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Playoffs 2024 - WCF - G2 - Mavs @ Wolves (Friday., 8:30PMEST)

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Re: Playoffs 2024 - WCF - G2 - Mavs @ Wolves (Friday., 8:30PMEST) 

Post#21 » by dygaction » Fri May 24, 2024 12:58 am

Dirk wrote:Kidd spends half the season annoying everyone by blindly playing THJr. Then randomly starts inserting Hardy in the playoffs and THJr only played 10 mins.

Who replaced Kidd as head coach?

Hardy somehow is credited with 4 assists in 9 minutes.

This was the nice one.



He also gave Dwight Powell, who was the starting center for entire 18 games during last WCF run, a total of 15 min over 7 games.
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Post#22 » by ChipotleWest » Fri May 24, 2024 1:21 am

dygaction wrote:
Dirk wrote:Kidd spends half the season annoying everyone by blindly playing THJr. Then randomly starts inserting Hardy in the playoffs and THJr only played 10 mins.

Who replaced Kidd as head coach?

Hardy somehow is credited with 4 assists in 9 minutes.

This was the nice one.



He also gave Dwight Powell, who was the starting center for entire 18 games during last WCF run, a total of 15 min over 7 games.


I'm thinking that after we acquired Gafford the organization sat Powell down and told him he's pretty much out of the rotation. He's mostly been a towel waiver ever since.
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Post#23 » by BeiBeau » Fri May 24, 2024 3:58 am

I don’t buy this “oh the wolves played game 7 that’s why they were tired” the got 1 less day of rest then Dallas and slept in their own beds.
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Post#24 » by Mavrelous » Fri May 24, 2024 6:29 am

BeiBeau wrote:I don’t buy this “oh the wolves played game 7 that’s why they were tired” the got 1 less day of rest then Dallas and slept in their own beds.

Yes, it's a stupid narrative, Mavs also played 12 PO games, Wolves played 11, there was no rest advantage for the Mavs.
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Post#25 » by Teffer10 » Fri May 24, 2024 6:35 am

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dygaction wrote:
Dirk wrote:Kidd spends half the season annoying everyone by blindly playing THJr. Then randomly starts inserting Hardy in the playoffs and THJr only played 10 mins.

Who replaced Kidd as head coach?

Hardy somehow is credited with 4 assists in 9 minutes.

This was the nice one.



He also gave Dwight Powell, who was the starting center for entire 18 games during last WCF run, a total of 15 min over 7 games.


I'm thinking that after we acquired Gafford the organization sat Powell down and told him he's pretty much out of the rotation. He's mostly been a towel waiver ever since.

As much complaining about DP as I've done on this board, I love having Powell on this team in that role.
If Gaff or Lively go down for a game or two, Powell is a pretty nice insurance piece to spell the other for 12mins.
Great attitude and lockeroom guy eith experience and does have decent chemistry with Luka.

I've always questioned and complained about the role, not the person or player.

Josh is in that same category to me but keeping fingers crossed we dont lose DJJ or PJ because we'd pretty much be done.
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Post#26 » by Teffer10 » Fri May 24, 2024 6:44 am

Just occured to me in 2006 we had a 3-headed 3-D monster at the center position (Dampier, Diop, DJ) and now we have one this year (Daniel, Derek, Dwight).
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Post#27 » by dygaction » Fri May 24, 2024 7:18 am

Should Hardy take some more of Josh's time?

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Post#28 » by Mavrelous » Fri May 24, 2024 7:33 am

Pre season was 7.5 months ago, 1st game was demoralizing, we were having 2nd thoughts about the high hopes of the off season, nothing shows the massive improvement like this Lively video from now and then
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Post#29 » by Dirk » Fri May 24, 2024 8:29 am

dygaction wrote:
Dirk wrote:Kidd spends half the season annoying everyone by blindly playing THJr. Then randomly starts inserting Hardy in the playoffs and THJr only played 10 mins.

Who replaced Kidd as head coach?

Hardy somehow is credited with 4 assists in 9 minutes.

This was the nice one.



He also gave Dwight Powell, who was the starting center for entire 18 games during last WCF run, a total of 15 min over 7 games.


And in the "hack a Lively" game... he only briefly took him out.
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Post#30 » by Bob8 » Fri May 24, 2024 9:35 am

dygaction wrote:Should Hardy take some more of Josh's time?

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No, those minutes should normally go to Exum, but he's unfortunately totally lost too. Kidd should just forbid Josh to do anything else than standing in the corner, if he gets the ball by chance just stop and make simple pass to the closest teammate. No ball handling and simple passing should apply to DJJ and Gafford to.
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Post#31 » by Archx » Fri May 24, 2024 10:17 am

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BeiBeau wrote:I don’t buy this “oh the wolves played game 7 that’s why they were tired” the got 1 less day of rest then Dallas and slept in their own beds.

Yes, it's a stupid narrative, Mavs also played 12 PO games, Wolves played 11, there was no rest advantage for the Mavs.


After listening to Finch talk about G1, i felt like Wolves still think Mavs are some small team who have no business being in the WCF. He's talking like Wolves lost the game by themselves with no input of opposing team.

Worst thing is, he apparently can't comprehend if Mavs shot 3's at their normal averages his team would lost by 20 lol....

PJ locking down ANT like he did to Wemby, keep doing that and Mavs chances to winning the series will skyrocket. ANT can go off, doesn't matter, just don't let McDaniels and Kyle Anderson score so much. After seeing G1 i actually think PJ on KAT could be the X factor.
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Post#32 » by Teffer10 » Fri May 24, 2024 10:20 am

We have such solid starters and a very shaky bench outside of Lively.
How screwed would we be if we lose one of the starters other than maybe Gafford?

That's gotta get fixed in the off season.
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Post#33 » by Bob8 » Fri May 24, 2024 10:52 am

Archx wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:I don’t buy this “oh the wolves played game 7 that’s why they were tired” the got 1 less day of rest then Dallas and slept in their own beds.

Yes, it's a stupid narrative, Mavs also played 12 PO games, Wolves played 11, there was no rest advantage for the Mavs.


After listening to Finch talk about G1, i felt like Wolves still think Mavs are some small team who have no business being in the WCF. He's talking like Wolves lost the game by themselves with no input of opposing team.

Worst thing is, he apparently can't comprehend if Mavs shot 3's at their normal averages his team would lost by 20 lol....



All that is very good news for Mavs.
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Post#34 » by Darren » Fri May 24, 2024 11:02 am

ChipotleWest wrote:
dygaction wrote:
Dirk wrote:Kidd spends half the season annoying everyone by blindly playing THJr. Then randomly starts inserting Hardy in the playoffs and THJr only played 10 mins.

Who replaced Kidd as head coach?

Hardy somehow is credited with 4 assists in 9 minutes.

This was the nice one.



He also gave Dwight Powell, who was the starting center for entire 18 games during last WCF run, a total of 15 min over 7 games.


I'm thinking that after we acquired Gafford the organization sat Powell down and told him he's pretty much out of the rotation. He's mostly been a towel waiver ever since.
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dygaction wrote:Should Hardy take some more of Josh's time?

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No, those minutes should normally go to Exum, but he's unfortunately totally lost too. Kidd should just forbid Josh to do anything else than standing in the corner, if he gets the ball by chance just stop and make simple pass to the closest teammate. No ball handling and simple passing should apply to DJJ and Gafford to.


Josh Green is playing good defense. But yes, there are quite some rookie mistakes. However, this video shows the strength of Green. 9 times out of 10 time, you score or draw a foul. If you can lead out like that, Minny could not bully you on board nor setting up defense they want. Bare in mind that Minny only has one McDaniels, Edwards and Gobert, taking anyone from the mix, it's like letting a fire on their backyard.

Meanwhile, Hardy is fearless with significant leap in playmaking and defense. I agree to Hardy to get more minutes.
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Post#35 » by daoneandonly » Fri May 24, 2024 11:08 am

dygaction wrote:Should Hardy take some more of Josh's time?

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I think it should be split between Hardy and OMax. I mean look at those careless and lets be honest stupid plays, could Omax do any worse? Let him get some burn, learn the ropes, and see what eh has. He cant be worse than what we saw from Green.
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Post#37 » by Teffer10 » Fri May 24, 2024 11:59 am

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dygaction wrote:Should Hardy take some more of Josh's time?

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I think it should be split between Hardy and OMax. I mean look at those careless and lets be honest stupid plays, could Omax do any worse? Let him get some burn, learn the ropes, and see what eh has. He cant be worse than what we saw from Green.

I think OMax is a far reach, but Lawson might be an option.
Lawson did get some meaningful burn with the team this season and he appeared to be fairly productive.
I've been saying for quite some time that Lawson can do the things we need Green to do and probably better. He's got to be one of the fastest guys in the league and has great lateral quickness. Great on fast breaks and disciplined in the half court game knowing his specific role.
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Post#38 » by daoneandonly » Fri May 24, 2024 12:16 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
dygaction wrote:Should Hardy take some more of Josh's time?

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I think it should be split between Hardy and OMax. I mean look at those careless and lets be honest stupid plays, could Omax do any worse? Let him get some burn, learn the ropes, and see what eh has. He cant be worse than what we saw from Green.

I think OMax is a far reach, but Lawson might be an option.
Lawson did get some meaningful burn with the team this season and he appeared to be fairly productive.
I've been saying for quite some time that Lawson can do the things we need Green to do and probably better. He's got to be one of the fastest guys in the league and has great lateral quickness. Great on fast breaks and disciplined in the half court game knowing his specific role.


Yea id be ok with that, completely forgot about him. I think Kidd should seriously look into splitting Green's minutes between Hardy and Lawson. Green could have easily cost us the game the other day. Missed dunk was a 5 point swing since they got a 3 right after, and then the inept foul at the end (not to mention other things mentioned above). How could it hurt giving AJ some of that time instead?
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Post#39 » by Bob8 » Fri May 24, 2024 12:37 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
dygaction wrote:Should Hardy take some more of Josh's time?

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I think it should be split between Hardy and OMax. I mean look at those careless and lets be honest stupid plays, could Omax do any worse? Let him get some burn, learn the ropes, and see what eh has. He cant be worse than what we saw from Green.

I think OMax is a far reach, but Lawson might be an option.
Lawson did get some meaningful burn with the team this season and he appeared to be fairly productive.
I've been saying for quite some time that Lawson can do the things we need Green to do and probably better. He's got to be one of the fastest guys in the league and has great lateral quickness. Great on fast breaks and disciplined in the half court game knowing his specific role.


Kidd won't change rotation anymore, unless injuries force him to.
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Post#40 » by daoneandonly » Fri May 24, 2024 1:18 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
I think it should be split between Hardy and OMax. I mean look at those careless and lets be honest stupid plays, could Omax do any worse? Let him get some burn, learn the ropes, and see what eh has. He cant be worse than what we saw from Green.

I think OMax is a far reach, but Lawson might be an option.
Lawson did get some meaningful burn with the team this season and he appeared to be fairly productive.
I've been saying for quite some time that Lawson can do the things we need Green to do and probably better. He's got to be one of the fastest guys in the league and has great lateral quickness. Great on fast breaks and disciplined in the half court game knowing his specific role.


Kidd won't change rotation anymore, unless injuries force him to.


Every coach should try and pivot and adjust when things dont work or someone is a detriment to the team. Green is more of a liability than asset in most cases.
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