Jokic's teammates failed him...AGAIN.

[Quentin]

Jokic was great in Game 7. His NBA Efficiency number was above 40. That's greatness and no one else played at that level in this contest, particularly on his team. Including Murray.

Minny won despite Ant going 6/24. That says a lot.

Denver needs more talented depth. They almost got away with skimming on that, but it caught up to them in the end.

Ya, but Ant was as dominant defensively as Jokic was offensively. And he was like that the entire series.

he shot 6/24 but locked down the perimeter. Many are glossing over that. Ant played great honestly. He was dominant while missing tons of shots. That says something.

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Not disagreeing because I don't know. Did Ant defend him on every shot he took when he went 13-27? There had to be some switching out.

[Jakay]

Jokic was pretty bad in the second half I have to say. And 90% of it was because he played 47 mins and was just totally gassed, you could tell.

They desperately need a backup for him.

Jovic.

That would be the best.

[hippesthippo]

Laker fans in here circle-jerking each other over Denver’s loss . Gotta love it.

Folks comment on the Lakers it's fair game, but as soon as laker fans say something about another team it's hating or a circle jerk. Comical, then they try and hide their tears with an lol. Pathetic.

Nah, every fan base will have its idiots, its nerds, its casual fans and its overly sensitive homer fans. Los Angeles has a gigantic fan base, so you simply notice them more because, well... there's more of them.

[damanick10]

It's funny how narratives get set. Ant was pretty awful in game 7 especially for his standards but the team picked up the slack and Naz Reid did his thing. Jokic played well but the team was putrid down the stretch, especially MPJ. You'd think after the game with all the hype Ant just took the team on his back and willed them to victory but that wasn't really the case.

[EmpireFalls]

It's funny how narratives get set. Ant was pretty awful in game 7 especially for his standards but the team picked up the slack and Naz Reid did his thing. Jokic played well but the team was putrid down the stretch, especially MPJ. You'd think after the game with all the hype Ant just took the team on his back and willed them to victory but that wasn't really the case.

I cannot stand the star controls everything discourse.

The Nuggets don’t lose, Jokic loses. The Suns don’t get swept, KD gets swept. Then when Ant has a close out game 7, much like Kobe’s in 2010, it wasn’t the Wolves or Lakers won it was Kobe and Ant won.

Infuriating.

[sikma42]

In the process of rewatching the 3rd quarter (nba app is acting weird, at around the 6:00 mark). But Jokic played worse than I remember, especially defensively.


- double on Ant as per gameplan. Allows cut across paint and KAT hits Gobert for dunk.
- Ant splits double with Jokic, straight line to basket - kick out for 3
- Bad defense on KAT on delayed fast break. Blows by and fouled at rim on dunk attempt by AG
- Lead from 20-14
- No resistance as Ant takes ball coast to coast. Doesn’t stop the ball, force a change or direction or contest at the rim. Invisible.
- Settles for 3 early in clock. Miss.
- Settles for 3 miss early in clock miss
- Jokic doesn’t step up to contain drive, extra help defender needed to contain Ant, easy pass for wide open corner 3


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[guynumber45]

In the process of rewatching the 3rd quarter (nba app is acting weird, at around the 6:00 mark). But Jokic played worse than I remember, especially defensively.


- double on Ant as per gameplan. Allows cut across paint and KAT hits Gobert for dunk.
- Ant splits double with Jokic, straight line to basket - kick out for 3
- Bad defense on KAT on delayed fast break. Blows by and fouled at rim on dunk attempt by AG
- Lead from 20-14
- No resistance as Ant takes ball coast to coast. Doesn’t stop the ball, force a change or direction or contest at the rim. Invisible.
- Settles for 3 early in clock. Miss.
- Settles for 3 miss early in clock miss
- Jokic doesn’t step up to contain drive, extra help defender needed to contain Ant, easy pass for wide open corner 3


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A large part of that was him being gassed. I don't understand why Malone didn't get his minute mark between 38-40. They had a 20-point cushion. Plenty of opportunity to sub Jokic out.

[web123888]

Murray certainly is overrated. Pretty weak #2 option compared to most title teams.

[sikma42]

In the process of rewatching the 3rd quarter (nba app is acting weird, at around the 6:00 mark). But Jokic played worse than I remember, especially defensively.


- double on Ant as per gameplan. Allows cut across paint and KAT hits Gobert for dunk.
- Ant splits double with Jokic, straight line to basket - kick out for 3
- Bad defense on KAT on delayed fast break. Blows by and fouled at rim on dunk attempt by AG
- Lead from 20-14
- No resistance as Ant takes ball coast to coast. Doesn’t stop the ball, force a change or direction or contest at the rim. Invisible.
- Settles for 3 early in clock. Miss.
- Settles for 3 miss early in clock miss
- Jokic doesn’t step up to contain drive, extra help defender needed to contain Ant, easy pass for wide open corner 3


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A large part of that was him being gassed. I don't understand why Malone didn't get his minute mark between 38-40. They had a 20-point cushion. Plenty of opportunity to sub Jokic out.

I think minutes def played a part. But we have people hear saying Jokic played good defense and looking back, it just seems ridiculous.

It wasn’t a good performance. Obviously he is a great player but his flaws really showed through this game. And it’s on a lot of stuff that advanced stats won’t pick up on quite yet.


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[srhcan]

Can this 3 time MVP get at least ONE former all-star to help him?

They seriously have to tweak that roster.

His help was unbelievably bad in a game 7 at home.

Really? I think he failed his teammates more this time

[Special_Puppy]

Jokic's prior EPM this series was +5.7 and +6.7 over the past 5 games. I don't know how you can credibly blame Jokic for the Nuggets second round exit

[art_tatum]

Jokic's prior EPM this series was +5.7 and +6.7 over the past 5 games. I don't know how you can credibly blame Jokic for the Nuggets second round exit

It's a 7 game series why are we just ignoring the first two losses

[art_tatum]

Murray played pretty well dropped 32
And the starting lineup was alright. They need to improve their bench but nuggets have a good team. Joker just didn't deliver against a team that might get slaughtered by the mavs.

Hell curry won with klay dropping like 5 points.
Lebron won with wade and bosh not contributing like Murray

Lebron and Curry won without their teammates delivering, they also failed without their teammates delivering.

You think Currys supporting cast in 2022 was any worse than Jokic last year? And what happened the next season...eliminated in play-in...

Curry definitely didn't have someone like 2023 Murray as 2nd option and they also faced a tougher route than the nuggets in 2022

Warriors supporting cast was horrible this season. Mostly due to Klay and Wiggins sucking again. And Draymond being crazy and also unavailable. I think they played better starting two rookies but you'll have to ask the warriors fans.

Joker is great it's not like I blame the loss on him. But all this talk about him being goat track and way better than any player since Jordan is crazy talk. He's up there top 5 since Jordans retirement. That's pretty damn good. Cause the others are in the top 10 all time.

[Calvin Klein]

It's funny how narratives get set. Ant was pretty awful in game 7 especially for his standards but the team picked up the slack and Naz Reid did his thing. Jokic played well but the team was putrid down the stretch, especially MPJ. You'd think after the game with all the hype Ant just took the team on his back and willed them to victory but that wasn't really the case.

I cannot stand the star controls everything discourse.

The Nuggets don’t lose, Jokic loses. The Suns don’t get swept, KD gets swept. Then when Ant has a close out game 7, much like Kobe’s in 2010, it wasn’t the Wolves or Lakers won it was Kobe and Ant won.

Infuriating.

One of the many reasons I hate he KD trade. From that moment, everything is about him and the team doesn’t matter.

[web123888]

Yea they did but he wasn’t amazing himself in Game 7 either. He’s not a flawless and perfect offensive player as some would have you believe.

His poor 3-point shooting (not on the level of a, say, Dirk type big) was very costly this series.

If he was a better shooter they could’ve won.

[Special_Puppy]

Jokic's prior EPM this series was +5.7 and +6.7 over the past 5 games. I don't know how you can credibly blame Jokic for the Nuggets second round exit

It's a 7 game series why are we just ignoring the first two losses

+5.7 for the entire series which is great

[Special_Puppy]

Small sample Size, but
EPM WAR for Jokic: 3
EPM WAR for the Rest of the Nuggets: 1.3

[Cubbies2120]

Can this 3 time MVP get at least ONE former all-star to help him?

They seriously have to tweak that roster.

His help was unbelievably bad in a game 7 at home.

Really? I think he failed his teammates more this time

34/19/7, including scoring 20 in the final 13 mins of the game...either scoring or assisting on all but 5 points in the final 16.5 minutes of gametime...

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say that the problem was NOT Jokic, or Murray in game 7.

It was the rest of the entire roster managing 21 points on 28 shots.

Outside of Jokic & Murray, here's the rest of the scoring in the game:
MPJ 7 points on 12 shots
KCP 5 points on 7 shots
Braun 5 points on 3 shots
Gordon 5 points on 5 shots

That's it, that's the list. Not gonna cut it against the best defensive team in the league...

[cpower]

Small sample Size, but
EPM WAR for Jokic: 3
EPM WAR for the Rest of the Nuggets: 1.3

so based on this metric, if you have 2 jokers on denver and play 2 vs 5 then they will dominate the opponents by 30 every game? LMAO
it's laughable how ridiculous these garbage stat is.

[srhcan]

Can this 3 time MVP get at least ONE former all-star to help him?

They seriously have to tweak that roster.

His help was unbelievably bad in a game 7 at home.

Really? I think he failed his teammates more this time

34/19/7, including scoring 20 in the final 13 mins of the game...either scoring or assisting on all but 5 points in the final 16.5 minutes of gametime...

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say that the problem was NOT Jokic, or Murray in game 7.

It was the rest of the entire roster managing 21 points on 28 shots.

Outside of Jokic & Murray, here's the rest of the scoring in the game:
MPJ 7 points on 12 shots
KCP 5 points on 7 shots
Braun 5 points on 3 shots
Gordon 5 points on 5 shots

That's it, that's the list. Not gonna cut it against the best defensive team in the league...

When the Wolves make a run and Nuggets need baskets badly to stop the bleeding, Jokic failed repeatedly. We all saw it. He is MVP so this loss is on him more than anyone else. It might be fatigue issue for him and Murray but MVP is supposed to deliver in crunch moments.