THJ + Omax + TOR 25 SRP + BOS 24 SRP + + 28 SRP (choose which one)

DAL gets a guy they were rumored to be very interested in in the TDL. 3&D guy that fits Luka's timeline + cuts enough salary to gain the full MLE to resign DJJ.

DET adds salary but a solid vet presence in THJ who tends to play well there and played college in the area. More importantly they get some SRPs, including a potentially very good one in TORs. They punt on Grimes before he becomes extension eligible and instead save that money for their other young guys. They instead see what they can do to develop Omax who still has many years left on his rookie year deal and has decent potential.

[mhd]

Until now, I was of the opinion DJJ will be retained on 1+1 deal with a wink wink agreement, or full MLE if push comes to shove, the way DJJ played the Thunder, and looking at their cap situation, there's a real possibility Presti will pull a 4-D chess move and give him a Bruce Brown like contract, he played crucial role in ousting his team, he knows DAL has no means to replace him...
If Presti pulls this, then dumping THJ will become much less critical...

they need a big alot more than DJJ imo. But i'm not surprised if a team like detroit desperate for wing D overpays for him after htis playoffs

Presti is one of the smartest BB people in world, he didn't get a big, especially when he knew Gafford was there for a VERY cheap price, because he understands the strengths of his team.
OKC is the #1 seed and PO threat team with Chet at the 5, they need a bigger PF in Giddy spot, but it's not really clear for me it'll make them better, they need a play maker next to SGA.

Wouldn't Kuzma make sense for OKC then? He's a bigger body than Giddey that is signed to a descending contract (important for the extensions for Williams & Chet coming up). Kuzma can also play small-ball 5 and won't be played off the court in the playoffs. I don't think the Wizards would want Giddey anyways since they want to tank and would rather have future draft picks.

[JRoy]

What about something like the following during the draft:

DAL Receives: Grimes
DET Receives: THJ + Omax + TOR 25 SRP + BOS 24 SRP + + 28 SRP (choose which one)

DAL gets a guy they were rumored to be very interested in in the TDL. 3&D guy that fits Luka's timeline + cuts enough salary to gain the full MLE to resign DJJ.

DET adds salary but a solid vet presence in THJ who tends to play well there and played college in the area. More importantly they get some SRPs, including a potentially very good one in TORs. They punt on Grimes before he becomes extension eligible and instead save that money for their other young guys. They instead see what they can do to develop Omax who still has many years left on his rookie year deal and has decent potential.

DET would rather keep Grimes or acquire real assets than this.

[theBigLip]

What about something like the following during the draft:

DAL Receives: Grimes
DET Receives: THJ + Omax + TOR 25 SRP + BOS 24 SRP + + 28 SRP (choose which one)

DAL gets a guy they were rumored to be very interested in in the TDL. 3&D guy that fits Luka's timeline + cuts enough salary to gain the full MLE to resign DJJ.

DET adds salary but a solid vet presence in THJ who tends to play well there and played college in the area. More importantly they get some SRPs, including a potentially very good one in TORs. They punt on Grimes before he becomes extension eligible and instead save that money for their other young guys. They instead see what they can do to develop Omax who still has many years left on his rookie year deal and has decent potential.

DET would rather keep Grimes or acquire real assets than this.

Agreed. And to add on…

SRPs are not significant. You’re lucky to get a role player with them, let alone a starter. This is not enough enticement for a salary dump.

Detroit has $60M+ in cap space. That should get them 2-3 legit players. Why would they want to use one of those slots on THJ when instead it could be Monk, Bridges, Claxton, etc?

[Maverick41]

What about something like the following during the draft:

DAL Receives: Grimes
DET Receives: THJ + Omax + TOR 25 SRP + BOS 24 SRP + + 28 SRP (choose which one)

DAL gets a guy they were rumored to be very interested in in the TDL. 3&D guy that fits Luka's timeline + cuts enough salary to gain the full MLE to resign DJJ.

DET adds salary but a solid vet presence in THJ who tends to play well there and played college in the area. More importantly they get some SRPs, including a potentially very good one in TORs. They punt on Grimes before he becomes extension eligible and instead save that money for their other young guys. They instead see what they can do to develop Omax who still has many years left on his rookie year deal and has decent potential.

DET would rather keep Grimes or acquire real assets than this.

Agreed. And to add on…

SRPs are not significant. You’re lucky to get a role player with them, let alone a starter. This is not enough enticement for a salary dump.

Detroit has $60M+ in cap space. That should get them 2-3 legit players. Why would they want to use one of those slots on THJ when instead it could be Monk, Bridges, Claxton, etc?

Understood, appreciate the feedback fellas. His stats were quite horrendous after he was traded to DET so wasn't sure if his value had soured.

If DAL removed Omax and the SRPs and changed to Powell + a 25 FRP instead, would that move the needle?

[theBigLip]

DET would rather keep Grimes or acquire real assets than this.

Agreed. And to add on…

SRPs are not significant. You’re lucky to get a role player with them, let alone a starter. This is not enough enticement for a salary dump.

Detroit has $60M+ in cap space. That should get them 2-3 legit players. Why would they want to use one of those slots on THJ when instead it could be Monk, Bridges, Claxton, etc?

Understood, appreciate the feedback fellas. His stats were quite horrendous after he was traded to DET so wasn't sure if his value had soured.

If DAL removed Omax and the SRPs and changed to Powell + a 25 FRP instead, would that move the needle?

Absolutely a better deal for Detroit.

[JRoy]

DET would rather keep Grimes or acquire real assets than this.

Agreed. And to add on…

SRPs are not significant. You’re lucky to get a role player with them, let alone a starter. This is not enough enticement for a salary dump.

Detroit has $60M+ in cap space. That should get them 2-3 legit players. Why would they want to use one of those slots on THJ when instead it could be Monk, Bridges, Claxton, etc?

Understood, appreciate the feedback fellas. His stats were quite horrendous after he was traded to DET so wasn't sure if his value had soured.

If DAL removed Omax and the SRPs and changed to Powell + a 25 FRP instead, would that move the needle?

A 25 FRP might just do the trick for DET.

[Maverick41]

So basically the deal I'm proposing after feedback is:

DAL Receives: Grimes
DET Receives: THJ + Powell + 25 DAL FRP

DAL receives a young 3&D wing who's started for a solid amount of his career. He matches Luka's timeline in a similar manner to how PJ and Gafford do. DAL also cuts enough salary to use the full MLE on DJJ and potentially the BAE (I think?) as well. Maybe add slight protections to the pick.

DET absorbs THJ and Powell but gain a FRP.

I might be overvalueing Grimes but I personally think he can be high end role player on a playoff contender as long as he can stay healthy.

[daoneandonly]

Not ready to let it die..

Dallas: THJ and the 2028 Miami 2nd
Dallas: Sasha

Dallas tries out a slightly overpaid stretch four while opening up the MLE.

Brooklyn: DFS
Brooklyn: THJ, Mitchell, 45th, 2025 Portland 2nd, 2025 Sacramento 2nd, 2027 Sacramento 2nd, 2028 Miami 2nd

Brooklyn gets a first worth of seconds for DFS. THJ will play some minutes, Mitchell might be worth a look at.

Sacramento: Sasha, Mitchell, 45th, 2025 Portland 2nd, 2025 Sacramento 2nd, 2027 Sacramento 2nd
Sacramento: DFS

Sacramento keeps 13th for a bigger trade or just runs the team back with DFS helping a lot.

I'd do this, though I'd hate to give Sac Doe Doe. If thats the cost of business in keeping DJJ, you have to do it. See and hope if Luka can unlock something in Sash

[jayjaysee]

I like that other Mavs have joined me looking at Grimes. Im not sure I ever actually offered the first and just was trying Prosper and seconds.. But if that’s the cost, I think you still do it as long as that first is at least top 10 protected. Just in case…