Anthony Black - Arkansas

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"Fultz, Cole, and even Gary Harris started over Anthony Black because of experience."

These guys aren't starters on any NBA team... it is not like Black was a backup to FVV. Literally none of those guys will be starters next season. Orlando is also a team that will clearly sign a guard to start over Black because again he isn't a starting level talent in the NBA.

Both things can be true.

Black isnt better now than backup guys that have been in the league 6+ seasons.

Black can be better than all of those aforementioned players in 1-2 more seasons.

Why are people incapable of waiting 1 season of real playing time to come to these proclamations on players they either barely watched or didn't watch at all and just looked at basketball reference for 2 minutes?

[JMAC3]

"Fultz, Cole, and even Gary Harris started over Anthony Black because of experience."

These guys aren't starters on any NBA team... it is not like Black was a backup to FVV. Literally none of those guys will be starters next season. Orlando is also a team that will clearly sign a guard to start over Black because again he isn't a starting level talent in the NBA.

Both things can be true.

Black isnt better now than backup guys that have been in the league 6+ seasons.

Black can be better than all of those aforementioned players in 1-2 more seasons.

Why are people incapable of waiting 1 season of real playing time to come to these proclamations on players they either barely watched or didn't watch at all and just looked at basketball reference for 2 minutes?

The Magic are going to overpay Klay or trade for an upgrade who is even better than Fultz, Cole and Gary... so if Black couldn't beat those guys out for mins, usage etc he is unlikely to beat out an even better more highly paid option this upcoming year.

Nobody is saying Black can't improve at all. However, based on what we have seen I expect at least half of the top 10 guys to be more impactful this year than Black was a rookie.

At worst someone like Castle can probably stand in the corner and reluctantly shoot the ball while playing stellar defense. If he gives you any offense he is immediately better... just like Cason Wallace. I would expect at least 25 NBA teams would take Cason over Black moving foward.

[HadAnEffectHere]

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Cason Wallace shot 42% from three.

Steph Castle shot 26% on unguarded threes in college and 31% from three in high school.

Is this a joke.

Castle is also much slower laterally than Wallace and is a much worse help defender (Castle's help defense numbers are extremely bad).

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"Fultz, Cole, and even Gary Harris started over Anthony Black because of experience."

These guys aren't starters on any NBA team... it is not like Black was a backup to FVV. Literally none of those guys will be starters next season. Orlando is also a team that will clearly sign a guard to start over Black because again he isn't a starting level talent in the NBA.

Both things can be true.

Black isnt better now than backup guys that have been in the league 6+ seasons.

Black can be better than all of those aforementioned players in 1-2 more seasons.

Why are people incapable of waiting 1 season of real playing time to come to these proclamations on players they either barely watched or didn't watch at all and just looked at basketball reference for 2 minutes?

The Magic are going to overpay Klay or trade for an upgrade who is even better than Fultz, Cole and Gary... so if Black couldn't beat those guys out for mins, usage etc he is unlikely to beat out an even better more highly paid option this upcoming year.

Nobody is saying Black can't improve at all. However, based on what we have seen I expect at least half of the top 10 guys to be more impactful this year than Black was a rookie.

At worst someone like Castle can probably stand in the corner and reluctantly shoot the ball while playing stellar defense. If he gives you any offense he is immediately better... just like Cason Wallace. I would expect at least 25 NBA teams would take Cason over Black moving foward.

As a Magic fan, hopefully they don't. Klay is terrible on defense now compared to a guy like Black. Again, Gary and Fultz shouldnt be on the roster so he's not really earning a spot over them. Maybe he does over someone else they sign. Orlando should run him considering he was a lotto pick and provides more on the court than just standing in a corner hitting an occasional 3.

We will see where he lands among this crop of rookies next season. There are a lot of guys that people have listed with similar areas of improvement in the first round.

I was high on Cason Wallace as Orlando's pick last draft. But again, Anthony Black can guard 3 positions and Wallace can guard maybe 2. They are just different players altogether.

[JMAC3]

Both things can be true.

Black isnt better now than backup guys that have been in the league 6+ seasons.

Black can be better than all of those aforementioned players in 1-2 more seasons.

Why are people incapable of waiting 1 season of real playing time to come to these proclamations on players they either barely watched or didn't watch at all and just looked at basketball reference for 2 minutes?

The Magic are going to overpay Klay or trade for an upgrade who is even better than Fultz, Cole and Gary... so if Black couldn't beat those guys out for mins, usage etc he is unlikely to beat out an even better more highly paid option this upcoming year.

Nobody is saying Black can't improve at all. However, based on what we have seen I expect at least half of the top 10 guys to be more impactful this year than Black was a rookie.

At worst someone like Castle can probably stand in the corner and reluctantly shoot the ball while playing stellar defense. If he gives you any offense he is immediately better... just like Cason Wallace. I would expect at least 25 NBA teams would take Cason over Black moving foward.

As a Magic fan, hopefully they don't. Klay is terrible on defense now compared to a guy like Black. Again, Gary and Fultz shouldnt be on the roster so he's not really earning a spot over them. Maybe he does over someone else they sign. Orlando should run him considering he was a lotto pick and provides more on the court than just standing in a corner hitting an occasional 3.

We will see where he lands among this crop of rookies next season. There are a lot of guys that people have listed with similar areas of improvement in the first round.

I was high on Cason Wallace as Orlando's pick last draft. But again, Anthony Black can guard 3 positions and Wallace can guard maybe 2. They are just different players altogether.

So you think Black, Suggs, Franz, Paolo and WCJ is the answer. Black should be the lead ball handler and that will unlock the offense?

I just don't see anyway Black is the answer for a team desperate for scoring, playmaking and shooting. He basically is the anti-fit.

[Dat2U]

Anthony Black = Delon Wright. He'll be a solid rotation level player for years. Just not enough creation skills to really be a starting PG.

[basketballRob]

Anthony Black = Delon Wright. He'll be a solid rotation level player for years. Just not enough creation skills to really be a starting PG.

I'm impressed that you can tell what a player will be in his career based off 1 season where he was a teenager and played a role on a winning team.

[FarBeyondDriven]

"Fultz, Cole, and even Gary Harris started over Anthony Black because of experience."

These guys aren't starters on any NBA team... it is not like Black was a backup to FVV. Literally none of those guys will be starters next season. Orlando is also a team that will clearly sign a guard to start over Black because again he isn't a starting level talent in the NBA.

Both things can be true.

Black isnt better now than backup guys that have been in the league 6+ seasons.

Black can be better than all of those aforementioned players in 1-2 more seasons.

Why are people incapable of waiting 1 season of real playing time to come to these proclamations on players they either barely watched or didn't watch at all and just looked at basketball reference for 2 minutes?

The Magic are going to overpay Klay or trade for an upgrade who is even better than Fultz, Cole and Gary... so if Black couldn't beat those guys out for mins, usage etc he is unlikely to beat out an even better more highly paid option this upcoming year.

Nobody is saying Black can't improve at all. However, based on what we have seen I expect at least half of the top 10 guys to be more impactful this year than Black was a rookie.

At worst someone like Castle can probably stand in the corner and reluctantly shoot the ball while playing stellar defense. If he gives you any offense he is immediately better... just like Cason Wallace. I would expect at least 25 NBA teams would take Cason over Black moving foward.

Harris and Fultz are UFAs and likely gone so minutes would open up for Black and Howard which is why I believe the Magic drafted them both in the first place. But I don't think the Magic can possibly be happy with either and with them wanting to compete I don't envision them starting either or even wanting to rely on them to play major minutes.

I'm not sure how accurate they are but rumors are the Magic will be going after Monk or Klay. I'm resigned to losing Monk and tbh the Magic would be an ideal landing spot. He'd actually start and while neither him nor Suggs are natural point guards it doesn't matter in ORL with how they run the offense through Banchero and Wagner. Monk would provide exactly what they need. Whether it's Monk or Klay, if that happens I imagine one of Black and Howard might be moved.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

A few things on this thread...

Fultz, Cole, and even Gary Harris started over Anthony Black because of experience.

Fultz is NOT a better shooter than Black OR a better defender. Fultz % doesn't matter because he doesn't take shots outside of 10-15 feet. Fultz and Gary should be gone for next season.

Black started for a stretch of 28 games straight and they won 17 of those games, which included a 9 game win streak against teams like Boston, Denver, and Indiana. People said the same **** about Jalen Suggs after year 1. A player that just made second team all defense and increased his shooting numbers significantly by year 3.

It's kinda weird to claim a bunch of guys in this draft will be significantly better than Black. He barely played and when he did he looked good even when deferring as a 4th/5th option on offense and providing VERY good defense on opposing guards.

Rookie season comparison
Jalen Suggs 24.9 assist%, Black is at 10.6%
Suggs 15.5 ppg per 36, Black at 9.8
Suggs 5.4 3pt per 36, 2.9 3pta per 36

Suggs couldn't shoot but he at least was a threat on offense and his playmaking was significantly better.

Context matters though

Black had a 12,7 usage rate on 16.9 minutes and that was only because Fultz/Harris were hurt so he got run. Orlando was never going to give Back big minutes as they pushed for a playoff spot. The only reason he didn't stay in G league was because they already had Jett parked there.

Suggs was given 27.2 usage rate on 27.8 minutes because Orlando was a bottom 5 team and had the benefit to see what they had while tanking to a #1 pick for Paolo!!

Magic fans were furious that Fultz continued to see minutes post ASB because the dude is as broken of a player as there can be but Mosley trusted him. Not to mention Suggs didn't have a point forward on the roster who took a lot of possessions away from him. The Black pick was never going to make sense or look good this year but he definitely can carve a solid role out.

[JMAC3]

A few things on this thread...

Fultz, Cole, and even Gary Harris started over Anthony Black because of experience.

Fultz is NOT a better shooter than Black OR a better defender. Fultz % doesn't matter because he doesn't take shots outside of 10-15 feet. Fultz and Gary should be gone for next season.

Black started for a stretch of 28 games straight and they won 17 of those games, which included a 9 game win streak against teams like Boston, Denver, and Indiana. People said the same **** about Jalen Suggs after year 1. A player that just made second team all defense and increased his shooting numbers significantly by year 3.

It's kinda weird to claim a bunch of guys in this draft will be significantly better than Black. He barely played and when he did he looked good even when deferring as a 4th/5th option on offense and providing VERY good defense on opposing guards.

Rookie season comparison
Jalen Suggs 24.9 assist%, Black is at 10.6%
Suggs 15.5 ppg per 36, Black at 9.8
Suggs 5.4 3pt per 36, 2.9 3pta per 36

Suggs couldn't shoot but he at least was a threat on offense and his playmaking was significantly better.

Context matters though

Black had a 12,7 usage rate on 16.9 minutes and that was only because Fultz/Harris were hurt so he got run. Orlando was never going to give Back big minutes as they pushed for a playoff spot. The only reason he didn't stay in G league was because they already had Jett parked there.

Suggs was given 27.2 usage rate on 27.8 minutes because Orlando was a bottom 5 team and had the benefit to see what they had while tanking to a #1 pick for Paolo!!

Magic fans were furious that Fultz continued to see minutes post ASB because the dude is as broken of a player as there can be but Mosley trusted him. Not to mention Suggs didn't have a point forward on the roster who took a lot of possessions away from him. The Black pick was never going to make sense or look good this year but he definitely can carve a solid role out.

That is all fine and dandy, but they clearly need someone that can help with scoring, playmaking.. and they didn't trust him at all. I dont really care if they think they were contenders, they probably think the same this year. So do we give Black another year of excuses of the Magic signed Klay because they want to win so we have to wait on judging Black again?

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Rookie season comparison
Jalen Suggs 24.9 assist%, Black is at 10.6%
Suggs 15.5 ppg per 36, Black at 9.8
Suggs 5.4 3pt per 36, 2.9 3pta per 36

Suggs couldn't shoot but he at least was a threat on offense and his playmaking was significantly better.

Context matters though

Black had a 12,7 usage rate on 16.9 minutes and that was only because Fultz/Harris were hurt so he got run. Orlando was never going to give Back big minutes as they pushed for a playoff spot. The only reason he didn't stay in G league was because they already had Jett parked there.

Suggs was given 27.2 usage rate on 27.8 minutes because Orlando was a bottom 5 team and had the benefit to see what they had while tanking to a #1 pick for Paolo!!

Magic fans were furious that Fultz continued to see minutes post ASB because the dude is as broken of a player as there can be but Mosley trusted him. Not to mention Suggs didn't have a point forward on the roster who took a lot of possessions away from him. The Black pick was never going to make sense or look good this year but he definitely can carve a solid role out.

That is all fine and dandy, but they clearly need someone that can help with scoring, playmaking.. and they didn't trust him at all. I dont really care if they think they were contenders, they probably think the same this year. So do we give Black another year of excuses of the Magic signed Klay because they want to win so we have to wait on judging Black again?

Why are they “excuses” though?

Guy didn’t play consistent basketball this year. Lmao. He was buried behind 2-3 other guys that have been in the league far longer.

Rookies are usually garbage anyway if you are paying attention to the vast majority of what they are doing in year 1. Sure, there are exceptions like Luka Doncic, but that’s why they are exceptions and not the rule.

This is why context matters when people claim **** like “draft BPA regardless of position”. Like… not really… every team has a different situation and minute distribution. Players develop differently. Not everything is cut and dry like claiming this player is a bust etc. because you looked at basketball reference for 3 seconds on a player that just turned 20.

You are a Charlotte fan and I’m a big fan of Mark Williams. However, should I start making the claim he’s an injury riddled loser bust because he’s played 50 games in two seasons? No, because I’m not an idiot and realize there is larger context to a young player on a rookie contract. See how that works?

[JMAC3]

Context matters though

Black had a 12,7 usage rate on 16.9 minutes and that was only because Fultz/Harris were hurt so he got run. Orlando was never going to give Back big minutes as they pushed for a playoff spot. The only reason he didn't stay in G league was because they already had Jett parked there.

Suggs was given 27.2 usage rate on 27.8 minutes because Orlando was a bottom 5 team and had the benefit to see what they had while tanking to a #1 pick for Paolo!!

Magic fans were furious that Fultz continued to see minutes post ASB because the dude is as broken of a player as there can be but Mosley trusted him. Not to mention Suggs didn't have a point forward on the roster who took a lot of possessions away from him. The Black pick was never going to make sense or look good this year but he definitely can carve a solid role out.

That is all fine and dandy, but they clearly need someone that can help with scoring, playmaking.. and they didn't trust him at all. I dont really care if they think they were contenders, they probably think the same this year. So do we give Black another year of excuses of the Magic signed Klay because they want to win so we have to wait on judging Black again?

Why are they “excuses” though?

Guy didn’t play consistent basketball this year. Lmao. He was buried behind 2-3 other guys that have been in the league far longer.

Rookies are usually garbage anyway if you are paying attention to the vast majority of what they are doing in year 1. Sure, there are exceptions like Luka Doncic, but that’s why they are exceptions and not the rule.

This is why context matters when people claim **** like “draft BPA regardless of position”. Like… not really… every team has a different situation and minute distribution. Players develop differently. Not everything is cut and dry like claiming this player is a bust etc. because you looked at basketball reference for 3 seconds on a player that just turned 20.

You are a Charlotte fan and I’m a big fan of Mark Williams. However, should I start making the claim he’s an injury riddled loser bust because he’s played 50 games in two seasons? No, because I’m not an idiot and realize there is larger context to a young player on a rookie contract. See how that works?

Again Cason Wallace is playing on the Thunder, Dereck Lively is playing in the WCF.
Paolo played last year for the Magic just fine, am I to believe that if Paolo was added to a good team like the Celtics he would be relegated to Anthony Black level of playing time and production? Keegan Murray has played a ton of the Kings the past two years for a team that won 47 games on average the past two years... same as Magic.

Remember when James Wiseman couldn't play for the Warriors and it was just because he was a rookie and they were good... yeah turns out he wasn't playing for a reason. maybe Black figures it out, but I am still standing on he wasn't a top 15 rookie this year.

Rookie Ranks
Mins played - 20th
Pts scored - 23rd
rebs - 21st
assists - 15th
3pt att- 24th
steals- 16th
blocks - 16th

There is no team giving up a top 5 pick in this draft for a guy we saw underperform his draft slot last year. Probably no team is giving up a top 10 pick for this type of prospect production.

[CptCrunch]

Why are we arguing about Black one year down the line. Black will be a top tier PG in the league. All the haters can wait.

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That is all fine and dandy, but they clearly need someone that can help with scoring, playmaking.. and they didn't trust him at all. I dont really care if they think they were contenders, they probably think the same this year. So do we give Black another year of excuses of the Magic signed Klay because they want to win so we have to wait on judging Black again?

Why are they “excuses” though?

Guy didn’t play consistent basketball this year. Lmao. He was buried behind 2-3 other guys that have been in the league far longer.

Rookies are usually garbage anyway if you are paying attention to the vast majority of what they are doing in year 1. Sure, there are exceptions like Luka Doncic, but that’s why they are exceptions and not the rule.

This is why context matters when people claim **** like “draft BPA regardless of position”. Like… not really… every team has a different situation and minute distribution. Players develop differently. Not everything is cut and dry like claiming this player is a bust etc. because you looked at basketball reference for 3 seconds on a player that just turned 20.

You are a Charlotte fan and I’m a big fan of Mark Williams. However, should I start making the claim he’s an injury riddled loser bust because he’s played 50 games in two seasons? No, because I’m not an idiot and realize there is larger context to a young player on a rookie contract. See how that works?

Again Cason Wallace is playing on the Thunder, Dereck Lively is playing in the WCF.
Paolo played last year for the Magic just fine, am I to believe that if Paolo was added to a good team like the Celtics he would be relegated to Anthony Black level of playing time and production? Keegan Murray has played a ton of the Kings the past two years for a team that won 47 games on average the past two years... same as Magic.

Remember when James Wiseman couldn't play for the Warriors and it was just because he was a rookie and they were good... yeah turns out he wasn't playing for a reason. maybe Black figures it out, but I am still standing on he wasn't a top 15 rookie this year.

Rookie Ranks
Mins played - 20th
Pts scored - 23rd
rebs - 21st
assists - 15th
3pt att- 24th
steals- 16th
blocks - 16th

There is no team giving up a top 5 pick in this draft for a guy we saw underperform his draft slot last year. Probably no team is giving up a top 10 pick for this type of prospect production.

I’m not seeing anyone claim anything otherwise.

Nobody is saying team X wouldn’t give up pick Y for Anthony Black.

It’s just a stupid assessment to say that X amount of players are better than Black based on college data and literally nothing else. Draft picks are always worth more before they become players. Black’s production is based on a number of factors that include context to his situation.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

That is all fine and dandy, but they clearly need someone that can help with scoring, playmaking.. and they didn't trust him at all. I dont really care if they think they were contenders, they probably think the same this year. So do we give Black another year of excuses of the Magic signed Klay because they want to win so we have to wait on judging Black again?

Why are they “excuses” though?

Guy didn’t play consistent basketball this year. Lmao. He was buried behind 2-3 other guys that have been in the league far longer.

Rookies are usually garbage anyway if you are paying attention to the vast majority of what they are doing in year 1. Sure, there are exceptions like Luka Doncic, but that’s why they are exceptions and not the rule.

This is why context matters when people claim **** like “draft BPA regardless of position”. Like… not really… every team has a different situation and minute distribution. Players develop differently. Not everything is cut and dry like claiming this player is a bust etc. because you looked at basketball reference for 3 seconds on a player that just turned 20.

You are a Charlotte fan and I’m a big fan of Mark Williams. However, should I start making the claim he’s an injury riddled loser bust because he’s played 50 games in two seasons? No, because I’m not an idiot and realize there is larger context to a young player on a rookie contract. See how that works?

Again Cason Wallace is playing on the Thunder, Dereck Lively is playing in the WCF.
Paolo played last year for the Magic just fine, am I to believe that if Paolo was added to a good team like the Celtics he would be relegated to Anthony Black level of playing time and production? Keegan Murray has played a ton of the Kings the past two years for a team that won 47 games on average the past two years... same as Magic.

Remember when James Wiseman couldn't play for the Warriors and it was just because he was a rookie and they were good... yeah turns out he wasn't playing for a reason. maybe Black figures it out, but I am still standing on he wasn't a top 15 rookie this year.

Rookie Ranks
Mins played - 20th
Pts scored - 23rd
rebs - 21st
assists - 15th
3pt att- 24th
steals- 16th
blocks - 16th

There is no team giving up a top 5 pick in this draft for a guy we saw underperform his draft slot last year. Probably no team is giving up a top 10 pick for this type of prospect production.

Orlando had these guards ahead of Black: Fultz, Cole, Suggs and Harris.. how is he getting minutes consistently behind 4 dudes? If it was me Fultz would've been gone before the start of this season because IMO Black is already a better player. Unfortunately, our FO valued whatever Fultz brought in the locker room and the feel-good story.

Cason walked into a perfect spot for him and only had to deal with Isaiah Joe rofl

10000% agree he wasn't a top 15 rookie and that's fine with me, he was handed just about the worst situation ever for a Guard. That all opens up a bit with Fultz/Gary FA's and hopefully Cole gone this summer

[HadAnEffectHere]

That is all fine and dandy, but they clearly need someone that can help with scoring, playmaking.. and they didn't trust him at all. I dont really care if they think they were contenders, they probably think the same this year. So do we give Black another year of excuses of the Magic signed Klay because they want to win so we have to wait on judging Black again?

Why are they “excuses” though?

Guy didn’t play consistent basketball this year. Lmao. He was buried behind 2-3 other guys that have been in the league far longer.

Rookies are usually garbage anyway if you are paying attention to the vast majority of what they are doing in year 1. Sure, there are exceptions like Luka Doncic, but that’s why they are exceptions and not the rule.

This is why context matters when people claim **** like “draft BPA regardless of position”. Like… not really… every team has a different situation and minute distribution. Players develop differently. Not everything is cut and dry like claiming this player is a bust etc. because you looked at basketball reference for 3 seconds on a player that just turned 20.

You are a Charlotte fan and I’m a big fan of Mark Williams. However, should I start making the claim he’s an injury riddled loser bust because he’s played 50 games in two seasons? No, because I’m not an idiot and realize there is larger context to a young player on a rookie contract. See how that works?

Again Cason Wallace is playing on the Thunder, Dereck Lively is playing in the WCF.
Paolo played last year for the Magic just fine, am I to believe that if Paolo was added to a good team like the Celtics he would be relegated to Anthony Black level of playing time and production? Keegan Murray has played a ton of the Kings the past two years for a team that won 47 games on average the past two years... same as Magic.

Remember when James Wiseman couldn't play for the Warriors and it was just because he was a rookie and they were good... yeah turns out he wasn't playing for a reason. maybe Black figures it out, but I am still standing on he wasn't a top 15 rookie this year.

Rookie Ranks
Mins played - 20th
Pts scored - 23rd
rebs - 21st
assists - 15th
3pt att- 24th
steals- 16th
blocks - 16th

There is no team giving up a top 5 pick in this draft for a guy we saw underperform his draft slot last year. Probably no team is giving up a top 10 pick for this type of prospect production.

Black will probably bust but this argument comes across like you're an alien who has just started following the sport.

1. Rookies on bad teams get fed shots and minutes because that is helpful for rookie development and evaluation and development and evaluation is the most important thing on a bad team.

2. Rookies on good teams only play if they can defend and if they can either shoot or play next to four guys who do shoot.

Cason Wallace can shoot really well and defend. Lively is a center and doesn't need to shoot and can defend really well.

Black is a perimeter player on a good team who can't shoot and thus he doesn't have much of a role.

[JMAC3]

Orlando had these guards ahead of Black: Fultz, Cole, Suggs and Harris.. how is he getting minutes consistently behind 4 dudes? If it was me Fultz would've been gone before the start of this season because IMO Black is already a better player. Unfortunately, our FO valued whatever Fultz brought in the locker room and the feel-good story.

Cason walked into a perfect spot for him and only had to deal with Isaiah Joe rofl

10000% agree he wasn't a top 15 rookie and that's fine with me, he was handed just about the worst situation ever for a Guard. That all opens up a bit with Fultz/Gary FA's and hopefully Cole gone this summer

How is he getting minutes behind 3 bad players?
Gary Harris averaged 4ppg in the playoffs in 26 mins. Someone back up the brinks truck!!!
Fultz 6.4 ppg in the playoffs, Magic guards on the next level!!!
Cole Antony 5.1 ppg in playoffs on 31% from field.. Sorry AB you aren't better than that!!!

Yeah seems like the odds were just too stacked against him lol

You guys are acting like he was playing behind All-NBA teams. He couldn't beat out fringe rotation players.

[Cammo101]

Next year will give a much better indication of where Black is. Most suspected he'd be buried on the bench in year one, but with Fultz and Harris likely headed out, he should at least have a defined role next season.

[Rustyman]

Trade him to the Spurs for 2 seconds. We would like to take a flyer on Black.

[RookieStar]

Trade him to the Spurs for 2 seconds. We would like to take a flyer on Black.

Well if that isnt a green font...

Trade Wemby to the Magic for 3 Frps. We can always use a quality C.