I honestly think we could make no moves this offseason and we would be fine.

[robillionaire]

If we run it back we run it back. If we make some kind of improvement we make an improvement. All good in Knicks land. Orange and blue skies

[kaansunman]

Top teams have big frontcourts so most important thing is to keep the size at 5 with Hart & Mitch. Mikal and Trey Murphy is great players but who will you give up from the current roster for them? Randle? I think it's not smart since he is the only original 4 at the squad.
Minor changes for depth, a veteran player (championship experience preffered) and bring back run again. There will be oppurtunities during the summer that you can always seize until deadline.

[8516knicks]

Katz just reported we're looking for another star player (which has been the plan for years)

Realistically who can we get?

Donovan Mitchell is possible I guess but not sure how well Brunson and MItchell would fit....

Obviously a star wing or big would be better but dont see it being possible.

Why don't you think it's possible? Names I have as realistic targets include:

1: Donovan Mitchell
2: Mikal Bridges
3: Paul George (s&t)
4: DeMarr DeRozan (s&t)
5: Brandon Ingram

Also, we were hit by injuries twice in a row in the PO, given our cap situation in the near future, this summer really is the last shot to make a splash while being able to keep the core. If we had 1 more star this PO, we would've beaten Indy, and possibly Boston with OG likely returning later in the series, regardless of all the injuries.

Draft a healthy young center, trade MItch, get de ROzan (if he can still get his own shot).

[Stannis]

Rose needs to get more guys and force Thibs into a 10-man rotation.

[MrDollarBills]

I agree with Kevin Garnett's assessment of this team. I don't do anything crazy in terms of acquisitions aside addressing needs and keeping the core group intact.

Unless it's Giannis or KAT, I do not trade Randle. And even then I am iffy on KAT.

I don't upend this roster and culture to go star chasing. Anyone traded here needs to be ready to work hard, buy in, adhere to the pecking order and be a positive on the court and in the locker room.

[Jalen Bluntson]

the knicks cant beat boston or a healthy 76ers with another max player

The Knicks can beat both of those teams fully healthy. Period.

[JCS]

Asking for a DeRozan trade to the Knicks is a litmus test for how much you understand hoops. I love the player, but he is literally the opposite of what this team could use.

[dakomish23]

I think Leon has to make as many calls as possible to see what's out there. Opportunity will come and the team is ready.

That being said...I hope the front office doesn't fall into the super team trap. This roster as constructed can go far if healthy, but depth needs to be addressed. I don't put the onus on Thibs playing guys heavy minutes but it's undeniable that the team needs at least 10 guys Thibs will trust playing.

-Add depth via MLE, draft, vet minnies. No more playing guys 48 minutes.

-Use assets to explore a trade but do not gut the team to do so. Mitch/Bojan is a large cap slot. I don't go any further than that unless it's Giannis or someone of that level.

-resign Hartenstein, OG. Do due dilligence on Precious and Burks.

Fit over fanfare.

[MrDollarBills]

I think Leon has to make as many calls as possible to see what's out there. Opportunity will come and the team is ready.

That being said...I hope the front office doesn't fall into the super team trap. This roster as constructed can go far if healthy, but depth needs to be addressed. I don't put the onus on Thibs playing guys heavy minutes but it's undeniable that the team needs at least 10 guys Thibs will trust playing.

-Add depth via MLE, draft, vet minnies. No more playing guys 48 minutes.

-Use assets to explore a trade but do not gut the team to do so. Mitch/Bojan is a large cap slot. I don't go any further than that unless it's Giannis or someone of that level.

-resign Hartenstein, OG. Do due dilligence on Precious and Burks.

Fit over fanfare.

Two All NBA players surrounded by defenders and spacers seems like a great idea based on how the NBA Finals is shaping up.

Leon doesn't need to reinvent the wheel here. Just make sure that the team is 10 deep.

[dakomish23]

I think Leon has to make as many calls as possible to see what's out there. Opportunity will come and the team is ready.

That being said...I hope the front office doesn't fall into the super team trap. This roster as constructed can go far if healthy, but depth needs to be addressed. I don't put the onus on Thibs playing guys heavy minutes but it's undeniable that the team needs at least 10 guys Thibs will trust playing.

-Add depth via MLE, draft, vet minnies. No more playing guys 48 minutes.

-Use assets to explore a trade but do not gut the team to do so. Mitch/Bojan is a large cap slot. I don't go any further than that unless it's Giannis or someone of that level.

-resign Hartenstein, OG. Do due dilligence on Precious and Burks.

Fit over fanfare.

Two All NBA players surrounded by defenders and spacers seems like a great idea based on how the NBA Finals is shaping up.

Leon doesn't need to reinvent the wheel here. Just make sure that the team is 10 deep.

I got two maybe three changes at most - true PG for backup (priority) and a legitimate backup PF. Third thing would be replacing Sims but I would just make Precious the 3rd string C

[Galou]

I'm more focused on the draft and hoping Knicks don't trade their picks.

Knicks need experience college players that will be ready and I think Zach Edey, Kel’el Ware, DaRon Holmes and Tyler Kolek are perfect. No?

Do Knicks have enough cap space for those rookie contracts at pick 24 & 25.

I'm not too focused on the contracts and have good faith in Leon Rose given his track record lately. He seems to allow room with players taking less so Knicks can have a deeper bench.

I'm just hoping those picks don't get traded.

[Woodsanity]

Asking for a DeRozan trade to the Knicks is a litmus test for how much you understand hoops. I love the player, but he is literally the opposite of what this team could use.

Defrozen seems like a nice guy but he isn't built for the playoffs. Never has been.

the knicks cant beat boston or a healthy 76ers with another max player

We can beat the Celtics if healthy, we would be less favored though ofc.

Lets not even talk about the Sixers they arent even in the convo. They are a fraud team built around a fraud superstar.

[sol537]

1) Opt-in and extend OG; final year player option
2) Extend iHart at his max; final year player option
3) Extend Brunson with team-friendly deal
4) Extend Randle with team-friendly deal
5) Offer Precious & Burks vet min type deals... unlikely that either takes it
6) Draft three 2-way players via #24, #25, #38
7) Extend Thibs for 4 more years beyond next season; timeline matches "core" players' timeline
8) Keep Bogs and future picks until Feb '25 trade deadline for an upgrade
9) Leave Rokas overseas one more year
10) Offer Melton 3-year MLE deal

iHart / Robinson / Draftee
Randle / Hart
OG / Bogs / Draftee
DDV / McBride
Brunson / Melton / Draftee

Run. It. Back.

[Knick4Real]

I wonder if the Suns would go for a Booker for Randle trade?

Theoretically, it kinda makes sense for both teams, Randle fits better next to Beal/KD than Booker and Booker next to Brunson than Randle

Either that or Butler, I know he's old and not a great shooter, but the guy absolutely delivers in the postseason and him and OG would be perfect to defend Brown/Tatum since you gotta go through Boston these days.

There is a zero % chance of that happening lets be real.

Hmmm, I wouldn't call it a zero chance.

Teams like Phoenix, Minnesota, and a few others have difficult decisions to make. Their payrolls are HUGE and they can't afford to pay everybody AND avoid the upcoming 2nd apron.

According to Windy:

Because now that this season is over, Ant Edwards, rightfully so, after making the All-NBA team, just hit the supermax as a four-year player. Congrats to him. He got a $40 million extra bonus on his contract for making All-NBA. That contract starts July 1st.

Karl Towns, made All-NBA two years ago, signed a humongous $250 million contract extension. His key was within his contract, but his new contract begins on July 1st. He's getting a $13 million raise over what was already a $35 million salary.

They have a bunch of other high dollar players on the roster, including Rudy Gobert, who, by the way, is eligible for an extension this summer. They're going to have to deal with. They just signed Jaden McDaniels to $130 million contract that starts July 1st, guys, and he earned it.

We are not in New York City. This team is not owned by someone worth $100 billion, like the LA Clippers. And not only that, the ownership situation is in flux. Mark Lurie and Alex Rodriguez are in a legal battle with Glenn Taylor about who's gonna own the team going forward.

Even if it is Glenn Taylor, he has only paid a little bit of luxury tax in the entire time he's owned the team. He'd have to pay more luxury tax this next season than all of his years owning the Wolves combined, probably double. So when you think about the Wolves, you can't think about whether this team needs to change. You have to think about whether they can afford to keep this team together.

https://fadeawayworld.net/brian-windhorst-doubts-wolves-owners-together-massive-luxury-tax

According to ESPN:

The high-risk/high-reward acquisitions of Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal to build a star trio with Devin Booker has left the franchise out four future first-round picks and six future second-round picks. Phoenix has also sent out four first-round pick swaps, effectively zeroing out its draft assets.

With next season's payroll already exceeding $200 million, the Suns will be in the NBA's second apron of the luxury tax, subjecting them to heavy restrictions on trades and free agency. Also, they can't freely re-trade Beal, even if they wanted to reformat their top three stars, as he retained the no-trade clause he had with the Washington Wizards.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40045196/2024-nba-playoffs-how-phoenix-suns-salvage-their-future-mystery

I don't see how the Wolves can afford to keep their core together. The same with Phoenix trying to retain Booker, KD, and Beal (no trade clause).

They may not want to break up their teams, but they may end up having no choice. The owners can't afford it.

[Isiahthomass]

Before this season I would have been on the trade bandwagon. After having all those injuries and almost making the ECF I am absolutely for the idea of running it back with the same crew, maybe try and solidify the bench a bit more. Strange idea but I think the team actually deserves the opportunity to stay together and run it back.

[Woodsanity]

I wonder if the Suns would go for a Booker for Randle trade?

Theoretically, it kinda makes sense for both teams, Randle fits better next to Beal/KD than Booker and Booker next to Brunson than Randle

Either that or Butler, I know he's old and not a great shooter, but the guy absolutely delivers in the postseason and him and OG would be perfect to defend Brown/Tatum since you gotta go through Boston these days.

There is a zero % chance of that happening lets be real.

Hmmm, I wouldn't call it a zero chance.

Teams like Phoenix, Minnesota, and a few others have difficult decisions to make. Their payrolls are HUGE and they can't afford to pay everybody AND avoid the upcoming 2nd apron.

According to Windy:

Because now that this season is over, Ant Edwards, rightfully so, after making the All-NBA team, just hit the supermax as a four-year player. Congrats to him. He got a $40 million extra bonus on his contract for making All-NBA. That contract starts July 1st.

Karl Towns, made All-NBA two years ago, signed a humongous $250 million contract extension. His key was within his contract, but his new contract begins on July 1st. He's getting a $13 million raise over what was already a $35 million salary.

They have a bunch of other high dollar players on the roster, including Rudy Gobert, who, by the way, is eligible for an extension this summer. They're going to have to deal with. They just signed Jaden McDaniels to $130 million contract that starts July 1st, guys, and he earned it.

We are not in New York City. This team is not owned by someone worth $100 billion, like the LA Clippers. And not only that, the ownership situation is in flux. Mark Lurie and Alex Rodriguez are in a legal battle with Glenn Taylor about who's gonna own the team going forward.

Even if it is Glenn Taylor, he has only paid a little bit of luxury tax in the entire time he's owned the team. He'd have to pay more luxury tax this next season than all of his years owning the Wolves combined, probably double. So when you think about the Wolves, you can't think about whether this team needs to change. You have to think about whether they can afford to keep this team together.

https://fadeawayworld.net/brian-windhorst-doubts-wolves-owners-together-massive-luxury-tax

According to ESPN:

The high-risk/high-reward acquisitions of Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal to build a star trio with Devin Booker has left the franchise out four future first-round picks and six future second-round picks. Phoenix has also sent out four first-round pick swaps, effectively zeroing out its draft assets.

With next season's payroll already exceeding $200 million, the Suns will be in the NBA's second apron of the luxury tax, subjecting them to heavy restrictions on trades and free agency. Also, they can't freely re-trade Beal, even if they wanted to reformat their top three stars, as he retained the no-trade clause he had with the Washington Wizards.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40045196/2024-nba-playoffs-how-phoenix-suns-salvage-their-future-mystery

I don't see how the Wolves can afford to keep their core together. The same with Phoenix trying to retain Booker, KD, and Beal (no trade clause).

They may not want to break up their teams, but they may end up having no choice. The owners can't afford it.

That Beal trade really was an awful trade.

[Nazrmohamed]

You'll almost never hear me talk about trading anyone unless there's somebody to trade for. In that case Brunson/OG and to some extent Randle are untouchable save for a superstar player in return. Even Mitch who is probably my most tradeable asset in terms of who'd I be willing to trade, you sortve gotta suggest somebody. I'm not pissed at anyone or in the mood to perform some spiteful trade just to rid myself of someone.

[douggood]

1) Opt-in and extend OG; final year player option
2) Extend iHart at his max; final year player option
3) Extend Brunson with team-friendly deal
4) Extend Randle with team-friendly deal
5) Offer Precious & Burks vet min type deals... unlikely that either takes it
6) Draft three 2-way players via #24, #25, #38
7) Extend Thibs for 4 more years beyond next season; timeline matches "core" players' timeline
8) Keep Bogs and future picks until Feb '25 trade deadline for an upgrade
9) Leave Rokas overseas one more year
10) Offer Melton 3-year MLE deal

iHart / Robinson / Draftee
Randle / Hart
OG / Bogs / Draftee
DDV / McBride
Brunson / Melton / Draftee

Run. It. Back.

1 - unlikely, he is limited by 140% extension rule, so it would 20 mil opt in with the extension, max he can sign is around 4 year 120 mil. so 20 + 120 = 5 year 140 mil deal basically. he can do better than that on a 4 year deal.
2 - sure if he accepts it
3 - unlikely, you offer it, but there is a delta of 100+ million if he waits till next offseason.
4 - sure, but what is team friend meet player friendly intersection point.
5 - unliekly, just to keep precious RFA, his qualifing offer is 6+ mil
6 - sure, but those 3 rookies will cost about 7 mil cap space.
7 - done deal
8 - unlikely, since keeping both OG, ihart, 3 picks etc and then picking up bogs option puts them into the 2nd apron, only way i see them picking it up is they know ihart or og is leaving.
9 - sure, but he has some say in it.
10 - goes back to point 8. if you keep borgs + og + ihart you are into the 2nd apron, no mle to offer, if they keep OG + ihart but let bogs walk, then they should have enough space to offer full mle deal, but it will be close.

[sol537]

1) Opt-in and extend OG; final year player option
2) Extend iHart at his max; final year player option
3) Extend Brunson with team-friendly deal
4) Extend Randle with team-friendly deal
5) Offer Precious & Burks vet min type deals... unlikely that either takes it
6) Draft three 2-way players via #24, #25, #38
7) Extend Thibs for 4 more years beyond next season; timeline matches "core" players' timeline
8) Keep Bogs and future picks until Feb '25 trade deadline for an upgrade
9) Leave Rokas overseas one more year
10) Offer Melton 3-year MLE deal

iHart / Robinson / Draftee
Randle / Hart
OG / Bogs / Draftee
DDV / McBride
Brunson / Melton / Draftee

Run. It. Back.

1 - unlikely, he is limited by 140% extension rule, so it would 20 mil opt in with the extension, max he can sign is around 4 year 120 mil. so 20 + 120 = 5 year 140 mil deal basically. he can do better than that on a 4 year deal.
2 - sure if he accepts it
3 - unlikely, you offer it, but there is a delta of 100+ million if he waits till next offseason.
4 - sure, but what is team friend meet player friendly intersection point.
5 - unliekly, just to keep precious RFA, his qualifing offer is 6+ mil
6 - sure, but those 3 rookies will cost about 7 mil cap space.
7 - done deal
8 - unlikely, since keeping both OG, ihart, 3 picks etc and then picking up bogs option puts them into the 2nd apron, only way i see them picking it up is they know ihart or og is leaving.
9 - sure, but he has some say in it.
10 - goes back to point 8. if you keep borgs + og + ihart you are into the 2nd apron, no mle to offer, if they keep OG + ihart but let bogs walk, then they should have enough space to offer full mle deal, but it will be close.

Stop dashing my dreams

[nedleeds]

Hope is a great plan. Usually works out.