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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1241 » by thebuzzardman » Wed May 22, 2024 11:57 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Trade Sims and some picks for Tari Eason and get budget OG/Mikal and tell the two overpriced 3&D role players to kick bricks


How about all 3 on our roster instead? Our defense would be down right sexual. :nod:


I'm not sure how many picks (if they'd take any at all) that Houston would need/want for Eason.

If I were the Knicks I'd offer 2. Then use 4 to get Bridges.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1242 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu May 23, 2024 12:14 am

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aggo wrote:
spree8 wrote:

Why not trade for Mikal (or someone else at the 2) if he/they were available tho?

What if we get another Randle injury like we did the past 2 years? We don’t have time to waste like that. Plus factor in the cap restraints that we’re going to be experiencing soon with all the extensions and re-signings.

I’m not good with just running it back. Not after injuries killed us twice already in the PO.


because if were gonna trade 6frps


I bet you we can get Zion

not these picks, they're mostly doodoo picks


Ah yes, the "let's argue our own assets are worthless so we can overpay for a player we really like and feel better about it" argument.

I can see why you don't want to argue that Mikal is worth a lot though. Much easier to just argue that the Knicks really don't have much assets so might as well just get this guy and be happy.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1243 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu May 23, 2024 12:17 am

Yea, it seriously doesn't give me much confidence when one group of people is saying "Yo...Mikal's not worth that star haul!" and then another guy's response is "Well, you know what?! Our picks suck too! Let's just trade crappy assets for crappy assets!" Also, if that haul was really that trash, you think the Nets would take it?
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1244 » by NoLayupRule » Thu May 23, 2024 1:42 am

aggo wrote:
Fury wrote:
aggo wrote:you dont bid against yourself.


remember, the nets dont have to trade mikal

at some point offering them X number of picks becomes so expensive that we are better off taking that offer for mikal and going elsewhere for a bigger improvement.


That’s why we “overpay”

If we really want him, of course


so let me get this straight


we're ready to trade off 6 frps


and the best idea is

Mikal Bridges?

thats madness

if were sending that many picks we need more than a 3rd option in return

bridges isnt putting us into the title conversation

you give those kinds of assets for all nba players
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1245 » by Meat » Thu May 23, 2024 2:55 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:
Meat wrote:
aggo wrote:
because if were gonna trade 6frps


I bet you we can get Zion

not these picks, they're mostly doodoo picks


Ah yes, the "let's argue our own assets are worthless so we can overpay for a player we really like and feel better about it" argument.

I can see why you don't want to argue that Mikal is worth a lot though. Much easier to just argue that the Knicks really don't have much assets so might as well just get this guy and be happy.

These are objectively **** picks, some with some insane provisions that won’t ever turn into firsts.

The Detroit picks is 1-18 protected
The Washington is 1-12

These are the 2 lowest win teams in the last few years, there lotto teams
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1246 » by WargamesX » Thu May 23, 2024 3:41 am

How would you all feel if the Knicks signed CP3 for the tax payer MLE?

Like were a destination right? Are we that much of a destination we could get CP3 as a bench piece?
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1247 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu May 23, 2024 4:14 am

DeMar DeRozan for Bojan and a couple of picks? DD has said publicly that he’d like to be here.

I don’t know who this Presti guy is. He doesn’t always make sense but I like this one.

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Post#1248 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu May 23, 2024 4:15 am

CLE are in the playoffs. What were those picks with for DM? People really don't think much at all before spewing nonsense.
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Post#1249 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu May 23, 2024 4:48 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:CLE are in the playoffs. What were those picks with for DM? People really don't think much at all before spewing nonsense.

What are you trying to say? :lol:
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1250 » by Fury » Thu May 23, 2024 10:57 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:CLE are in the playoffs. What were those picks with for DM? People really don't think much at all before spewing nonsense.


Sorry I didn’t spend my entire day thinking of the perfect trade. Cleveland will obviously get back equal star player value for a guy who is leaving.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1251 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu May 23, 2024 11:37 am

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:CLE are in the playoffs. What were those picks with for DM? People really don't think much at all before spewing nonsense.


Sorry I didn’t spend my entire day thinking of the perfect trade. Cleveland will obviously get back equal star player value for a guy who is leaving.


Huh? I wasn't really referring to anyone in particular. People keep saying our picks are not worth anything. It's strange how other teams picks are not worthless when they trade them.

The other narrative that is false is that the Knicks have to trade for a star this summer. They don't. They are prepared to make trades and have value in players and picks like anyone else in the mix. They could also run it back and contend as is. Maybe some smaller trades could happen that will make us deeper and that's a wrap.

It's crazy how solid this FO has been at building a winning team out of thin air. We went from 21 wins to 50 in a few years without gutting the team for a superstar or tanking. Let that sink in people. We are in great shape moving forward.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1252 » by Fat Kat » Thu May 23, 2024 12:33 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:DeMar DeRozan for Bojan and a couple of picks? DD has said publicly that he’d like to be here.

I don’t know who this Presti guy is. He doesn’t always make sense but I like this one.

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Demar makes too much money and isn’t a fit in the starting lineup. He’d create all types of spacing issues. If he was cheaper, he’d be a great 6th man.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1253 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu May 23, 2024 12:50 pm

Fat Kat wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:DeMar DeRozan for Bojan and a couple of picks? DD has said publicly that he’d like to be here.

I don’t know who this Presti guy is. He doesn’t always make sense but I like this one.

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Demar makes too much money and isn’t a fit in the starting lineup. He’d create all types of spacing issues. If he was cheaper, he’d be a great 6th man.


Brunson/Deuce
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OG/Hart
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Thibs 9 man rotation would be pretty deep.
3pt shooting off the bench would be down to Deuce. Defense wouldn't suffer at all. Deuce/Hart/Mitch is a crazy defensive bench with DD to handle the majority of scoring. What would the cap look like though?
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1254 » by Richard4444 » Thu May 23, 2024 2:07 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:
Ray Williams wrote:
aggo wrote:
so let me get this straight


we're ready to trade off 6 frps


and the best idea is

Mikal Bridges?

Which one of those picks will be any good? All of ours should be in the twenties and all the other teams are protected, and our rotation is pretty much set, what are those draft picks going to do besides take up cap room?


That’s poor reasoning. We are very good with late picks. We’ve made good trades with late picks. One of them became Josh Hart. We’ve taken one of those late picks, IQ, and gotten OG with him. We replaced him with McBride, who is on an awesome contract and might be the next guy moved.

This doesn’t mean you just hoard them. The Knicks have often traded down, traded out, etc. But it does mean that you can’t trade them all for effin Mikal and then say “meh, late picks mean nothing” so let’s just trade them for Mikal.


Now the situation has changed. We can not properly develop later picks anymore. I suppose we will build teams to compete and Thibs will not give playing time for struggling rookies.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1255 » by GONYK » Thu May 23, 2024 2:58 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Ray Williams wrote:Which one of those picks will be any good? All of ours should be in the twenties and all the other teams are protected, and our rotation is pretty much set, what are those draft picks going to do besides take up cap room?


That’s poor reasoning. We are very good with late picks. We’ve made good trades with late picks. One of them became Josh Hart. We’ve taken one of those late picks, IQ, and gotten OG with him. We replaced him with McBride, who is on an awesome contract and might be the next guy moved.

This doesn’t mean you just hoard them. The Knicks have often traded down, traded out, etc. But it does mean that you can’t trade them all for effin Mikal and then say “meh, late picks mean nothing” so let’s just trade them for Mikal.


Now the situation has changed. We can not properly develop later picks anymore. I suppose we will build teams to compete and Thibs will not give playing time for struggling rookies.


We were always building teams to compete since Leon took over.

We still developed players in that environment
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1256 » by sol537 » Thu May 23, 2024 3:04 pm

You offer up Mitch, McBride, Diakete, and a 1st rounder for Mikal.

If that doesn't work, you offer Mitch, McBride, Bogs, and multiple picks for Spida... but he's gotta demand NYK first.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1257 » by Richard4444 » Thu May 23, 2024 3:06 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Chislic wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Trade Sims and some picks for Tari Eason and get budget OG/Mikal and tell the two overpriced 3&D role players to kick bricks


How about all 3 on our roster instead? Our defense would be down right sexual. :nod:


I'm not sure how many picks (if they'd take any at all) that Houston would need/want for Eason.

If I were the Knicks I'd offer 2. Then use 4 to get Bridges.


Why would Houston trade Eason for picks? They might trade him to consolidate into a star. But it does not make sense to give up on a solid young player to try their luck again in a future draft.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1258 » by Jeffrey » Thu May 23, 2024 3:07 pm

WargamesX wrote:How would you all feel if the Knicks signed CP3 for the tax payer MLE?

Like were a destination right? Are we that much of a destination we could get CP3 as a bench piece?


I don't mind a veteran PG and especially one that can still play defense and be a great floor general. We're talking about 10-15 minutes where we need a level headed player to not be a net negative.

Would you rather do Kyle Lowry for a cheaper price and save that MLE for someone a little bit younger that comes off the bench?
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1259 » by Richard4444 » Thu May 23, 2024 3:11 pm

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Richard4444 wrote:
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That’s poor reasoning. We are very good with late picks. We’ve made good trades with late picks. One of them became Josh Hart. We’ve taken one of those late picks, IQ, and gotten OG with him. We replaced him with McBride, who is on an awesome contract and might be the next guy moved.

This doesn’t mean you just hoard them. The Knicks have often traded down, traded out, etc. But it does mean that you can’t trade them all for effin Mikal and then say “meh, late picks mean nothing” so let’s just trade them for Mikal.


Now the situation has changed. We can not properly develop later picks anymore. I suppose we will build teams to compete and Thibs will not give playing time for struggling rookies.


We were always building teams to compete since Leon took over.

We still developed players in that environment


But our 11-15th players were live contracts to be traded.

We may target more playoff-ready vets to complete our roster next season.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1260 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu May 23, 2024 3:20 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
Now the situation has changed. We can not properly develop later picks anymore. I suppose we will build teams to compete and Thibs will not give playing time for struggling rookies.


We were always building teams to compete since Leon took over.

We still developed players in that environment


But our 11-15th players were live contracts to be traded.

We may target more playoff-ready vets to complete our roster next season.


Deuce was an 11-15th man at one point. He earned his way into the rotation in the meantime. I get your point but, players can emerge from those shadows before they get traded if we nail a late pick or two.
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