At what point does Brad or the assists help coach Joe with adjustments?

[return2glory]

When is Brad or the assists coaches going to step in a help coach Joe with making adjustments? Joe is good at some things but is terrible with creativity and making in game adjustments. He sticks to the same rotation no matter what and it nearly cost of game one. Had it not been for Brown's tough corner 3, this is a 0-1 series favoring the Pacers.

Almost every Celtic coach that watched this game knows what lack of adjustments I'm talking about. The Celtics assists know what I'm referring to. The Celtics owners knew what I'm alluding to. So does Brad.

Take Kornet out of the rotation. We were controlling the game in the 2nd quarter and Luke comes in and the Pacers immediately attack him. Turner scored 10 straight on him and assisted on another play after beating Kornet off the dribble. Our 10 or 12 point led was gone. The momentum switched to the Pacers side, all because Joe fails to see the obvious at times.

Evan Mobley destroyed Luke in game 5 of the Cavs series. Turner destroyed him in this game. When does Brad or any of the assists help Joe with this adjustment? Joe can't see it. Brad needs to have a meeting with him one on one and point this out. Everyone else can see it but Joe.

Brad went out and got Tillman for a reason. Just last season Tillman was starting in the playoffs and battling Anthony Davis and giving Davis a hard time. Tillman can challenge Turner for 12-18 minutes a game and impact the game.

The second adjustment Joe needs help with is inserting Oshae Brissett instead of Hauser, who has struggles in this playoffs.
This game should have been a 10-15 point win and we almost gave it away because Joe isn't capable of making in game adjustments. Brad sees this and isn't stepping in. This is a team game. We are close to a title and if Brad isn't pointing out minor adjustments to help the team on a quest to a title, than he is doing a disserve to the Celtics. For the record, I love Brad. He is a basketball genius. He shouldn't let this go just because he doesn't have to hurt Joe or Luke's feelings. This is about a title.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Never. If it gets to the point where Stevens feels like he needs to tell Mazzulla how to do his job then he should go hire a new head coach instead of babysitting the one he has.

The second adjustment Joe needs help with is inserting Oshae Brissett instead of Hauser, who has struggles in this playoffs.

Hauser has the highest net rating in the playoffs at +20.5. Hauser had the the highest net rating in the regular season at +14.2. Like everybody he has a bad game from time to time but the notion that the Hauser minutes have problematic at any point this season is just not true.

Take Kornet out of the rotation. We were controlling the game in the 2nd quarter and Luke comes in and the Pacers immediately attack him. Turner scored 10 straight on him and assisted on another play after beating Kornet off the dribble. Our 10 or 12 point led was gone. The momentum switched to the Pacers side, all because Joe fails to see the obvious at times.

The Celtics were up 80-75 in the third when Kornet checked back in. Then the Celtics went on a run to go up 92-81 when he checked out four minutes later. Funny how you don't mention that.

Brad went out and got Tillman for a reason. Just last season Tillman was starting in the playoffs and battling Anthony Davis and giving Davis a hard time. Tillman can challenge Turner for 12-18 minutes a game and impact the game.

Davis and Turner are two completely different match ups. One guy can't shoot from three and the other does most of his damage out of pick and pops. Doing a decent job on one doesn't mean you are equipped to defend the other.

[Darthlukey]

When is Brad or the assists coaches going to step in a help coach Joe with making adjustments? Joe is good at some things but is terrible with creativity and making in game adjustments. He sticks to the same rotation no matter what and it nearly cost of game one. Had it not been for Brown's tough corner 3, this is a 0-1 series favoring the Pacers.

Almost every Celtic coach that watched this game knows what lack of adjustments I'm talking about. The Celtics assists know what I'm referring to. The Celtics owners knew what I'm alluding to. So does Brad.

Take Kornet out of the rotation. We were controlling the game in the 2nd quarter and Luke comes in and the Pacers immediately attack him. Turner scored 10 straight on him and assisted on another play after beating Kornet off the dribble. Our 10 or 12 point led was gone. The momentum switched to the Pacers side, all because Joe fails to see the obvious at times.

Evan Mobley destroyed Luke in game 5 of the Cavs series. Turner destroyed him in this game. When does Brad or any of the assists help Joe with this adjustment? Joe can't see it. Brad needs to have a meeting with him one on one and point this out. Everyone else can see it but Joe.

Brad went out and got Tillman for a reason. Just last season Tillman was starting in the playoffs and battling Anthony Davis and giving Davis a hard time. Tillman can challenge Turner for 12-18 minutes a game and impact the game.

The second adjustment Joe needs help with is inserting Oshae Brissett instead of Hauser, who has struggles in this playoffs.
This game should have been a 10-15 point win and we almost gave it away because Joe isn't capable of making in game adjustments. Brad sees this and isn't stepping in. This is a team game. We are close to a title and if Brad isn't pointing out minor adjustments to help the team on a quest to a title, than he is doing a disserve to the Celtics. For the record, I love Brad. He is a basketball genius. He shouldn't let this go just because he doesn't have to hurt Joe or Luke's feelings. This is about a title.

CBS was a pretty damn good coach, and has shown he is probably better as a GM. But I remember plenty of criticism about him on the sidelines, particularly about adjustments and the use of his time outs. Brad providing coaching guidance could be very much a double edged sword

[BK_2020]

A lot of the talk was focused on which bench players Joe could have used instead of Pritchard, Kornet and Hauser but tbh there weren't really other realistic options. Tillman was out and I don't think he's shown anything to convince us he's better at defending in space even than Kornet. We ended up +2 in Kornet's minutes. Second, Hauser played 9 minutes I don't think Brissett would've played meaningfully better to make a difference over that short a time, if he plays better at all. Pritchard was really awful on defense but who else are we going to play. Springer or Svi wouldn't have been better. Guys who couldn't get minutes over Pritchard, Kornet and Hauser aren't going to help us.
It's also not realistic to play no more than one bench player at a time. There's just no way to work a rotation like that and still get people rest.
Minus 5 minutes of OT, Tatum played 41, Jrue 43, Jaylen 39, White 37, Horford 35. We can't play them more without losing effectiveness.

[Celts17Pride]

Three big things that should be a major concern for the Celtics:

1. Pacers relentlessly attacked Al Horford. (no fear of him blocking anyone's shot)
2. Myles Turner was the most aggressive I ever seen him the minute Kornet came in the game. Turner repeatedly went right at Kornet.
3. Pacer with 56 points in the paint.

Queta is a big body that takes up space and gives people driving the paint 2nd thoughts. Mazzulla has to try him in my opinion. If that doesn't work then pray KP gets back quickly.

[meatball sub]

joe has make some adjustments. no more pritchard, hauser & kornet on the floor together. that's #1

got to go to brissett and/or tillman for 5-10 minutes each instead of kornet when horford sits and have them play with jt, not jb.

have to insert some type of defensive energy during those minutes. we know they're going to hunt horford. we cant let them hunt kornet too. we will be able to score with those guys on the court as long as it's jt facilitating during those minutes.

[brackdan70]

At what point will couch potato QBs realize they don’t have a clue and that there is a reason coach is on the sidelines and they are yelling at the TV.

[Bad-Thoma]

At what point will couch potato QBs realize they don’t have a clue and that there is a reason coach is on the sidelines and they are yelling at the TV.

I'm pretty sure that point will never be reached and this is why we can't have nice things.

[FlightSisters]

Kornet was not his best yesterday, however i will continue to stress that a huge portion of Turner's points and the pacers offense was due to mismatches caused with pritchard in the game, which caused Kornet to be out of position. Having turner go ISO for a 2 pointer is what we want the pacers to do, just not off a ball swing where Kornet has to close out on a Turner 3 first.

Hauser should be in prior to Pritchard is adjustment #1.

[return2glory]

At what point will couch potato QBs realize they don’t have a clue and that there is a reason coach is on the sidelines and they are yelling at the TV.

This team should be winning by 10-15 points instead of almost losing to the Pacers in game 1. Mainly because as I mentioned before, Joe is good at a lot of things, making in game adjustments isn't one of them.

He beat a bad Heat team without Butler and Rozier. We beat a solid Cavs team without Michell in half those games and Allen missing the entire series. Well the Pacers have a healthy team. It's not going to be as easy. We got lucky in game 1, only because Joe's coaching and lack of adjustments got the Pacers back in the game. Turner and the Pacers attacked the Kornet match up and gained all the momentum to get them back in the game.

[return2glory]

Kornet was not his best yesterday, however i will continue to stress that a huge portion of Turner's points and the pacers offense was due to mismatches caused with pritchard in the game, which caused Kornet to be out of position. Having turner go ISO for a 2 pointer is what we want the pacers to do, just not off a ball swing where Kornet has to close out on a Turner 3 first.

Hauser should be in prior to Pritchard is adjustment #1.

Kornet ran back on defense a few times in the 2nd quarter and was standing in the paint with Turner 15 feet away from him for open 3s. There is no excuse for that. Everyone knows that's he's man and that Turner can hit 3s.

[BK_2020]

At what point will couch potato QBs realize they don’t have a clue and that there is a reason coach is on the sidelines and they are yelling at the TV.

This team should be winning by 10-15 minutes instead of almost losing to the Pacers in game 1. Mainly because as I mentioned before, Joe is good at a lot of things, making in game adjustments isn't one of them.

He beat a bad Heat team without Butler and Rozier. We beat a solid Cavs team without Michell in half those games and Allen missing the entire series. Well the Pacers have a healthy team. It's not going to be as easy. We got lucky in game 1, only because Joe's coaching and lack of adjustments got the Pacers back in the game. Turner and the Pacers attacked the Kornet match up and gained all the momentum to get them back in the game.

We were +2 in Kornet's minutes. This is not to say Kornet was the reason we won his minutes but it's simply not accurate that Kornet was the reason they got back in the game. Indiana made several runs last night, but only one of them happened with Kornet in the game and it was a very minor run. Kornet came in in the 1st up 7, and when he left we were up 7. He came in in the 2nd up 6, left up 2. Enters up 5 in the third, leaves up 11.

[Hal14]

When is Brad or the assists coaches going to step in a help coach Joe with making adjustments? Joe is good at some things but is terrible with creativity and making in game adjustments.

This is kind of a silly question. You're talking about "in game adjustments" but you say when is Brad gonna step in. Like seriously? Brad is the POBO, he watches the games way up high in his suite. You really think he's gonna come down to the bench in the middle of a game and tell Joe to make a substitution? C'mon now.

As for the assistant coaches, yes of course they all have a voice and collaborate along with Joey when it comes to strategy during the game. Joe of course has final say but obviously the assistants have a voice and let their voice be heard during the game. Do you really think all the assistants just sit there silent all game long, or that Joe never asks for their input? C'mon now.

Almost every Celtic coach that watched this game knows what lack of adjustments I'm talking about. The Celtics assists know what I'm referring to. The Celtics owners knew what I'm alluding to. So does Brad.

Huh? How do you know? Did you talk with all of these people? How do you know what they think? Did you have a secret Zoom meeting last night after the game with every celtics player, all the assistants, the owners and Brad?

If not, this seems like an odd thing to say..

Evan Mobley destroyed Luke in game 5 of the Cavs series.

The Celtics won that game.

Also, who did you want Joe to put in the game instead? KP was out. Al played big mins. Who plays when Horford is resting?

Tillman? Kornet is arguably a better guy to have in there to match up with Mobley since Mobley and Kornet are both 7-footers. Tillman gives up like 4 or 5 inches to Mobley so Mobley would have likely had an even easier time scoring on Tillman. And it's not like Mobley is much of a shooting threat.

Plus, it doesn't seem like Joe (in collaboration with the other coaches) have much confidence in Tillman right now in a pressure-packed playoff game, given his offensive limitations (Kornet at least has the size to be a more effective screener and lob target), and finisher out of the dunker's spot, and offensive rebounder) and given the fact that Tillman is still so new to the team (Tillman himself even said to the media recently that he is still learning the system and still isn't fully comfortable out there).

Lots of times, when a guy gets traded to a new team late in the season, he doesn't really start getting comfortable, in a rhythm with his new team until the *following* season. We probably won't start seeing significant benefits of the Tillman trade until next season. Brad also made the trade for additional big man depth down the stretch of the regular season and perhaps a little bit of contributions during the playoffs.

Brad went out and got Tillman for a reason. Just last season Tillman was starting in the playoffs and battling Anthony Davis and giving Davis a hard time. Tillman can challenge Turner for 12-18 minutes a game and impact the game.

Are you implying that Joe should have put Tillman into last night's game for 12-18 minutes? You do realize that Tillman was not in the building last night, right? He was listed as OUT for personal reasons, due to the death of his father.

The second adjustment Joe needs help with is inserting Oshae Brissett instead of Hauser, who has struggles in this playoffs.

When has Oshae Brissett ever proven himself in the playoffs? He's played 5 games this postseason, all in garbage time..that's literally his entire playoff career. You say Hauser struggles in the playoffs so put in a guy who has never performed in the playoffs instead?

Sam Hauser is shooting 41.7% from. 3in the playoffs. He was WAY better than Brissett all season long. And the other day I saw a stat that said Hauser has the best net rating in the league during the 2024 postseason.

[playa-hater]

At what point will couch potato QBs realize they don’t have a clue and that there is a reason coach is on the sidelines and they are yelling at the TV.

I hate that stereotypical argument. So many times us "couch potatoes" have been proven right while the professionals have been proven wrong. There are many gray areas in between the black and white.
I actually feel there are quite a few posters on here who make great points whether they are at home on the couch or not...some may also have been actually coaches at a high level..just saying..

[BK_2020]

Fans' coaching analyses basically boil down to:
1. coach should've played guy 1 or guy 2
2. coach should've called a timeout
3. don't play drop because drop means not defending people
It's so very tiresome.

[bisme37]

I don't think of myself as a Joe homer but I gotta admit I'm legitimately confused about the constant criticism he gets. I wasn't hanging out in the game thread so I don't know what people were saying but it didn't even occur to me that he was screwing anything up last night. I swear you guys would have more fun if you stopped watching the games for the purpose of nitpicking the dude.

Anyway, yeah I'd like to see some Tillman in this series but he wasn't available last night. Aside from that I'm thinking whatever the halftime adjustment on Myles Turner was sure seemed to work. Dude had 300 points in the first half and finished the game with only 23. So by my math he somehow scored negative-277 points after halftime lol.

[redslastlaugh]

joe has make some adjustments. no more pritchard, hauser & kornet on the floor together. that's #1

got to go to brissett and/or tillman for 5-10 minutes each instead of kornet when horford sits and have them play with jt, not jb.

have to insert some type of defensive energy during those minutes. we know they're going to hunt horford. we cant let them hunt kornet too. we will be able to score with those guys on the court as long as it's jt facilitating during those minutes.

Strong agree about no Pritchard +Houser +Kornet. I’d consider changing the sub pattern to get Hauser in the game quickly, first off the bench to, for Jrue or DWhite to let Sam play with JT and the starters. We have to get Sam some shot attempts.

The second half minutes with Luke where Joe went zone were a lot better tho, and Luke ended up +2 so maybe they’ve learned they must go to that zone if Kornets on the floor. But we still need Brisset or Tillman because Al on one day rest, after 40 minutes, might be dead legged tomorrow night. We have to lessen Als minutes somehow.

[31to6]

At what point will couch potato QBs realize they don’t have a clue and that there is a reason coach is on the sidelines and they are yelling at the TV.

I hate that stereotypical argument. So many times us "couch potatoes" have been proven right while the professionals have been proven wrong. There are many gray areas in between the black and white.
I actually feel there are quite a few posters on here who make great points whether they are at home on the couch or not...some may also have been actually coaches at a high level..just saying..

you may hate it, but it's right in many cases, including this one, in which OP assumes that the coaching staff doesn't work collaboratively (is there any evidence that Lee and Cassell *don't* provide Mazzulla with lots of input?), and that the POBO should come down to the sideline to help make in-game adjustments.

Celtics are 9-2 in the playoffs after finishing 7 games ahead of the field in the regular season. I'm sorry they're not "winning by 10-15 minutes" to use the OP's words. And hey, I've coached high school basketball and we did pretty alright, and I've called a few things right on this forum over the years -- along with plenty of wrong ones -- and I'm okay with the fact that no one is counting and no one cares. I'm here to talk about the team rather than stoke my ego or expect perfection.

[brackdan70]

At what point will couch potato QBs realize they don’t have a clue and that there is a reason coach is on the sidelines and they are yelling at the TV.

I hate that stereotypical argument. So many times us "couch potatoes" have been proven right while the professionals have been proven wrong. There are many gray areas in between the black and white.
I actually feel there are quite a few posters on here who make great points whether they are at home on the couch or not...some may also have been actually coaches at a high level..just saying..

There are some amazing knowledgeable posters here no doubt. I don’t think this post fell into that category, hence my comment.

Speaking of high level coaching, I am going to be coaching my daughters 5 grade team next year and you can rest assured there will be no drop coverage.

[Fencer reregistered]

Fans' coaching analyses basically boil down to:
1. coach should've played guy 1 or guy 2
2. coach should've called a timeout
3. don't play drop because drop means not defending people
It's so very tiresome.

4. Do blitz PnRs even though it does mean not defending people.