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Post#1761 » by DOT » Tue May 21, 2024 6:02 pm

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Funny thing about the last panel, is I immediately wondered if this is when Asa will find out that she can grow her arm back.

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I thought she does know, she's just too grossed out to drink blood to actually do it

But also, she can't now because she can't reveal she's contracted with Yoru or she dies (I think), so even if she found out, she'd still have to go armless.
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Re: OT The Nerdy stuff Thread 

Post#1762 » by j4remi » Tue May 21, 2024 7:13 pm

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Funny thing about the last panel, is I immediately wondered if this is when Asa will find out that she can grow her arm back.

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I thought she does know, she's just too grossed out to drink blood to actually do it

But also, she can't now because she can't reveal she's contracted with Yoru or she dies (I think), so even if she found out, she'd still have to go armless.


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I didn't realize she has to keep the contract a secret. Since Nayuta and Fami have talked so openly with Yoru, it didn't cross my mind that she no one else has really acknowledged that Asa has a devil contract.

I assumed she was just being stubborn about the arm initially. But considering she's as clueless as Denji is most of the time, I wouldn't be shocked if nobody bothered to tell her about blood. :lol:
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Re: OT The Nerdy stuff Thread 

Post#1763 » by DOT » Tue May 21, 2024 7:21 pm

j4remi wrote:
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I didn't realize she has to keep the contract a secret. Since Nayuta and Fami have talked so openly with Yoru, it didn't cross my mind that she no one else has really acknowledged that Asa has a devil contract.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Nayuta and Yoru ever talked, Nayuta and Fami had that one conversation where they decide to prevent the apocalypse for the sake of Chinese food and pizza, and Nayuta's first appearance had her turning Yoru/Asa into a dog and wiping their memory of everything, but I don't think the three of them have interacted. I can't remember if it's ever stated Fami knows Asa has Yoru or not either, I've only been reading weekly so it's been a while

I can't remember exactly if Nayuta knew Yoru was in there or not or if she just didn't like Asa, or didn't know what devil exactly she had contracted. Either way, that's the only interaction they have together, cause Asa only shows up with Denji after Nayuta disappears

I should probably re-read to refresh it in my mind. But I am pretty sure Yoru threatens Asa if she ever reveals her existence, so I know that much for sure.
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Re: OT The Nerdy stuff Thread 

Post#1764 » by MrDollarBills » Tue May 21, 2024 7:24 pm

j4remi wrote:Fujimoto's paneling is something else. He's done the close up on talking characters into a pan out to everyone else sitting there awkwardly three times already...and it bodied me every time.

Denji really learning life's lessons.
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Funny thing about the last panel, is I immediately wondered if this is when Asa will find out that she can grow her arm back.


His paneling is really good. He did a great job of conveying not only Denji's internal turmoil, but Asa's absolute disgust with him once he started spilling the beans :lol: her facial expressions were killing me.
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Re: OT The Nerdy stuff Thread 

Post#1765 » by MrDollarBills » Tue May 21, 2024 7:30 pm

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j4remi wrote:
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I didn't realize she has to keep the contract a secret. Since Nayuta and Fami have talked so openly with Yoru, it didn't cross my mind that she no one else has really acknowledged that Asa has a devil contract.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Nayuta and Yoru ever talked, Nayuta and Fami had that one conversation where they decide to prevent the apocalypse for the sake of Chinese food and pizza, and Nayuta's first appearance had her turning Yoru/Asa into a dog and wiping their memory of everything, but I don't think the three of them have interacted. I can't remember if it's ever stated Fami knows Asa has Yoru or not either, I've only been reading weekly so it's been a while

I can't remember exactly if Nayuta knew Yoru was in there or not or if she just didn't like Asa, or didn't know what devil exactly she had contracted. Either way, that's the only interaction they have together, cause Asa only shows up with Denji after Nayuta disappears

I should probably re-read to refresh it in my mind. But I am pretty sure Yoru threatens Asa if she ever reveals her existence, so I know that much for sure.

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From what I recall, Nayuta was suspicious of Asa but she had no idea that Asa is a Fiend or that Yoru was inside of her (pause????). Which is strange to me since she knew who Fami was immediately.

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Post#1766 » by DOT » Tue May 21, 2024 7:32 pm

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j4remi wrote:
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I didn't realize she has to keep the contract a secret. Since Nayuta and Fami have talked so openly with Yoru, it didn't cross my mind that she no one else has really acknowledged that Asa has a devil contract.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Nayuta and Yoru ever talked, Nayuta and Fami had that one conversation where they decide to prevent the apocalypse for the sake of Chinese food and pizza, and Nayuta's first appearance had her turning Yoru/Asa into a dog and wiping their memory of everything, but I don't think the three of them have interacted. I can't remember if it's ever stated Fami knows Asa has Yoru or not either, I've only been reading weekly so it's been a while

I can't remember exactly if Nayuta knew Yoru was in there or not or if she just didn't like Asa, or didn't know what devil exactly she had contracted. Either way, that's the only interaction they have together, cause Asa only shows up with Denji after Nayuta disappears

I should probably re-read to refresh it in my mind. But I am pretty sure Yoru threatens Asa if she ever reveals her existence, so I know that much for sure.

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From what I recall, Nayuta was suspicious of Asa but she had no idea that Asa is a Fiend or that Yoru was inside of her (pause????). Which is strange to me since she knew who Fami was immediately.


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Re: OT The Nerdy stuff Thread 

Post#1767 » by j4remi » Tue May 21, 2024 7:36 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
DOT wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Spoiler:
I didn't realize she has to keep the contract a secret. Since Nayuta and Fami have talked so openly with Yoru, it didn't cross my mind that she no one else has really acknowledged that Asa has a devil contract.
Spoiler:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Nayuta and Yoru ever talked, Nayuta and Fami had that one conversation where they decide to prevent the apocalypse for the sake of Chinese food and pizza, and Nayuta's first appearance had her turning Yoru/Asa into a dog and wiping their memory of everything, but I don't think the three of them have interacted. I can't remember if it's ever stated Fami knows Asa has Yoru or not either, I've only been reading weekly so it's been a while

I can't remember exactly if Nayuta knew Yoru was in there or not or if she just didn't like Asa, or didn't know what devil exactly she had contracted. Either way, that's the only interaction they have together, cause Asa only shows up with Denji after Nayuta disappears

I should probably re-read to refresh it in my mind. But I am pretty sure Yoru threatens Asa if she ever reveals her existence, so I know that much for sure.

Spoiler:
From what I recall, Nayuta was suspicious of Asa but she had no idea that Asa is a Fiend or that Yoru was inside of her (pause????). Which is strange to me since she knew who Fami was immediately.



When Fami and Nayuta talked about Fami's plan, they acknowledged War being in Asa. Fami's original plan was to control War by starving Asa.
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Post#1768 » by MrDollarBills » Thu May 23, 2024 11:45 am

Yeah so I ended getting getting spoiled for Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 261 and my god. This series is vile :lol: Gege Akutami is creative, I'll say that much.

I really don't have much of an opinion until i actually read the official release but based on the reactions on reddit, the discourse surrounding this manga is going to be peak toxicity until it concludes.
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Post#1769 » by DOT » Thu May 23, 2024 4:09 pm

OP 1115:

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I guess this is just fully a post-apocalypse story now. So essentially the current situation is just people living on the peaks of the old world, literally the same as Wano, but on a much bigger scale. I wonder about if the Red Line is natural then, I know it's been a longstanding theory that Luffy will destroy the Red Line to create one unified world which would make more sense if it's artificial and created by Imu, but if it is natural, there's some interesting implications about the Lunarians then, cause they used to live up there, and they'd be much higher up relative to the ground than it is now. Actually, it might be more interesting if it isn't natural, cause that'd mean if the Lunarians lived there, they had to do so after the founding of the WG and the Void Century, meaning they might've been one of the allied kingdoms at first, then possibly betrayed afterwards

Either way, I'm glad we're getting an actual lore dump instead of just a tease. And no break next week, that's always good
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Post#1770 » by WargamesX » Thu May 23, 2024 5:01 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Yeah so I ended getting getting spoiled for Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 261 and my god. This series is vile :lol: Gege Akutami is creative, I'll say that much.

I really don't have much of an opinion until i actually read the official release but based on the reactions on reddit, the discourse surrounding this manga is going to be peak toxicity until it concludes.


I will say this, the closest thing I could remember to all of this was the Death of Superman.... However, JJK took that concept and said what is Doomsday killed Superman at the beginning of the fight and the rest of the league had to stop Doomsday without him. I can't remember a situation where the heroes were so desperate for so long. Even Demon Slayers last arc was more hopeful than this. Its frustrating, I feel like all the fans are justified a certain amount of justified hate right now, but all of this might be epic when its finally animated. There is a legit chance that there is a whole season dedicated to this fight, and it might be must watch TV depending on if Gege can stick the landing.

Also, I am not a academic but there are a lot of thematic similarities between JJK/Demonslayer/MHA and I sometime wonder what does it say about the viewers that the heroes in all three series that the heroes are in these downbad situation where there is no type of victory but a pyrrhic victory.
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Post#1771 » by MrDollarBills » Thu May 23, 2024 7:14 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Yeah so I ended getting getting spoiled for Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 261 and my god. This series is vile :lol: Gege Akutami is creative, I'll say that much.

I really don't have much of an opinion until i actually read the official release but based on the reactions on reddit, the discourse surrounding this manga is going to be peak toxicity until it concludes.


I will say this, the closest thing I could remember to all of this was the Death of Superman.... However, JJK took that concept and said what is Doomsday killed Superman at the beginning of the fight and the rest of the league had to stop Doomsday without him. I can't remember a situation where the heroes were so desperate for so long. Even Demon Slayers last arc was more hopeful than this. Its frustrating, I feel like all the fans are justified a certain amount of justified hate right now, but all of this might be epic when its finally animated. There is a legit chance that there is a whole season dedicated to this fight, and it might be must watch TV depending on if Gege can stick the landing.

Also, I am not a academic but there are a lot of thematic similarities between JJK/Demonslayer/MHA and I sometime wonder what does it say about the viewers that the heroes in all three series that the heroes are in these downbad situation where there is no type of victory but a pyrrhic victory.


That's a really good comparison :o

I've been critical of the story because the hopelessness is honestly draining to read. The better chapters of this story arc in JJK (Inhuman Shinjuku Showdown) to me are when we actually see the protagonist fighting back and gaining ground.

Maybe this will read or be viewed better when the story is finished. But right now, it's brutal and I can understand why fans are dismayed. I love the series but I can only take so much despair, like you said, at least Demon Slayer gave you hope during the final arc because the sun was going to rise one way or another. This? I wouldn't be shocked if the ending was pure depression fuel.
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Re: OT The Nerdy stuff Thread 

Post#1772 » by j4remi » Thu May 23, 2024 10:40 pm

DOT wrote:OP 1115:

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I guess this is just fully a post-apocalypse story now. So essentially the current situation is just people living on the peaks of the old world, literally the same as Wano, but on a much bigger scale. I wonder about if the Red Line is natural then, I know it's been a longstanding theory that Luffy will destroy the Red Line to create one unified world which would make more sense if it's artificial and created by Imu, but if it is natural, there's some interesting implications about the Lunarians then, cause they used to live up there, and they'd be much higher up relative to the ground than it is now. Actually, it might be more interesting if it isn't natural, cause that'd mean if the Lunarians lived there, they had to do so after the founding of the WG and the Void Century, meaning they might've been one of the allied kingdoms at first, then possibly betrayed afterwards

Either way, I'm glad we're getting an actual lore dump instead of just a tease. And no break next week, that's always good


I'm loving lore dump. It's slightly underwhelming after waiting through the bye weeks, but it fits crazy well into the narrative. This arc will read really well when it's completed.

But...I'm a little nervous about some of this art. A few panels were scratchy even after all the breaks. Anyway some spoilerish thoughts

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I'm curious how this ties into Gol D Roger's crew being too early. The sea level rise would fit, but I'm not sure how they'd be able to predict when the ancient weapons would be used. The ongoing war has gotta include the Will of D and the middle initial D people. I'm really optimistic for more info next chapter.

I love seeing characters around the world, but the Foxy Pirates and Fake Strawhats were not who I expected to see :lol:

Carrot, as leader of Zou, hasn't really set in for me. Seeing Nami's village was nice, and the best part of Wano panels is how often characters are pictured snacking.

I thought Basil Hawkins died, but that looks like him in the bar.

Oh and lastly, 200 METERS!? Imu nuked an island and the sea only rose ONE meter.
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I'm curious how this ties into Gol D Roger's crew being too early. The sea level rise would fit, but I'm not sure how they'd be able to predict when the ancient weapons would be used. The ongoing war has gotta include the Will of D and the middle initial D people. I'm really optimistic for more info next chapter.

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I think it's gonna depend on how specific Oda wants to get with prophecies

Like, I know Sharley told Roger when Poseidon was gonna be born, and she had the prediction that (at some point) Luffy will destroy Fishman Island, but I always took the prophesizing of One Piece to be more in the vague area instead of specifics. So rather than "this person will be born at this moment who will be the reincarnation of JoyBoy", it's the theme of inherited will. Luffy isn't special because he's a reincarnation, the fruit didn't make him who he is, it's the other way around, the fruit was drawn to him because he had a similar mindset as JoyBoy. More along the lines of "someone someday will come along with the values of freedom and the willpower to make it happen", so hopefully Roger just knew that person hadn't shown up yet, and this isn't some grand scheme where the whole plot was orchestrated specifically to turn Luffy into JoyBoy (looking at you, Naruto and Bleach). Just cause I'm not a big fan of Chosen One narratives, it feels kinda cheap to me.
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MrDollarBills wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Yeah so I ended getting getting spoiled for Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 261 and my god. This series is vile :lol: Gege Akutami is creative, I'll say that much.

I really don't have much of an opinion until i actually read the official release but based on the reactions on reddit, the discourse surrounding this manga is going to be peak toxicity until it concludes.


I will say this, the closest thing I could remember to all of this was the Death of Superman.... However, JJK took that concept and said what is Doomsday killed Superman at the beginning of the fight and the rest of the league had to stop Doomsday without him. I can't remember a situation where the heroes were so desperate for so long. Even Demon Slayers last arc was more hopeful than this. Its frustrating, I feel like all the fans are justified a certain amount of justified hate right now, but all of this might be epic when its finally animated. There is a legit chance that there is a whole season dedicated to this fight, and it might be must watch TV depending on if Gege can stick the landing.

Also, I am not a academic but there are a lot of thematic similarities between JJK/Demonslayer/MHA and I sometime wonder what does it say about the viewers that the heroes in all three series that the heroes are in these downbad situation where there is no type of victory but a pyrrhic victory.


That's a really good comparison :o

I've been critical of the story because the hopelessness is honestly draining to read. The better chapters of this story arc in JJK (Inhuman Shinjuku Showdown) to me are when we actually see the protagonist fighting back and gaining ground.

Maybe this will read or be viewed better when the story is finished. But right now, it's brutal and I can understand why fans are dismayed. I love the series but I can only take so much despair, like you said, at least Demon Slayer gave you hope during the final arc because the sun was going to rise one way or another. This? I wouldn't be shocked if the ending was pure depression fuel.

I've been saying this for a while, but I think unintentionally this is the problem I have with JJK, where my expectations for it were that it'd be an evolution of the Shonen concept instead of just more of the same but with a fresh coat of paint

It's not the hopelessness or depression, quite honestly there've been fewer deaths than expected so far in the final arc, I think what it is is Gege hiding information from the audience and then pulling it out of seemingly nowhere just like traditional Shonen do, and that's a big peeve of mine with them is, when you do that constantly, it's not good twists, it just feels like asspulls for the sake of continuing the story. You need to set stuff up, even if some of the audience can guess it, it works. But Sukuna's ability to just say "no, f*ck you, the rules don't apply to me" is just kinda old at this point

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Like, frankly with the information given in the past few chapters, Sukuna should be weak enough that even though he isn't Gojo, Yuta should be able to wipe the floor with him with Six Eyes and Limitless. Dude was getting stressed by Yuji, but because technically Yuji is the main character, Yuta can't beat him. And that's kind of the problem is, the story feels internally inconsistent because of out of universe reasons. Things that should work don't because the real world needs the story to go in another direction, like how they set up what Sukuna needs to do for certain moves, then just throw that out the window because he needs to pull out a World Dismantle or a Malevolent Shrine or else he's toast


It's not as bad, but it's kind of like GoT at this point where instead of feeling like a story naturally reaching a conclusion, the author is warping the story to get to the point he wants it to regardless of how it works. That's why instead of dread or hype when Sukuna pulls out another Binding Vow, it's just met with annoyance. It'll probably be better on a reread, but as a weekly series, it's missing the mark

With that said, it is one of two series I do read the scans for instead of waiting for the official release, so I can't say it's bad (like I completely stopped reading Boruto, that sh*t is so ass, there's no comparison), it's just not as great as it set itself up to be.
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Post#1775 » by MrDollarBills » Fri May 24, 2024 4:43 pm

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I will say this, the closest thing I could remember to all of this was the Death of Superman.... However, JJK took that concept and said what is Doomsday killed Superman at the beginning of the fight and the rest of the league had to stop Doomsday without him. I can't remember a situation where the heroes were so desperate for so long. Even Demon Slayers last arc was more hopeful than this. Its frustrating, I feel like all the fans are justified a certain amount of justified hate right now, but all of this might be epic when its finally animated. There is a legit chance that there is a whole season dedicated to this fight, and it might be must watch TV depending on if Gege can stick the landing.

Also, I am not a academic but there are a lot of thematic similarities between JJK/Demonslayer/MHA and I sometime wonder what does it say about the viewers that the heroes in all three series that the heroes are in these downbad situation where there is no type of victory but a pyrrhic victory.


That's a really good comparison :o

I've been critical of the story because the hopelessness is honestly draining to read. The better chapters of this story arc in JJK (Inhuman Shinjuku Showdown) to me are when we actually see the protagonist fighting back and gaining ground.

Maybe this will read or be viewed better when the story is finished. But right now, it's brutal and I can understand why fans are dismayed. I love the series but I can only take so much despair, like you said, at least Demon Slayer gave you hope during the final arc because the sun was going to rise one way or another. This? I wouldn't be shocked if the ending was pure depression fuel.

I've been saying this for a while, but I think unintentionally this is the problem I have with JJK, where my expectations for it were that it'd be an evolution of the Shonen concept instead of just more of the same but with a fresh coat of paint

It's not the hopelessness or depression, quite honestly there've been fewer deaths than expected so far in the final arc, I think what it is is Gege hiding information from the audience and then pulling it out of seemingly nowhere just like traditional Shonen do, and that's a big peeve of mine with them is, when you do that constantly, it's not good twists, it just feels like asspulls for the sake of continuing the story. You need to set stuff up, even if some of the audience can guess it, it works. But Sukuna's ability to just say "no, f*ck you, the rules don't apply to me" is just kinda old at this point

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Like, frankly with the information given in the past few chapters, Sukuna should be weak enough that even though he isn't Gojo, Yuta should be able to wipe the floor with him with Six Eyes and Limitless. Dude was getting stressed by Yuji, but because technically Yuji is the main character, Yuta can't beat him. And that's kind of the problem is, the story feels internally inconsistent because of out of universe reasons. Things that should work don't because the real world needs the story to go in another direction, like how they set up what Sukuna needs to do for certain moves, then just throw that out the window because he needs to pull out a World Dismantle or a Malevolent Shrine or else he's toast


It's not as bad, but it's kind of like GoT at this point where instead of feeling like a story naturally reaching a conclusion, the author is warping the story to get to the point he wants it to regardless of how it works. That's why instead of dread or hype when Sukuna pulls out another Binding Vow, it's just met with annoyance. It'll probably be better on a reread, but as a weekly series, it's missing the mark

With that said, it is one of two series I do read the scans for instead of waiting for the official release, so I can't say it's bad (like I completely stopped reading Boruto, that sh*t is so ass, there's no comparison), it's just not as great as it set itself up to be.


Yeah it is absolutely annoying. Like Yuji hit Sukuna with multiple Black flashes and dude is still pulling domains and binding vows out of his ass.

I haven't read the latest chapter in full but

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I saw that Sukuna, in the midst of having his heart almost ripped out of his chest, casually pushes a Black flash powered up Yuji aside easily to go gush over Yuta in Gojo's corpse. Like huh?


I fully expect another ass pull here and a good old "ah, I haven't used this technique since the Heian era" remark.
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Post#1776 » by MrDollarBills » Fri May 24, 2024 4:44 pm

I can't tell whether Sukuna is trolling Yuji or getting his ass kicked. It's not a good thing tbh

JJK is has gone from new age hit to highly flawed as it limps to the finish.
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Post#1777 » by MrDollarBills » Fri May 24, 2024 4:49 pm

Sorry for the scattered comments I'm multitasking lol

I feel like Nobara's death was the start of the slippage. It was never fully explained if she was even dead. Like, I know Gege only created her at the request of his editor to add a woman to the main team but the way that was handled was so messy and he just dropped the subject soon after the start of the culling games.
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Post#1778 » by DOT » Fri May 24, 2024 4:53 pm

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That's a really good comparison :o

I've been critical of the story because the hopelessness is honestly draining to read. The better chapters of this story arc in JJK (Inhuman Shinjuku Showdown) to me are when we actually see the protagonist fighting back and gaining ground.

Maybe this will read or be viewed better when the story is finished. But right now, it's brutal and I can understand why fans are dismayed. I love the series but I can only take so much despair, like you said, at least Demon Slayer gave you hope during the final arc because the sun was going to rise one way or another. This? I wouldn't be shocked if the ending was pure depression fuel.

I've been saying this for a while, but I think unintentionally this is the problem I have with JJK, where my expectations for it were that it'd be an evolution of the Shonen concept instead of just more of the same but with a fresh coat of paint

It's not the hopelessness or depression, quite honestly there've been fewer deaths than expected so far in the final arc, I think what it is is Gege hiding information from the audience and then pulling it out of seemingly nowhere just like traditional Shonen do, and that's a big peeve of mine with them is, when you do that constantly, it's not good twists, it just feels like asspulls for the sake of continuing the story. You need to set stuff up, even if some of the audience can guess it, it works. But Sukuna's ability to just say "no, f*ck you, the rules don't apply to me" is just kinda old at this point

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Like, frankly with the information given in the past few chapters, Sukuna should be weak enough that even though he isn't Gojo, Yuta should be able to wipe the floor with him with Six Eyes and Limitless. Dude was getting stressed by Yuji, but because technically Yuji is the main character, Yuta can't beat him. And that's kind of the problem is, the story feels internally inconsistent because of out of universe reasons. Things that should work don't because the real world needs the story to go in another direction, like how they set up what Sukuna needs to do for certain moves, then just throw that out the window because he needs to pull out a World Dismantle or a Malevolent Shrine or else he's toast


It's not as bad, but it's kind of like GoT at this point where instead of feeling like a story naturally reaching a conclusion, the author is warping the story to get to the point he wants it to regardless of how it works. That's why instead of dread or hype when Sukuna pulls out another Binding Vow, it's just met with annoyance. It'll probably be better on a reread, but as a weekly series, it's missing the mark

With that said, it is one of two series I do read the scans for instead of waiting for the official release, so I can't say it's bad (like I completely stopped reading Boruto, that sh*t is so ass, there's no comparison), it's just not as great as it set itself up to be.


Yeah it is absolutely annoying. Like Yuji hit Sukuna with multiple Black flashes and dude is still pulling domains and binding vows out of his ass.

I haven't read the latest chapter in full but

Spoiler:
I saw that Sukuna, in the midst of having his heart almost ripped out of his chest, casually pushes a Black flash powered up Yuji aside easily to go gush over Yuta in Gojo's corpse. Like huh?


I fully expect another ass pull here and a good old "ah, I haven't used this technique since the Heian era" remark.

Binding vows are a really cool concept, and a great addition to the power system

I think stuff like that, where you sacrifice one thing for an advantage in another way and then gear your fights around that advantage are part of what made JJK so special, the tactics of the fights. It's similar to how early Naruto was about strategy, using feints to get the edge on people

But Sukuna's binding vow spam is just getting ridiculous at this point, especially because none of them ever actually feel like a sacrifice. Like yeah, technically he's sacrificed some stuff but he's so overpowered on the base level that what he loses never actually functionally matters

Because it doesn't feel like adding twists to the fight, new circumstances for the heroes to figure out and overcome (for the most part, them figuring out his domain was weakened due to a binding vow and getting around that would be a good example), it just feels like him pulling out a "nuh uh" card any time he might lose. It'd be like if Superman was losing a fight and gave up his cold breath for a temporary power boost, like yeah technically he lost something, but functionally he doesn't need it so it's irrelevant.
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Post#1779 » by DOT » Fri May 24, 2024 4:55 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Sorry for the scattered comments I'm multitasking lol

I feel like Nobara's death was the start of the slippage. It was never fully explained if she was even dead. Like, I know Gege only created her at the request of his editor to add a woman to the main team but the way that was handled was so messy and he just dropped the subject soon after the start of the culling games.

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Post#1780 » by j4remi » Fri May 24, 2024 5:26 pm

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I'm curious how this ties into Gol D Roger's crew being too early. The sea level rise would fit, but I'm not sure how they'd be able to predict when the ancient weapons would be used. The ongoing war has gotta include the Will of D and the middle initial D people. I'm really optimistic for more info next chapter.

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I think it's gonna depend on how specific Oda wants to get with prophecies

Like, I know Sharley told Roger when Poseidon was gonna be born, and she had the prediction that (at some point) Luffy will destroy Fishman Island, but I always took the prophesizing of One Piece to be more in the vague area instead of specifics. So rather than "this person will be born at this moment who will be the reincarnation of JoyBoy", it's the theme of inherited will. Luffy isn't special because he's a reincarnation, the fruit didn't make him who he is, it's the other way around, the fruit was drawn to him because he had a similar mindset as JoyBoy. More along the lines of "someone someday will come along with the values of freedom and the willpower to make it happen", so hopefully Roger just knew that person hadn't shown up yet, and this isn't some grand scheme where the whole plot was orchestrated specifically to turn Luffy into JoyBoy (looking at you, Naruto and Bleach). Just cause I'm not a big fan of Chosen One narratives, it feels kinda cheap to me.


I generally agree. Most prophecies we've seen are vague, and come true in unexpected ways. But Oden and Toki had "20 years from now" pegged to the point Kaido was expecting JoyBoy. I definitely prefer ANYTHING but another "Chosen One" narrative, so I've been trying to figure out workarounds, but I'm shooting in the dark:

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- Maybe there's a "Joyboy" adjacent personality in every generation. Instead of being chose by destiny, the former "Joyboy" finds the next "Joyboy" and designates them with the hat. The hat lets other folks who are aware of the "ongoing war" know to help guide that person. It'd explain why Roger's crew is scattered at key points of the journey, just sorta hanging out. It might also go a ways to explaining the giant strawhat in Mariejoa.

The cool part about that is that instead of being "chosen by destiny," the former generation chooses their successor. The hat gets passed along, until some circumstance is fulfilled that allows that generation's "Joy Boy" to finally fulfill his promises.

- In terms of what circumstance could be counted on centuries into the future? I have three main possibilities, starting with something celestial. We've found out about what's buried below the current world. But there's still a lot of symbolism for the skies that we haven't fully explored (like the moon race that Enel discovered). But it's pure shots in the dark at this stage.

- Another option would be something Imu and the Gorosei must do to preserve their immortality. Imu's silhouette looks like a straight-up slug, and the Gorosei are in elderly-looking bodies, so maybe they're not immortal but living on extremely extended lifespans (like, Giants who can live around 400 years). 800 years is the marker for when Imu's at his/her weakest and needs to do something to restore his/her youth and powers.

- Finally, I'm still kinda hung up on Toki's ability to send stuff into the future. The last possibility is that Toki's predecessor sent something way into the future hoping to hide it from Imu and the Gorosei. Possibly by placing it somewhere that can't be reached for 800 years. Initially, I thought it'd be something like the stream that blasted Skypeia into the air. But it could be related to rising/lowering sea levels...or it'd explain why Saturn aimed to control Bonney, since she can age structures.

Idk, I'm admittedly fishing. But I hope a couple more reveals can help me piece it together better.
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