Miami Heat Offseason Thread vol. 2 : We Running it Back.. (WITH MITCHELL!)

[3ammy3uck3ts]

That Dru person is annoying. Stop posting stuff for clicks. The man bought another house. Get a life(I'm talking about that Dru person).

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He’s actually a good follow, find any mention of the Heat in articles or podcasts, any Heat fan not following him over the summer are doing themselves a disservice

[Lennyzinho]

Why wouldn't he? It's an opportunity to screw the Heat into paying Bam the super max.

You make it sound like Bam controls voting for analysts media. About 20 podcasters and media folks out of the 100 that vote, already stated how they'd vote. Bam wasn't mentioned even once. Not even in the conversation when they talk about 2-3 dudes that could've should've but won't. So he won't make it. And he's eligible for an extension. Players always want the security of a max extension. So he very likely signs the 3-165M extension which means he'd be locked up for next season plus four more. However, if he makes an all nba team twice during the last 3 years before extension or once before the extension (the NEXT one in 3-4 years), he will get a supermax offer.
If he makes an all nba team after signing this extension, his salary doesn't trigger an escalation or anything. He doesn't get bonuses. You have to make it the year before you sign or two of three years before you sign. If he makes it next year, his contract doesn't jump to that automatically.

I think this person is talking about luck, instead of just keeping Bam on the max Miami would have to spend even more to retain the same player. About 10 or so years ago this screwed OKC (they thought Westbrook's contract would stay at just the max) by automatically (not sure how the wording in the contract was) moving Westbrook from a max to a supermax and they decided they could only keep Ibaka and Harden at a certain number and in the end... OKC traded Harden because he didn't accept their extension at that number (the team hadn't built up enough money to handle going into the tax yet as a small market team).

I'd have to guess the wording of the contract means everything, if it just mentions the max instead of % of the cap, the supermax would be the new max for someone who is eligible for it.

I get that. But I think people confuse how it works. It's only valid at the time of the extension. Once the deal is signed, it doesn't matter how many times he makes all nba or wins DPOY, it won't change the current deal. It'll only affect the NEXT extension or contract he signs, whenever that is.

He's not gonna make all nba this year. So he will be offered a max 3-165M. There is no scenario bam makes super max money for at least 5 more years.

If he doesn't want to sign it because he wants to bet on himself making all nba, which is pretty risky and almost unheard of, he can play out this next season (he has two years left), hope he makes all nba 2024-2025 season, to then sign the super-max. But risking your health and guaranteed 55M for three years to try to secure a four 61M for four years doesn't seem worth it and no agent will ever suggest that. I don't think I've ever seen a player turn down a max extension because they want to try getting a super max instead, when they haven't been able to secure it up to that point).

[Lennyzinho]

That Dru person is annoying. Stop posting stuff for clicks. The man bought another house. Get a life(I'm talking about that Dru person).

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He’s actually a good follow, find any mention of the Heat in articles or podcasts, any Heat fan not following him over the summer are doing themselves a disservice

When I saw the post about Jimmy selling his house in south Miami, I was thinking to myself, I bet he bought an even bigger house in the gables or Grove. This dude ain't leaving Miami. Can't believe he doesn't live waterfront and have a boat.

And then boom, this gets posted lol. Jimmy will retire here. Riley is a psycho but so is Jimmy, sure he loved the challenge. And I'm here for it.

Let's get that herro JJJ and pick(s) for donovan done.

[carnageta]

Wouldn't mind Chris Paul here as a backup vet PG.

[AirP.]

That Dru person is annoying. Stop posting stuff for clicks. The man bought another house. Get a life(I'm talking about that Dru person).

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He’s actually a good follow, find any mention of the Heat in articles or podcasts, any Heat fan not following him over the summer are doing themselves a disservice

When I saw the post about Jimmy selling his house in south Miami, I was thinking to myself, I bet he bought an even bigger house in the gables or Grove. This dude ain't leaving Miami. Can't believe he doesn't live waterfront and have a boat.

And then boom, this gets posted lol. Jimmy will retire here. Riley is a psycho but so is Jimmy, sure he loved the challenge. And I'm here for it.

Let's get that herro JJJ and pick(s) for donovan done.

I think the extra rest days are for prolonging a player's career more than just being a little more rested for the playoffs. I would think at this point, if butler were to get the max extension, then Miami and Butler are connected at the hip so if Butler plays more and gets hurt in the regular season it effects Miami more than it effects Butler. We're not just taking about Butler playing a few more regular season games to get up to 70, it's also time for Butler to perform near his top-level vs coasting so much for his Miami legacy.

Butler currently is at 5 years in Miami, once he gets to 7, he'll have played more years in Miami than in Chicago.

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[Beenie]

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G-Unit Stunt 101 knockoff intro song, eh

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Wouldn't mind Chris Paul here as a backup vet PG.

He's going to the Lakers to be with LeBron.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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All these Cleveland reporters hyping up Herro to the Cavs is such a treat compared to last year's debacle with those piece of chit Blazers talking heads. They were all extensions of Cronin. They all deserve pure misery. I hope Herro becomes an allstar in Cleveland.

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All these Cleveland reporters hyping up Herro to the Cavs is such a treat compared to last year's debacle with those piece of chit Blazers talking heads. They were all extensions of Cronin. They all deserve pure misery. I hope Herro becomes an allstar in Cleveland.

Portland didn't need Herro since they had Simons, Sharpe and Scoot plus the 1sts they more than likely would have gotten didn't have a high chance of getting the quality younger player they were looking for. Miami could have leaked a competitive package out there to the media to get the Portland fanbase to be possibly happy with the trade and push to move Lillard but instead Miami stayed quiet and hoped their leverage would get them Lillard for 70-80 cents on the dollar.

[RexBoyWonder]

Looking at free agents that might accept vet minimum next offseason, I feel confident that if we offer Herro + JJJ + 2014 pick + 2 future picks for Mitchell we could still build a good enough roster to contend.

With Rich, Delon, Love likely staying,
Alondes might be able to contribute,
Might be able to keep Highsmith
+ a bunch of solid enough vets willing to take the minimum.

Jovic is the only one we really need to stay to feel good about the front court, he's very hard to replace going forward.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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All these Cleveland reporters hyping up Herro to the Cavs is such a treat compared to last year's debacle with those piece of chit Blazers talking heads. They were all extensions of Cronin. They all deserve pure misery. I hope Herro becomes an allstar in Cleveland.

Portland didn't need Herro since they had Simons, Sharpe and Scoot plus the 1sts they more than likely would have gotten didn't have a high chance of getting the quality younger player they were looking for. Miami could have leaked a competitive package out there to the media to get the Portland fanbase to be possibly happy with the trade and push to move Lillard but instead Miami stayed quiet and hoped their leverage would get them Lillard for 70-80 cents on the dollar.

I thought it was played terribly all the way around. Botched effort by everyone involved. We could have found a third team to take on Herro to siphon assets over to Portland. Cronin just didn't want to deal with us once he was backed into a corner and the media talking heads were spewing that we had the worst package of players to ever exist. Feels much different this go around.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Herro,Robinson,and JJJ for Mitchell and Levert is such a clean trade. With our 43rd pick there’s like 4 new versions of Duncan that will be sitting there between Karaban, Scheierman, Sandfort, and Larson.

[twix2500]

Herro,Robinson,and JJJ for Mitchell and Levert is such a clean trade. With our 43rd pick there’s like 4 new versions of Duncan that will be sitting there between Karaban, Scheierman, Sandfort, and Larson.

This is what I would do. Herro, Jaquez and Bryant and picks for Mitchell (the rumor deal).

PG: Mitchell - Rozier
SG: Butler - Richardson
SF: D. Robinson
PF: Jovic
Ce: Adebayo - Love - O. Robinson

Trade Rozier to a team with caproom and who is looking for a point guard like the Orlando Magic. Rozier for a 1st round pick, a 2nd and Anthony.

Should give the Heat enough room to resign Martin

PG: Mitchell - Anthony
SG: Butler - Richardson
SF: D. Robinson - Martin
PF: Jovic
Ce: Adebayo - Love - O. Robinson

Draft a powerforward or center lets say Da Silva, bring back the 2 way players like Williams and Sider

PG: Mitchell - Anthony - Williams
SG: Butler - Richardson
SF: D. Robinson - Martin - Swider
PF: Jovic - Da Silva
Ce: Adebayo - Love - O. Robinson

[Kobewade11]

Portland didn't need Herro since they had Simons, Sharpe and Scoot plus the 1sts they more than likely would have gotten didn't have a high chance of getting the quality younger player they were looking for. Miami could have leaked a competitive package out there to the media to get the Portland fanbase to be possibly happy with the trade and push to move Lillard but instead Miami stayed quiet and hoped their leverage would get them Lillard for 70-80 cents on the dollar.

There's no package not involving Jimmy or Bam that Miami could have leaked to the media to make the Portland FO or fanbase 'happy' about sending their franchise player to the team he was hellbent on forcing his way to.

[Flash4thewin]

Herro,Robinson,and JJJ for Mitchell and Levert is such a clean trade. With our 43rd pick there’s like 4 new versions of Duncan that will be sitting there between Karaban, Scheierman, Sandfort, and Larson.

This is what I would do. Herro, Jaquez and Bryant and picks for Mitchell (the rumor deal).

PG: Mitchell - Rozier
SG: Butler - Richardson
SF: D. Robinson
PF: Jovic
Ce: Adebayo - Love - O. Robinson

Trade Rozier to a team with caproom and who is looking for a point guard like the Orlando Magic. Rozier for a 1st round pick, a 2nd and Anthony.

Should give the Heat enough room to resign Martin

PG: Mitchell - Anthony
SG: Butler - Richardson
SF: D. Robinson - Martin
PF: Jovic
Ce: Adebayo - Love - O. Robinson

Draft a powerforward or center lets say Da Silva, bring back the 2 way players like Williams and Sider

PG: Mitchell - Anthony - Williams
SG: Butler - Richardson
SF: D. Robinson - Martin - Swider
PF: Jovic - Da Silva
Ce: Adebayo - Love - O. Robinson

Terry sadly does not have that value. Orlando hangs up that call so quickly.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

As crazy as it sounds there’s Heat fans out there praying Mitchell signs his extension or gets traded elsewhere so they can hit us with the good ole fashioned “haha but I thought we were getting Mitchell?!?! Just face it he wasn’t worth Herro and Jaime, Pat didn’t want to trade Herro for him last time why would he now?” Running victory laps about their team not getting better like last offseason all over again

Some people just can’t help but be dicks and would rather see the team strike out just to talk reckless.

Stay tuned.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

WCJ would be a great pickup as a secondary move after getting a star if possible. No clue what it would take but weren’t there rumors they were open to moving him because they liked what they saw from Goga?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Oh wait they actually gave 3rd team to Sabonis?!?! Bam did get snubbed then lmao we’ll take it though we needed him to miss it

Man these voters are so ass, how many times does Sabonis also have to be exposed on the biggest stage before these dumb fuxks open their eyes