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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#141 » by Rich4114 » Fri May 24, 2024 2:13 pm

JMAC3 wrote:I am sure he will get paid more than he deserves and in a year will be one of the worst contracts in the NBA.
He is averaging 8/8 in 30 mpg in the playoffs.

I would rather target someone who gives us something different like Valanciunas. He is older so maybe a 1/15 or 2/24 type of deal and he stretches the floor a little bit.


Landing Val would be the best case scenario in terms of fortifying our C rotation. I don't expect us to make that happen, which is why I've been pushing on the Clingan / Edey thing in the draft. But Val would be option 1A for me. Hartenstein probably does get over-paid but the cap going up softens that a bit, I'd happily take him too even if we had to over-pay a little.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#142 » by JMAC3 » Fri May 24, 2024 2:31 pm

Instead of being the team that overpays Hartenstein too, I would rather take a chance on Goga being the next Hartenstein and give him a 2/16 contract that Hartenstein was just on.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#143 » by Rays Pompadour » Fri May 24, 2024 5:12 pm

Back when, I loved the fit Gordon Hayward had with the Hornets. The salary was out of whack and he was hurt too often, but I loved the fit. My view of that hasn't changed.

Time and injury has diminished Hayward to a role player, not a core piece. His next contract will reflect this new reality. There might be some team willing to pay starter money, but I seriously doubt it. He's not been a true contributor on a starting unit for, what, three years? And that makes him a good fit for a second unit. Why not back here in Charlotte?

Hayward still projects as a plus athlete with exceptional handles and reliable mid-range shot. His passing is underrated and, in shorter bursts, is an able defender and rebounder. Older players with families love it in Charlotte. Maybe it's a good fit both ways.

A three year-deal in the $42M range, with third year a TO, high be a fair deal. This is a gamble deal on his health, but remains below the MLE.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#144 » by JustBuzzin » Fri May 24, 2024 5:15 pm

Rays Pompadour wrote:Back when, I loved the fit Gordon Hayward had with the Hornets. The salary was out of whack and he was hurt too often, but I loved the fit. My view of that hasn't changed.

Time and injury has diminished Hayward to a role player, not a core piece. His next contract will reflect this new reality. There might be some team willing to pay starter money, but I seriously doubt it. He's not been a true contributor on a starting unit for, what, three years? And that makes him a good fit for a second unit. Why not back here in Charlotte?

Hayward still projects as a plus athlete with exceptional handles and reliable mid-range shot. His passing is underrated and, in shorter bursts, is an able defender and rebounder. Older players with families love it in Charlotte. Maybe it's a good fit both ways.

A three year-deal in the $42M range, with third year a TO, high be a fair deal. This is a gamble deal on his health, but remains below the MLE.

Ladies and Gentlemen we found Hayward's agent. :D
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#145 » by Rays Pompadour » Fri May 24, 2024 5:18 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
Rays Pompadour wrote:Back when, I loved the fit Gordon Hayward had with the Hornets. The salary was out of whack and he was hurt too often, but I loved the fit. My view of that hasn't changed.

Time and injury has diminished Hayward to a role player, not a core piece. His next contract will reflect this new reality. There might be some team willing to pay starter money, but I seriously doubt it. He's not been a true contributor on a starting unit for, what, three years? And that makes him a good fit for a second unit. Why not back here in Charlotte?

Hayward still projects as a plus athlete with exceptional handles and reliable mid-range shot. His passing is underrated and, in shorter bursts, is an able defender and rebounder. Older players with families love it in Charlotte. Maybe it's a good fit both ways.

A three year-deal in the $42M range, with third year a TO, high be a fair deal. This is a gamble deal on his health, but remains below the MLE.

Ladies and Gentlemen we found Hayward's agent. :D


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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#146 » by yosemiteben » Fri May 24, 2024 5:23 pm

Rays Pompadour wrote:He's not been a true contributor on a starting unit for, what, three years? And that makes him a good fit for a second unit. Why not back here in Charlotte?

Hayward still projects as a plus athlete with exceptional handles and reliable mid-range shot. His passing is underrated and, in shorter bursts, is an able defender and rebounder. Older players with families love it in Charlotte. Maybe it's a good fit both ways.

A three year-deal in the $42M range, with third year a TO, high be a fair deal. This is a gamble deal on his health, but remains below the MLE.

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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#147 » by Rays Pompadour » Fri May 24, 2024 5:32 pm

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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#148 » by LofJ » Fri May 24, 2024 6:07 pm

We could use someone with a good skill set like Hayward, but nah his days as a Hornet are over and done. Someone like Kyle Anderson though would be huge for this team.
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Post#149 » by JustBuzzin » Fri May 24, 2024 9:15 pm

We will sign Dlo in FA and you will love it!
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#150 » by SWedd523 » Fri May 24, 2024 9:57 pm

Rays Pompadour wrote:Back when, I loved the fit Gordon Hayward had with the Hornets. The salary was out of whack and he was hurt too often, but I loved the fit. My view of that hasn't changed.

Time and injury has diminished Hayward to a role player, not a core piece. His next contract will reflect this new reality. There might be some team willing to pay starter money, but I seriously doubt it. He's not been a true contributor on a starting unit for, what, three years? And that makes him a good fit for a second unit. Why not back here in Charlotte?

Hayward still projects as a plus athlete with exceptional handles and reliable mid-range shot. His passing is underrated and, in shorter bursts, is an able defender and rebounder. Older players with families love it in Charlotte. Maybe it's a good fit both ways.

A three year-deal in the $42M range, with third year a TO, high be a fair deal. This is a gamble deal on his health, but remains below the MLE.

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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#151 » by MPM » Fri May 24, 2024 10:16 pm

Hayward? We talkin’ about Hayward?! Wow. Poku gives us more.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#152 » by JustBuzzin » Fri May 24, 2024 10:16 pm

SWedd523 wrote:
Rays Pompadour wrote:Back when, I loved the fit Gordon Hayward had with the Hornets. The salary was out of whack and he was hurt too often, but I loved the fit. My view of that hasn't changed.

Time and injury has diminished Hayward to a role player, not a core piece. His next contract will reflect this new reality. There might be some team willing to pay starter money, but I seriously doubt it. He's not been a true contributor on a starting unit for, what, three years? And that makes him a good fit for a second unit. Why not back here in Charlotte?

Hayward still projects as a plus athlete with exceptional handles and reliable mid-range shot. His passing is underrated and, in shorter bursts, is an able defender and rebounder. Older players with families love it in Charlotte. Maybe it's a good fit both ways.

A three year-deal in the $42M range, with third year a TO, high be a fair deal. This is a gamble deal on his health, but remains below the MLE.

I know you aren't **** serious right now
Not sure if he was serious or not, but I laughed when he said a 3yr 42mil contract. Like bro overpaying for a washed injury prone player is cray cray! :lol:
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#153 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri May 24, 2024 11:37 pm

You guys serious about Hayward or you **** with me again
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#154 » by luciano-davidwesley » Sat May 25, 2024 5:35 am

Rays Pompadour wrote:Back when, I loved the fit Gordon Hayward had with the Hornets. The salary was out of whack and he was hurt too often, but I loved the fit. My view of that hasn't changed.

Time and injury has diminished Hayward to a role player, not a core piece. His next contract will reflect this new reality. There might be some team willing to pay starter money, but I seriously doubt it. He's not been a true contributor on a starting unit for, what, three years? And that makes him a good fit for a second unit. Why not back here in Charlotte?

Hayward still projects as a plus athlete with exceptional handles and reliable mid-range shot. His passing is underrated and, in shorter bursts, is an able defender and rebounder. Older players with families love it in Charlotte. Maybe it's a good fit both ways.

A three year-deal in the $42M range, with third year a TO, high be a fair deal. This is a gamble deal on his health, but remains below the MLE.


Lol dude has been awful and was out of OKC's playoff rotation. He's a vet min and even then I don't like his attitude and refusal to try to return from injury in a normal time frame.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#155 » by amcoolio » Sat May 25, 2024 6:33 am

He was cooked when he played for us early in the season, he looked so slow. Think its about joever for him
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#156 » by Rays Pompadour » Sat May 25, 2024 12:41 pm

SWedd523 wrote:
Rays Pompadour wrote:Back when, I loved the fit Gordon Hayward had with the Hornets. The salary was out of whack and he was hurt too often, but I loved the fit. My view of that hasn't changed.

Time and injury has diminished Hayward to a role player, not a core piece. His next contract will reflect this new reality. There might be some team willing to pay starter money, but I seriously doubt it. He's not been a true contributor on a starting unit for, what, three years? And that makes him a good fit for a second unit. Why not back here in Charlotte?

Hayward still projects as a plus athlete with exceptional handles and reliable mid-range shot. His passing is underrated and, in shorter bursts, is an able defender and rebounder. Older players with families love it in Charlotte. Maybe it's a good fit both ways.

A three year-deal in the $42M range, with third year a TO, high be a fair deal. This is a gamble deal on his health, but remains below the MLE.

I know you aren't **** serious right now


Tongue-in-cheek. I have a soft spot for old guys...being one myself. The contract amount was the joke, but not the idea of him back in Charlotte. Crack on him all you want, but Hayward has value and he won't come at the vet minimum. Moving on!
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#157 » by countryboi » Sat May 25, 2024 3:34 pm

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
Rays Pompadour wrote:Back when, I loved the fit Gordon Hayward had with the Hornets. The salary was out of whack and he was hurt too often, but I loved the fit. My view of that hasn't changed.

Time and injury has diminished Hayward to a role player, not a core piece. His next contract will reflect this new reality. There might be some team willing to pay starter money, but I seriously doubt it. He's not been a true contributor on a starting unit for, what, three years? And that makes him a good fit for a second unit. Why not back here in Charlotte?

Hayward still projects as a plus athlete with exceptional handles and reliable mid-range shot. His passing is underrated and, in shorter bursts, is an able defender and rebounder. Older players with families love it in Charlotte. Maybe it's a good fit both ways.

A three year-deal in the $42M range, with third year a TO, high be a fair deal. This is a gamble deal on his health, but remains below the MLE.


Lol dude has been awful and was out of OKC's playoff rotation. He's a vet min and even then I don't like his attitude and refusal to try to return from injury in a normal time frame.


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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#158 » by Goodecharlotte » Sat May 25, 2024 9:11 pm

Now hear me out people before you slate me.

With Lonzo's rehabing going well would anyone take a shot on him, he would defensively be our shut down guard and would with Lamelo be the best creative back court in the league.
But the question is what would you give up for him and what would the Bulls except. The Bulls may want to wash there hands of him and his 80 Mil contract, then if I know IF he comes back fully fit it might be a good contract.question though is what compensation would you be prepared to give up????
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#159 » by luciano-davidwesley » Sat May 25, 2024 9:26 pm

Goodecharlotte wrote:Now hear me out people before you slate me.

With Lonzo's rehabing going well would anyone take a shot on him, he would defensively be our shut down guard and would with Lamelo be the best creative back court in the league.
But the question is what would you give up for him and what would the Bulls except. The Bulls may want to wash there hands of him and his 80 Mil contract, then if I know IF he comes back fully fit it might be a good contract.question though is what compensation would you be prepared to give up????

While we are getting Gordon "sometimes you don't feel like playing" Hayward and Lonzo "bone on bone knee" Ball why don't we make a run at Ben "sore back" Simmons too? Put the icing on the cake by drafting Stephon "I'm a point guard and I cant shoot and wont work out for anyone other than SA" Castle at 6. Call it an offseason!
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#160 » by Goodecharlotte » Sat May 25, 2024 10:12 pm

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
Goodecharlotte wrote:Now hear me out people before you slate me.

With Lonzo's rehabing going well would anyone take a shot on him, he would defensively be our shut down guard and would with Lamelo be the best creative back court in the league.
But the question is what would you give up for him and what would the Bulls except. The Bulls may want to wash there hands of him and his 80 Mil contract, then if I know IF he comes back fully fit it might be a good contract.question though is what compensation would you be prepared to give up????

While we are getting Gordon "sometimes you don't feel like playing" Hayward and Lonzo "bone on bone knee" Ball why don't we make a run at Ben "sore back" Simmons too? Put the icing on the cake by drafting Stephon "I'm a point guard and I cant shoot and wont work out for anyone other than SA" Castle at 6. Call it an offseason!

He's not got bone on bone anymore, you need to do your research before you start making comments

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