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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1141 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue May 21, 2024 9:32 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:How about just adding Randle and OG?

my plan would be to add one of those players with randle and og. extra insurance on offense in case one of them goes down with an injury again. although some of these guys have injury risks as well admittingly.

Acquiring one of those guys will mean gutting the bench. I would look to just add some bench help like maybe Oubre and Tyus.

I don't know that our cap situation will allow us to bring in a player that makes that much money. Plus, we have iHart who we need to sign along with the other guys. Where's the cap space coming from? And what are you willing to give up in contracts in order to make a deal like that work?

you can get bones hyland for cheap. maybe 2 2nd round picks.

sexton shouldn't require much.

idk schit about cap space and contracts. trade bojan and mitch or donte to create that space to get another star. idc lol
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1142 » by sol537 » Tue May 21, 2024 9:33 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:fk them hustle guys we got plenty of them, we need some offensive players. we should be looking at the following players that will probably be available this summer

donovan mitchell
brandon ingram
paul george
dejounte murray
collin sexton
bones hyland (potential to be high upside)

How about just adding Randle and OG?

my plan would be to add one of those players with randle and og. extra insurance on offense in case one of them goes down with an injury again. although some of these guys have injury risks as well admittingly.


Caruso is a clear upgrade over McBride and gives us more of what we need. So that simple seemingly "lateral" move could be pretty big... just like going from IQ/RJ to OG... improves our defense, makes us stronger on the boards, and gives us another guy who can run an offense for 10+ minutes...and he just turned 30 so he's basically Randle's age. No one would kill Chicago for cashing in on Caruso by getting McBride and pick(s) back. They should be cashing in on Derozan, Vuc, and others while they still can.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1143 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue May 21, 2024 9:39 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:How about just adding Randle and OG?

my plan would be to add one of those players with randle and og. extra insurance on offense in case one of them goes down with an injury again. although some of these guys have injury risks as well admittingly.


Caruso is a clear upgrade over McBride and gives us more of what we need. So that simple seemingly "lateral" move could be pretty big... just like going from IQ/RJ to OG... improves our defense, makes us stronger on the boards, and gives us another guy who can run an offense for 10+ minutes...and he just turned 30 so he's basically Randle's age. No one would kill Chicago for cashing in on Caruso by getting McBride and pick(s) back. They should be cashing in on Derozan, Vuc, and others while they still can.

caruso is good. but i would rather roll the dice on deuce. i think he has a lot of upside left. would not be surprised if deuce can turn into a guy that can give us like 12 ppg off the bench and getting better defensively. like a mini marcus smart imo
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1144 » by sol537 » Tue May 21, 2024 9:41 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:my plan would be to add one of those players with randle and og. extra insurance on offense in case one of them goes down with an injury again. although some of these guys have injury risks as well admittingly.


Caruso is a clear upgrade over McBride and gives us more of what we need. So that simple seemingly "lateral" move could be pretty big... just like going from IQ/RJ to OG... improves our defense, makes us stronger on the boards, and gives us another guy who can run an offense for 10+ minutes...and he just turned 30 so he's basically Randle's age. No one would kill Chicago for cashing in on Caruso by getting McBride and pick(s) back. They should be cashing in on Derozan, Vuc, and others while they still can.

caruso is good. but i would rather roll the dice on deuce. i think he has a lot of upside left. would not be surprised if deuce can turn into a guy that can give us like 12 ppg off the bench and getting better defensively. like a mini marcus smart imo


That works too.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1145 » by KnixinSix » Tue May 21, 2024 9:42 pm

I like the idea of Bridges. He had a down year and Nets may be ready to move on especially for an overpay. Brunson taking 100M less says to me they will make this the team Brunny wants. I don't think it's super unrealistic at this point especially if we offer the most.




Regarding Randle...There's been plenty to criticize Julius about in the past...  

He's not a perfect player. He's too slow to rotate the ball out of the post sometimes. He takes a lot of hard shots (and hits some of them). He'd bring the ball up and be slow to make decisions on the screen. He does pout. He sometimes takes defensive plays off.

Even with all of that, he demands respect with the ball in his hands. The gravity he plays with gives other players better shots, including Brunson who was feasting on open threes off of Julius's rotations. And he's already on the team, so you wouldn't have to give up assets to get him. In 2 of the last 4 seasons he was a top 15 player. And some of that was when he was the only offensive option.

He's a tough guy who has been a warrior for us since we signed him and he deserves a shot to play with a good roster.

It'll give us a chance to see if January was a fluke or if the team is as elite as the record said it was.

With that said, If we somehow got Bridges I would not be opposed to trading Randle for KAT because Minny will be kinda desperate to shed payroll. And KAT complements Brunson better IMO. However I wouldn't be devastated if we just kept Randle either. Of course I wouldn't mind Randle for Spidah instead either. I want to prolong Brunson's career and a backcourt mate like Spidah could be amazing for him.

Also find a way to keep I Hart , trade Mitch if you need to. Dude can't stay healthy.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1146 » by newyorker4ever » Tue May 21, 2024 9:58 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:fk them hustle guys we got plenty of them, we need some offensive players. we should be looking at the following players that will probably be available this summer

donovan mitchell
brandon ingram
paul george
dejounte murray
collin sexton
bones hyland (potential to be high upside)


Can we please just make sure they can hit their free throws because these playoffs were frustrating as hellz whenever we got a guy to the line?!
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1147 » by Wildcat » Tue May 21, 2024 10:05 pm

KnixinSix wrote:I like the idea of Bridges. He had a down year and Nets may be ready to move on especially for an overpay. Brunson taking 100M less says to me they will make this the team Brunny wants. I don't think it's super unrealistic at this point especially if we offer the most.




Regarding Randle...There's been plenty to criticize Julius about in the past...  

He's not a perfect player. He's too slow to rotate the ball out of the post sometimes. He takes a lot of hard shots (and hits some of them). He'd bring the ball up and be slow to make decisions on the screen. He does pout. He sometimes takes defensive plays off.

Even with all of that, he demands respect with the ball in his hands. The gravity he plays with gives other players better shots, including Brunson who was feasting on open threes off of Julius's rotations. And he's already on the team, so you wouldn't have to give up assets to get him. In 2 of the last 4 seasons he was a top 15 player. And some of that was when he was the only offensive option.

He's a tough guy who has been a warrior for us since we signed him and he deserves a shot to play with a good roster.

It'll give us a chance to see if January was a fluke or if the team is as elite as the record said it was.

With that said, If we somehow got Bridges I would not be opposed to trading Randle for KAT because Minny will be kinda desperate to shed payroll. And KAT complements Brunson better IMO. However I wouldn't be devastated if we just kept Randle either. Of course I wouldn't mind Randle for Spidah instead either. I want to prolong Brunson's career and a backcourt mate like Spidah could be amazing for him.

Also find a way to keep I Hart , trade Mitch if you need to. Dude can't stay healthy.


Shed this myth. T-Wolves are not trading KAT. The deeper they go into the playoffs, the more profitable they are, the less likely they are to blow it up because they can afford the cap hit. In the 22/23 season, for example, they earned 256 mil in revenue against a 174 mil cap hit. And they were bumped in the 1st round. Their current cap hit is 198 mil. Even if they plateau at 256 revenue -- very, very unlikely -- the team is still profitable, which makes a deal very unlikely. Their core is signed. KAT isn't going anywhere.
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Post#1148 » by DaGawd » Tue May 21, 2024 10:10 pm

yeah at this point if you’re the wolves do you really break up a core that looks like a title contender? hard to see kat going anywhere at this point
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Post#1149 » by WargamesX » Tue May 21, 2024 10:38 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:we should also be looking to move mitch. the guy is just injury prone. you can't rely on him anymore


But when he is even semi-healthy he can go toe to toe with Embiid. A lot of bigs can’t say that even at 100%.

it doesnt seem like he can even stay semi healhy anymore. that's the problem.


Bynum was injury prone but the timing worked out that he got some championships. The thunder could have added Tyson Chandler to the core of Westbrook, Harden, and KD but worried he was injury prone. A lot of good defensive bigs are injury prone, it’s the nature of the position. Now that the splash bros era is coming to an end bigs are at a premium. Plus the draft is full of just enough centers I think no one grossly overpays IHart. He came back and wasn’t a 100% to help out and may have gone through the whole playoffs if it wasn’t for that dirty bum Embiid. Plus game 1 vs. the Pacers him as IHarts back up was a major part of the Knicks having the easiest win of the series in my opinion
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Post#1150 » by TrueWarrior » Tue May 21, 2024 10:49 pm

We do not need much more, if any, offense.

Jalen can get 25-30 ppg
Julius can get 20-25 ppg
Donte and OG can get 14-18 ppg
Bojan and Deuce can get 10-13 ppg
Etc.

Remember in early January, after the OG trade, when we were all clamoring for another scorer? Brogdon, Dejounte, and what not?

Then Deuce started playing, and playing well. Then Donte started lighting it up. Then Isaiah started getting comfortable, facilitating and using floaters. Then we traded for Bojan and Alec.

We have more than enough offense. Guys just need to stay healthy.

Jalen is 1st option
Julius is 2nd option
Donte and OG share 3rd/4th option
Isaiah is 5th option

Deuce can grow into our 6th man to replace IQ, but Bojan will help him out for now (if he stays another year). Josh and Mitch will do their things. The starters will be staggered in with the bench as well.

Another cheap scorer would be nice for insurance (like playoff Burks), but my point is we have plenty of room for offensive improvement within. OG, Donte, Isaiah, and Deuce have all shown they could reach another level. OG when he’s aggressive is Kawhi-lite. Donte and Deuce have grown so much, and will continue to. Isaiah should let the corner threes fly and just take more shots in general.

The era of the big 3 is over with the new tax aprons. We are building a deep and tough squad. We aren’t trying to be the Suns.

Our defense, while hampered by injuries, was not good in the playoffs. Adding Mikal or Caruso over a chucker would be my move, unless somebody like Giannis asks out.
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Post#1151 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue May 21, 2024 11:08 pm

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But when he is even semi-healthy he can go toe to toe with Embiid. A lot of bigs can’t say that even at 100%.

it doesnt seem like he can even stay semi healhy anymore. that's the problem.


Bynum was injury prone but the timing worked out that he got some championships. The thunder could have added Tyson Chandler to the core of Westbrook, Harden, and KD but worried he was injury prone. A lot of good defensive bigs are injury prone, it’s the nature of the position. Now that the splash bros era is coming to an end bigs are at a premium. Plus the draft is full of just enough centers I think no one grossly overpays IHart. He came back and wasn’t a 100% to help out and may have gone through the whole playoffs if it wasn’t for that dirty bum Embiid. Plus game 1 vs. the Pacers him as IHarts back up was a major part of the Knicks having the easiest win of the series in my opinion

Bynum was a much better player than Mitch ever was though

Mitch is good when healthy and slim but dude has been out of shape 2 years in a row now and keeps getting big injuries. It's time to move on from him before his contract gets any worse
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Post#1152 » by rajajackal » Tue May 21, 2024 11:12 pm

hartenstein really let me down in the playoffs. he just doesn't have the physical abilities to win tipoffs, he's hot and cold as a rebounder, i rather let him walk and sign or draft a quality backup for mitch that can distribute the minutes with him. we can replace ihart's passing by using randle similarly. if anything putting randle in that role is a massive upgrade for the team's offense
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Post#1153 » by WargamesX » Tue May 21, 2024 11:35 pm

Mitch and IHart are a great defensive center duo who will combined cost less than Rudy Gobert. Letting either go is a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

We need bench help, we need someone who can create a bit better at the backup PG position, we need to stay healthy.
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Post#1154 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue May 21, 2024 11:37 pm

if we let ihart go we'll need to find a starting center. mitch isnt a starter anymore in the league
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Post#1155 » by WargamesX » Tue May 21, 2024 11:38 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:if we let ihart go we'll need to find a starting center. mitch isnt a starter anymore in the league


Can you name a better back up center?

He’s gonna make $15 and $12 mil over the next two years as well in that order.

Mitch is not a problem.
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Post#1156 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue May 21, 2024 11:45 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:if we let ihart go we'll need to find a starting center. mitch isnt a starter anymore in the league


Can you name a better back up center?

He’s gonna make $15 and $12 mil over the next two years as well in that order.

Mitch is not a problem.

there's some decent free agents out there. jonas valucinas, bol bol, jaxson hayes.

mitch has had like 4 surgeries in the past 2 seasons. that's a massive problem.
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Post#1157 » by TrueWarrior » Tue May 21, 2024 11:45 pm

rajajackal wrote:hartenstein really let me down in the playoffs. he just doesn't have the physical abilities to win tipoffs, he's hot and cold as a rebounder, i rather let him walk and sign or draft a quality backup for mitch that can distribute the minutes with him. we can replace ihart's passing by using randle similarly. if anything putting randle in that role is a massive upgrade for the team's offense


Isaiah was not as good as I hoped in the playoffs, but he held his own for his first time starting. Im sure he was pretty banged up and fatigued by the end too, with no other front court players besides Precious around.

The flipside is if he played amazing and broke out on the national stage, we wouldn’t be able to keep him. Our offer should be right up his alley now.

Isaiah had some of the best advanced stats in the whole league. His raw stats may not jump off the page, but we would have been royally screwed if we didnt have him after Mitch went down again. Jericho sucks and Precious is undersized for a C.

If he stays I want to see him expand his offense though. No reason he cant take some jumpers or even threes going forward. That would truly unlock our team like crazy. He has the passing, floater, and a decent hook shot, so just add some corner threes this offseason.
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Post#1158 » by Jeffrey » Tue May 21, 2024 11:46 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:if we let ihart go we'll need to find a starting center. mitch isnt a starter anymore in the league


Can you name a better back up center?

He’s gonna make $15 and $12 mil over the next two years as well in that order.

Mitch is not a problem.


You are right but he is not available. So we would need a decent 3rd center because Mitch is not available.
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Post#1159 » by WargamesX » Tue May 21, 2024 11:46 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:if we let ihart go we'll need to find a starting center. mitch isnt a starter anymore in the league


Can you name a better back up center?

He’s gonna make $15 and $12 mil over the next two years as well in that order.

Mitch is not a problem.

there's some decent free agents out there. jonas valucinas, bol bol, jaxson hayes.

mitch has had like 4 surgeries in the past 2 seasons. that's a massive problem.


I take Mitch over all of them. :dontknow:
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Post#1160 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue May 21, 2024 11:47 pm

WargamesX wrote:
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WargamesX wrote:
Can you name a better back up center?

He’s gonna make $15 and $12 mil over the next two years as well in that order.

Mitch is not a problem.

there's some decent free agents out there. jonas valucinas, bol bol, jaxson hayes.

mitch has had like 4 surgeries in the past 2 seasons. that's a massive problem.


I take Mitch over all of them. :dontknow:

it's too bad mitch is never available to play. time to move on
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