2024 NBA Draft - DA BULLS Edition Pick #11

[jnrjr79]

Being one elite player on a team is different then being the guy to pick all the players and coach.

I guess my point is that if you have a really good exec who hasn't won a title in a mere 10 years (due to a combination of not great luck and maybe not being the absolute best), and you fire him because " his time is up", there is an extremely high likelihood that his replacement and their replacement will be much worse than he is.

Most likely after 10 years the team isn't winning 50 games and they move on to someone else. Probably the closet you get is Tim Connelly who built the Denver team that won the title but left the year before to build the Wolves team that currently has the 2nd best odds to win the title.

He didn't really build the Wolves team. Ant, McDaniels, and KAT were already there. He did a nice job tweaking though by getting Conley and, in a move that appeared to be a disaster at the time, Gobert.

[Ice Man]

He didn't really build the Wolves team. Ant, McDaniels, and KAT were already there.

As was Naz Reid. That was a loaded group -- it was gonna make noise no matter what Connelly did. But credit him for an excellent move in getting Conley. Gobert is more controversial, although it looks good now. But if Minnesota loses the next series and Gobert appears to be one of the reasons why, opinions on him will change in a hurry. Hell, Barkley wanted him benched for the second half of Game 7 ...

[Red8911]

I’m not sure if Buzelis is good or not but he was born/grew up in Chicago and is Lithuanian same as AK. This is an obvious pick for the bulls if he’s there at 11 , again I have no idea who he is but wouldn’t be surprised if that’s who they draft. AK maybe knows and played with his father who was also a pro.

[SirKaiser]

I’m not sure if Buzelis is good or not but he was born/grew up in Chicago and is Lithuanian same as AK. This is an obvious pick for the bulls if he’s there at 11 , again I have no idea who he is but wouldn’t be surprised if that’s who they draft. AK maybe knows and played with his father who was also a pro.

Latest mock draft on bleacher report has him falling to us at #11

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10121302-2024-nba-mock-draft-a-new-no-1-pro-player-comps-for-every-prospect/

Salaun is next at #12. Either guy would be great for this team. Just praying that we don't give Billy another guard to add to his 5 guard rotation...

[kodo]

Yeah I like Ayo but he'd have to seriously up his self creation. 55% of his 2-pointers and 89% of his 3-pointers were assisted. I know you mentioned he won't be as good as Brunson, but just to give the comparison for Brunson only 23% of his 2-pointers and 58% of his 3-pointers were assisted.

Coby might be the closer comparison - 28% of 2-pointers assisted, but still 83% of 3-pointers.

This has shown me how much the Bulls rely on others to create 3-point opportunities.

% of 3P FG's that are assisted for out top 3-point shooer by volume:

Coby - 83%
Zach - 52%
Caruso - 89%
Vuc - 100% [golly I dislike this guy - 4th most 3PA, while hitting 26% of his 3's and 100% of his makes are assisted]
Ayo - 89%
Williams - 96%
Carter - 87%

If there's ever been a stat to create hesitancy in wanting to trade Zach, I think I just found it.

Very much agreed, just looking at 3P% is lacking. We saw a bunch of highly assisted Denver 3P shooters all just get shut out when it matters, the only guys able to generate more than 5 points in an elimination game were guys who create their own shot, Joker/Murray.

Shooters who are advancing in the playoffs create their own 3P shots:
Brunson: 57%
Haliburton: 50%
Mitchell: 50%
Lillard: 49%
SGA: 35%
Luka: 29%
Kyrie: 64%

[Muzbar]

I’m not sure if Buzelis is good or not but he was born/grew up in Chicago and is Lithuanian same as AK. This is an obvious pick for the bulls if he’s there at 11 , again I have no idea who he is but wouldn’t be surprised if that’s who they draft. AK maybe knows and played with his father who was also a pro.

Latest mock draft on bleacher report has him falling to us at #11

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10121302-2024-nba-mock-draft-a-new-no-1-pro-player-comps-for-every-prospect/

Salaun is next at #12. Either guy would be great for this team. Just praying that we don't give Billy another guard to add to his 5 guard rotation...

I'd be amazed and thrilled if Buzelis is available at 11.

[2weekswithpay]

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His stock continues to rise. He could sneak into the lottery on draft night.

[kulaz3000]

As far as who may be available around the 11th pick, I still like Ja'Kobe Walker as another shooter with 3D potential. Though he was inconsistent with his shot, I think he will end up being a really good shooter and multi-dimensional scorer. I think he will make an impact right away.

As for a potential pick, I'm really intrigued by Tidjane Salaun - super raw, but I think he is the type of player that the Bulls hoped Patrick would be. He is taller, definitely needs to put on weight, but I think he is a lot more fluid and light on his feet than Patrick, where Patrick seems a lot more heavy footed at times. He could be a multipurpose defender, but I think his shooting will come along. He will definitely be a project though, but he looks to have a lot of potential.

I'd be happy with either of those player, but then again, either of those players could fall or be picked before 11.

[Chi town]

I think Salaun is a future 5.

[2weekswithpay]

I think Salaun is a future 5.

Why do you think that? He hasn't played the 5 as a pro and he doesn't get many rebounds or blocks. Salaun has played over 2,000 minutes this season and last and he only has 16 blocks in that time.

[Chi town]

I think Salaun is a future 5.

Why do you think that? He hasn't played the 5 as a pro and he doesn't get many rebounds or blocks. Salaun has played over 2,000 minutes this season and last and he only has 16 blocks in that time.

He’s 18 and will grow a bit more. He’s already strong and will fill in even more. With his quickness and length he could be a big mismatch at the 5.

Still a big project.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

I think Salaun is a future 5.

Why do you think that? He hasn't played the 5 as a pro and he doesn't get many rebounds or blocks. Salaun has played over 2,000 minutes this season and last and he only has 16 blocks in that time.

Wow. Regardless of position, you’d think a kid that size would walk into more blocks than that. I don’t love it.

[Dan Z]

As far as who may be available around the 11th pick, I still like Ja'Kobe Walker as another shooter with 3D potential. Though he was inconsistent with his shot, I think he will end up being a really good shooter and multi-dimensional scorer. I think he will make an impact right away.

As for a potential pick, I'm really intrigued by Tidjane Salaun - super raw, but I think he is the type of player that the Bulls hoped Patrick would be. He is taller, definitely needs to put on weight, but I think he is a lot more fluid and light on his feet than Patrick, where Patrick seems a lot more heavy footed at times. He could be a multipurpose defender, but I think his shooting will come along. He will definitely be a project though, but he looks to have a lot of potential.

I'd be happy with either of those player, but then again, either of those players could fall or be picked before 11.

My concern is that Salaun is a project. If he's a Dalen Terry/Phillips type and spends his first few years primarily in the G League then that's no good. Or if he's a Patrick Williams type, a player who occasionally shows potential but it takes years before he reaches it (if that even happens...the jury is out on PW and as the years go bye it seems less likely he'll get there).

I'd much rather have an Ayo type who can contribute early on and gradually gets better. Or Coby White who improves every year and at some point takes a big step forward. Of course it's difficult to predict all of this and many players in this draft are projects who will take time.

[PlayerUp]

My concern is that Salaun is a project. If he's a Dalen Terry/Phillips type and spends his first few years primarily in the G League then that's no good. Or if he's a Patrick Williams type, a player who occasionally shows potential but it takes years before he reaches it (if that even happens...the jury is out on PW and as the years go bye it seems less likely he'll get there).

I'd much rather have an Ayo type who can contribute early on and gradually gets better. Or Coby White who improves every year and at some point takes a big step forward. Of course it's difficult to predict all of this and many players in this draft are projects who will take time.

He is a project and about as raw as you can get. We can't keep loading up players like this to our roster. We already took 3 of them that are currently on this roster and we need to focus on developing them.

Getting a high IQ player that can create, are hardworking and does a little bit of everything that can develop later is always the best route to go when drafting a player.

[Dan Z]

Does anyone think that the Bulls should make a trade to move up in the draft? Or are you okay with #11?

[Muzbar]

Does anyone think that the Bulls should make a trade to move up in the draft? Or are you okay with #11?

Personally, I'm ok at 11.

But I really like Buzelis so I would also wouldn't mind a move up.

There'll be a decent player at 11 though.

[PlayerUp]

Does anyone think that the Bulls should make a trade to move up in the draft? Or are you okay with #11?

100% not worth it. There isn't much difference drafting #1 or #11 this draft. Personally dislike most of the prospects going in the Top 10 and don't see any star.

If anything, you might consider trading down a few spots or even better trading out completely.

[PlayerUp]

But I really like Buzelis so I would also wouldn't mind a move up.

Not worth moving up. He reminds me of Hedo but he needs alot of development. What skill does he currently have that will 100% translate? I expect he drops in the draft, might be available at #11.

As always, you draft the player that you feel can develop. Developing is the key to any prospect you're drafting. With that said, we'll see what improvements he has made in the weeks to come.

[Jcool0]

But I really like Buzelis so I would also wouldn't mind a move up.

Not worth moving up. He reminds me of Hedo but he needs alot of development. What skill does he currently have that will 100% translate? I expect he drops in the draft, might be available at #11.

As always, you draft the player that you feel can develop. Developing is the key to any prospect you're drafting. With that said, we'll see what improvements he has made in the weeks to come.

If he is Franz Wagner/Hedo Turkoglu type i think most Bulls fans wold be happy with that.

[DuckIII]

Does anyone think that the Bulls should make a trade to move up in the draft? Or are you okay with #11?

Personally, I'm ok at 11.

But I really like Buzelis so I would also wouldn't mind a move up.

There'll be a decent player at 11 though.

I’m okay at 11 too. But there are some players who, if they start slipping towards our spot, I’d trade up to get if the additional ask is reasonable.